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David Rosen

2005-08-02

First: Who gave you the right to call anyone on this list an "idiot"? Apparently most people on this list took your email the wrong way! Does that mean we are all idiots?

Second: Your email DID come across as being snobbish and boorish.

Third: What do you have against helping riders in general? You should realize how privileged you are to race and ride in a state that has an incredible support system. If that means we give back to riders who are not from here, then so be it.

Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: guinness-@aol.com

To: ob-@topica.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:00 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Autographed Tom Boonen helmet for sale to help rider go to Worl

for the idiots who took my e-mail the wrong way. And you know who you are.

I didn't insult noreene for her funding raising efforts or for supporting cycling. i never said "she was doing a bad thing"! I also didn't insult team rubicon. they are great guys and i enjoy racing against them.

I posed a question of why she runs a developmental team and very few of the riders are from the USA. She does great things for the LAF and cycling in general, and has the added benefit of fundraising dollars from three Nike employees. Fundraising dollars the rest of us do not have.

Our team, per our contract cannot support cyclists under the age of 25. They wrote the rules, we just follow them.

As far as our support and fundraising efforts, we also donate to the LAF. We do this by selling Jerseys and socks, with 100% of the profit supporting the Live Strong campaign.

David Klipper

Director, Guinness Cycling Team

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eri-@fusium.com

2005-08-02

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Dave Palmer

2005-08-02

Chris,

Sorry, but you're making this too easy. Pay attention here. I, Dave Palmer, sent the post about the raffle and the TT's, not Dave Klipper. Maybe it's small change to you, but I think $100 worth of raffle tickets for a good cause, is a decent contribution. Most of the racers I know have jobs and families, and can't attend every race we would like to. One of the reasons that I try to make all of the Estacada TT's is because of where the money goes. I don't condone what Dave wrote in his post, but I do take offense at you belittling my contribution to the local junior racing program. How about taking some of that $21 entry fee for each rider at the TT this weekend, and giving it to a good cause?

Dave "PALMER"

Guinness Cycling

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Bright

To: ob-@topica.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:12 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Autographed Tom Boonen helmet for sale to help rider go to Worl

Dear Dave Klipper, Director of the Guinness Cycling Team,



Let me see if I've got this straight:



1)       We are all misinterpreting the intent of your original e-mail and you have done nothing wrong,

2)       Your altruism in support of junior racing is that you bought a few raffle tickets in a fundraiser that Norrene organized (no irony there) and you generously attended "almost every" Estacada TT, and

3)       In the 'glass houses' category, because of the "rules" you're not allowed to support junior racers regardless of their country which (again, no irony here) was the original reason you took Norrene to task.



To paraphrase Abe Lincoln: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to send an e-mail and remove all doubt."



Over and out,

One of the Idiots





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Josh Wiggins

2005-08-02

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is totally wrong to have to link Tom Boonen who is a awesome person =20=

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Clipper started after the genuine email from Noreen to OBRA..

Maybe a stupid question Dave. Let's get this straight, your an =20

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Let me see if I=92ve got this straight:

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took Norrene to task.

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a fool than to send an e-mail and remove all doubt.=94

Over and out,

One of the Idiots

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Chris Bright

2005-08-02

Dear Dave Klipper, Director of the Guinness Cycling Team,

Let me see if I've got this straight:

1)       We are all misinterpreting the intent of your original e-mail

and you have done nothing wrong,

2)       Your altruism in support of junior racing is that you bought a

few raffle tickets in a fundraiser that Norrene organized (no irony

there) and you generously attended "almost every" Estacada TT, and

3)       In the 'glass houses' category, because of the "rules" you're

not allowed to support junior racers regardless of their country which

(again, no irony here) was the original reason you took Norrene to task.

To paraphrase Abe Lincoln: "Better to remain silent and be thought a

fool than to send an e-mail and remove all doubt."

Over and out,

One of the Idiots

Guinness-@aol.com

2005-08-02

for the idiots who took my e-mail the wrong way. And you know who you are.

I didn't insult noreene for her funding raising efforts or for supporting

cycling. i never said "she was doing a bad thing"! I also didn't insult team

rubicon. they are great guys and i enjoy racing against them.

