tire recommendation for Ambrosio 19 Extra Elite (1980s) rim?

jwi-@pacifier.com

2005-07-03



I'll ditto Dan's remark. If it's tough to get a tire on a rim (any tire,

any rim), try a thinner rim strip. In extreme cases, a couple layers of

fiberglass-reinforced packing tape will work, but it tends to split over

the spoke holes.



Flat resistant tires are often tougher to install since their sidewalls

are stiffer, making it harder to flex the tire over the bead of the rim.



Newer rims usually have a deeper "well" in the middle. This makes it

easier to mount a tire, since you can push the bead to the

smaller-diameter center and create more "slack" in the bead.



Other Jeff





Dan Houghton wrote:

 MessageTry replacing the thick Velox rim liners with thinner nylon

webbing like Ritchey and others make.

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: Jeff Norville

   To: ob-@topica.com

   Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:07 PM

   Subject: [OBRA Chat] tire recommendation for Ambrosio 19 Extra Elite

   (1980s) rim?





   A friend is getting back on his Rossin after ... a couple of decades.



   We tried replacing his ancient, crunchy wire-bead Michelins (700 x 23)

   with Vittorias (700 x 23, Kevlar bead) today and no dice - they are

   TIGHT. Rims are Ambrosio 19 Extra Elite, fit my bike so must be 700s,

   with Campy hubs. I probably could force them on with enough steel

   levers, but I'd ruin at least one tube in the process - and flatting in

   the rain would be fatal...



   If anybody has a suggestion for a better rim/tire match than

   Ambrosio/Vittoria I'd appreciate it. I'm definitely going to recommend

   a flat-resistant tire if we don't find a better match.



   Thanks in advance,

   Jeff



   --

   Jeff Norville

   503.704.1993

   je-@jnorville.com







To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org



Dan Houghton

2005-07-01



This is a multi-part message in MIME format.



------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C57E88.A07CE980

Content-Type: text/plain;

charset="iso-8859-1"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit



MessageTry replacing the thick Velox rim liners with thinner nylon webbing like Ritchey and others make.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff Norville

To: ob-@topica.com

Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:07 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] tire recommendation for Ambrosio 19 Extra Elite (1980s) rim?





A friend is getting back on his Rossin after ... a couple of decades.



We tried replacing his ancient, crunchy wire-bead Michelins (700 x 23) with Vittorias (700 x 23, Kevlar bead) today and no dice - they are TIGHT. Rims are Ambrosio 19 Extra Elite, fit my bike so must be 700s, with Campy hubs. I probably could force them on with enough steel levers, but I'd ruin at least one tube in the process - and flatting in the rain would be fatal...



If anybody has a suggestion for a better rim/tire match than Ambrosio/Vittoria I'd appreciate it. I'm definitely going to recommend a flat-resistant tire if we don't find a better match.



Thanks in advance,

Jeff



--

Jeff Norville

503.704.1993

je-@jnorville.com







To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C57E88.A07CE980

Content-Type: text/html;

charset="iso-8859-1"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit



<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">

<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE>

<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=GENERATOR>

<STYLE></STYLE>

</HEAD>

<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>

<DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Try replacing the thick Velox rim liners with

thinner nylon webbing like Ritchey and others make.</FONT></DIV></DIV>

<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr

style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>

<DIV

style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>

<A title=jn-@sterlink.net href="mailto:jnorv-@sterlink.net">Jeff

Norville</A> </DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title-@topica.com

href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A> </DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 01, 2005 4:07 PM</DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] tire recommendation

for Ambrosio 19 Extra Elite (1980s) rim?</DIV>

<DIV><BR></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial size=2>A friend is

getting back on his Rossin after ... a couple of

decades.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial size=2>We tried

replacing his ancient, crunchy wire-bead Michelins (700 x 23) with Vittorias

(700 x 23, Kevlar bead) today and no dice - they are TIGHT.  Rims are

Ambrosio 19 Extra Elite, fit my bike so must be 700s, with Campy

hubs.  I probably could force them on with enough steel levers, but I'd

ruin at least one tube in the process - and flatting in the rain would be

fatal...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial size=2>If anybody has a

suggestion for a better rim/tire match than Ambrosio/Vittoria I'd appreciate

it.  I'm definitely going to recommend a flat-resistant tire if we don't

find a better match.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV align=left><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks

in advance,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV align=left><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial

size=2>Jeff</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>--<BR>Jeff

Norville<BR>503.704.1993<BR><A

href="mailto:je-@jnorville.com">je-@jnorville.com</A></FONT></DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV> </DIV><PRE>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>



------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C57E88.A07CE980--



je-@jnorville.com

2005-07-01



This is a multi-part message in MIME format.



------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C57E56.FAF62610

Content-Type: text/plain;

charset="us-ascii"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



A friend is getting back on his Rossin after ... a couple of decades.



We tried replacing his ancient, crunchy wire-bead Michelins (700 x 23) with

Vittorias (700 x 23, Kevlar bead) today and no dice - they are TIGHT. Rims

are Ambrosio 19 Extra Elite, fit my bike so must be 700s, with Campy hubs.

I probably could force them on with enough steel levers, but I'd ruin at

least one tube in the process - and flatting in the rain would be fatal...



If anybody has a suggestion for a better rim/tire match than

Ambrosio/Vittoria I'd appreciate it. I'm definitely going to recommend a

flat-resistant tire if we don't find a better match.



Thanks in advance,

Jeff



--

Jeff Norville

503.704.1993

je-@jnorville.com









------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C57E56.FAF62610

Content-Type: text/html;

charset="us-ascii"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit



<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">

<HTML><HEAD>

<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii">

<TITLE>Message</TITLE>



<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2668" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>

<BODY>

<DIV><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial size=2>A friend is getting

back on his Rossin after ... a couple of decades.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial size=2>We tried

replacing his ancient, crunchy wire-bead Michelins (700 x 23) with Vittorias

(700 x 23, Kevlar bead) today and no dice - they are TIGHT.  Rims are

Ambrosio 19 Extra Elite, fit my bike so must be 700s, with Campy

hubs.  I probably could force them on with enough steel levers, but I'd

ruin at least one tube in the process - and flatting in the rain would be

fatal...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial size=2>If anybody has a

suggestion for a better rim/tire match than Ambrosio/Vittoria I'd appreciate

it.  I'm definitely going to recommend a flat-resistant tire if we don't

find a better match.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV align=left><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks in

advance,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV align=left><SPAN class=213035522-01072005><FONT face=Arial

size=2>Jeff</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>--<BR>Jeff

Norville<BR>503.704.1993<BR><A

href="mailto:je-@jnorville.com">je-@jnorville.com</A></FONT></DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML>



------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C57E56.FAF62610--