I posed a question of why she runs a developmental team and very few of the

riders are from the USA. She does great things for the LAF and cycling in

general, and has the added benefit of fundraising dollars from three Nike

employees. Fundraising dollars the rest of us do not have.

Our team, per our contract cannot support cyclists under the age of 25.

They wrote the rules, we just follow them.

As far as our support and fundraising efforts, we also donate to the LAF.

We do this by selling Jerseys and socks, with 100% of the profit supporting

the Live Strong campaign.

David Klipper

Director, Guinness Cycling Team

Dave Palmer

2005-08-02

Re: [OBRA Chat] Autographed Tom Boonen helmet for sale to help rider go to WorlNorrene,

Well, since you asked, I donated money to your C.O.D.E/Rubicon Give Away in April. I assume that a portion of that went to help young riders. I think only 20% was to go to the LAF. I've also attended almost every Estacada TT, which according to the flier, helps fund quite a few young racers. "Mikkel Bossen, Rick Bossen, Ken Bossen, Patty Roper, Kayla Woolcock, Madison Chilenski, Jacob Chilenski, Ellie Bossen". I'm sure that many of our riders have supported Junior Racing in one way or another. I commend you for all that you do to promote racing, and to raise money for the LAF. Keep up the good work.

Sincerely,

Dave Palmer

Guinness Cycling

----- Original Message -----

From: Norrene Godfrey

To: guinness-@aol.com ; ob-@topica.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:26 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Autographed Tom Boonen helmet for sale to help rider go to Worl

Dave,

I support young athletes regardless if they are blue, red or pink.

Aaron saved his money last year so he could come to Oregon to race because he heard about what a great place this is.

Aaron also has been working hard to raise money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation, he leads our Monday night coffee rides, which encourages beginning cyclist to ride their bikes. Also, Aaron drops what he is doing when Candi needs him and help's officiating at an event (one's you have raced in, maybe you didn't see him turning lap cards).

Just for the record here is my U23 line up for 2005:

Dean Tracy born in Texas

Walker Starr born in Wisconsin USA and who is currently living in Oregon for the next 3 years to get a degree from PSU

Traci Caroll born in Hermiston Oregon

Eugene Checerine, born in the USA

Scott Allen, New Zealand

Aaron Tuckerman New Zealand

Now to continue on with your below mention statement. . . . . Let see, I have sent Traci Carroll to NORBA National series, sent Dean Tracy to U23 US road National, Walker Starr to US Road Nationals, helped out Mikkel Bossen with housing at superweek and take him when I can to events that our team goes to -oh and by the way, he is not even on Team Rubicon but I help him out. I still help out Solomon Woras who is not on Rubicon anymore. Rubicon picked up Craig Wilcox and Josh Kerhkof, last year because RMS folded ( I had no budget to do that, but did anyway)- they where left with out any $$ to go to U23 National and with out equipment to compete on. I paid for them out of my own pocket so they would have an opportunity to finish the season, both of them signed with Pro teams. Rubicon help's direct young junior riders to Fred Meyers, BBC and to Nathan Hobson's team as their programs are much better than we could ever put together.

How much have you and your Guinness team done to help young talented Northwest riders?

Norrene

On 8/2/05 11:50 AM, "guinness-@aol.com" <guinness-@aol.com> wrote:

 Not to start a fire, but why should we donate money to send new zealanders to worlds? What about our own US riders from right here in Oregon. Especially OBRA's juniors and U23's. Shouldn't they get support first to go to nat's and large events? What I don't understand is why Noreene spends so much time and money on non-US riders? There is alot of young talent here in the Pac Northwest that could benfit from team Rubicon.



 -----Original Message-----

 From: Norrene Godfrey <Norrene.-@nike.com>

 To: ob-@topica.com <ob-@topica.com>; Bike cafe <edi-@bikecafe.net>

 Cc: sweetpea <dgod-@mecnorthwest.com>; CarlH-@Freightliner.com <CarlH-@Freightliner.com>

 Sent: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 09:23:05 -0700

 Subject: [OBRA Chat] Autographed Tom Boonen helmet for sale to help rider go to Worlds

 Hi Obraland~

 I want to thank everyone for all the donations everyone has made to LAF

 and support in years pass for Team Rubicon. I and the riders on Team Rubicon

 really truly appreciate it.

 A week and a half ago, I just found out that one of our riders, Aaron

 Tuckerman was named to the New Zealand's U23 world Mt. Bike team. Aaron

 has been training hard this year and I want to do everything I can

 possibly do to get him there. So with that said, I have been saving a

 special raffle item for next year's Rubicon raffle and would like to

 offer it up now to help fund Aaron's airline ticket to Milan Italy

 ($1,400 USD).

 I have one authentic autographed Tom Boonen helmet generously donated by

 Lazer helmets to be auctioned off to the highest bidder( I have photos if

 anyone wants to see them). The money donated is tax deductible and 100% of

 all money donated will go directly to Aaron to help him get to worlds.

 If you are wondering why doesn't the New Zealand Federation help out? Well

 they are even a smaller federation than USA cycling, therefore we, Rubicon

 need to cover all expenses such as airfare, food, hotel, transportation

 and other miscellaneous items so Aaron can compete. This is a huge

 opportunity for Aaron and if any business's want to step up and make an

 offer on Boonen's helmet, we will gladly put your logo on Aaron's helmet.

 Thank you in advance for taking the time to consider my request. Auction

 ends August 6th, 2005. Please send bids to noreneg-@comcast.net <mailto:norenegodfrey%40comcast.net> or

 call 503-806-2215.

 Cheers

 Norrene

 Team Rubicon

 Norrene Godfrey

 Senior PA

 Nike US Apparel

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Sal-@bicyclinghub.com

2005-08-02

I think this horse is already dead. Please don't beat it anymore.

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Not that I want to start a fire either, but what a piss ant thing to say. Why contribute to making the world an even more cynical place by taking something good and charitable and belittling it? It doesn?t reflect well on you or the Guiness Cycling team. What would reflect well is an apology.

Chris Bright

---------------------------------

From: guinness-@aol.com [mailto:guinness-@aol.com]

Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:50 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Autographed Tom Boonen helmet for sale to help rider go to Worl

Not to start a fire, but why should we donate money to send new zealanders to worlds? What about our own US riders from right here in Oregon. Especially OBRA's juniors and U23's. Shouldn't they get support first to go to nat's and large events? What I don't understand is why Noreene spends so much time and money on non-US riders? There is alot of young talent here in the Pac Northwest that could benfit from team Rubicon.

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Sent: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 09:23:05 -0700

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Autographed Tom Boonen helmet for sale to help rider go to Worlds

Hi Obraland~

I want to thank everyone for all the donations everyone has made to LAF

and support in years pass for Team Rubicon. I and the riders on Team Rubicon

really truly appreciate it.

A week and a half ago, I just found out that one of our riders, Aaron

Tuckerman was named to the New Zealand's U23 world Mt. Bike team. Aaron

has been training hard this year and I want to do everything I can

possibly do to get him there. So with that said, I have been saving a

special raffle item for next year's Rubicon raffle and would like to

offer it up now to help fund Aaron's airline ticket to Milan Italy

($1,400 USD).

I have one authentic autographed Tom Boonen helmet generously donated by

Lazer helmets to be auctioned off to the highest bidder( I have photos if

anyone wants to see them). The money donated is tax deductible and 100% of

all money donated will go directly to Aaron to help him get to worlds.

If you are wondering why doesn't the New Zealand Federation help out? Well

they are even a smaller federation than USA cycling, therefore we, Rubicon

need to cover all expenses such as airfare, food, hotel, transportation

and other miscellaneous items so Aaron can compete. This is a huge

opportunity for Aaron and if any business's want to step up and make an

offer on Boonen's helmet, we will gladly put your logo on Aaron's helmet.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to consider my request. Auction

ends August 6th, 2005. Please send bids to noreneg-@comcast.net or

call 503-806-2215.

Cheers

Norrene

Team Rubicon

Norrene Godfrey

Senior PA

Nike US Apparel

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Not that I want to start a fire either, but what a piss ant thing to

say. Why contribute to making the world an even more cynical place by

taking something good and charitable and belittling it? It doesn't

reflect well on you or the Guiness Cycling team. What would reflect

well is an apology.

Chris Bright

________________________________

From: guinness-@aol.com [mailto:guinness-@aol.com]

Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:50 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Autographed Tom Boonen helmet for sale to help

rider go to Worl

Not to start a fire, but why should we donate money to send new

zealanders to worlds? What about our own US riders from right here in

Oregon. Especially OBRA's juniors and U23's. Shouldn't they get

support first to go to nat's and large events? What I don't understand

is why Noreene spends so much time and money on non-US riders? There is

alot of young talent here in the Pac Northwest that could benfit from

team Rubicon.

-----Original Message-----

From: Norrene Godfrey <Norrene.-@nike.com>

To: ob-@topica.com <ob-@topica.com>; Bike cafe <edi-@bikecafe.net>

Cc: sweetpea <dgod-@mecnorthwest.com>; CarlH-@Freightliner.com

<CarlH-@Freightliner.com>

Sent: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 09:23:05 -0700

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Autographed Tom Boonen helmet for sale to help

rider go to Worlds

Hi Obraland~

I want to thank everyone for all the donations everyone has made to LAF

and support in years pass for Team Rubicon. I and the riders on Team

Rubicon

really truly appreciate it.

A week and a half ago, I just found out that one of our riders, Aaron

Tuckerman was named to the New Zealand's U23 world Mt. Bike team. Aaron

has been training hard this year and I want to do everything I can

possibly do to get him there. So with that said, I have been saving a

special raffle item for next year's Rubicon raffle and would like to

offer it up now to help fund Aaron's airline ticket to Milan Italy

($1,400 USD).

I have one authentic autographed Tom Boonen helmet generously donated by

Lazer helmets to be auctioned off to the highest bidder( I have photos

if

anyone wants to see them). The money donated is tax deductible and 100%

of

all money donated will go directly to Aaron to help him get to worlds.

If you are wondering why doesn't the New Zealand Federation help out?

Well

they are even a smaller federation than USA cycling, therefore we,

Rubicon

need to cover all expenses such as airfare, food, hotel, transportation

and other miscellaneous items so Aaron can compete. This is a huge

opportunity for Aaron and if any business's want to step up and make an

offer on Boonen's helmet, we will gladly put your logo on Aaron's

helmet.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to consider my request. Auction

ends August 6th, 2005. Please send bids to noreneg-@comcast.net

<mailto:norenegodfrey%40comcast.net> or

call 503-806-2215.

Cheers

Norrene

Team Rubicon

Norrene Godfrey

Senior PA

Nike US Apparel

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Clark Ritchie

2005-08-02

I'd like to see the inside of the helmet, specially

how it accommodates the Euro faux hawk Belgium mullet.

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Serrurier, Peter

2005-08-02

Not intending to add any fuel to the fire, but I suspect that winning the bid for Tom Boonen's autograph, particularly if the money is earmarked for a specific individual, even if your intent is highly charitable, is not tax deductible. But, seek the advice of someone qualified if it matters.

-----Original Message-----

From: guinness-@aol.com [mailto:guinness-@aol.com]

Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:50 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Autographed Tom Boonen helmet for sale to help rider go to Worl

Not to start a fire, but why should we donate money to send new zealanders to worlds? What about our own US riders from right here in Oregon. Especially OBRA's juniors and U23's. Shouldn't they get support first to go to nat's and large events? What I don't understand is why Noreene spends so much time and money on non-US riders? There is alot of young talent here in the Pac Northwest that could benfit from team Rubicon.

-----Original Message-----

From: Norrene Godfrey <Norrene.-@nike.com>

To: ob-@topica.com <ob-@topica.com>; Bike cafe <edi-@bikecafe.net>

Cc: sweetpea <dgod-@mecnorthwest.com>; CarlH-@Freightliner.com <CarlH-@Freightliner.com>

Sent: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 09:23:05 -0700

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Autographed Tom Boonen helmet for sale to help rider go to Worlds

Hi Obraland~

I want to thank everyone for all the donations everyone has made to LAF

and support in years pass for Team Rubicon. I and the riders on Team Rubicon

really truly appreciate it.

A week and a half ago, I just found out that one of our riders, Aaron

Tuckerman was named to the New Zealand's U23 world Mt. Bike team. Aaron

has been training hard this year and I want to do everything I can

possibly do to get him there. So with that said, I have been saving a

special raffle item for next year's Rubicon raffle and would like to

offer it up now to help fund Aaron's airline ticket to Milan Italy

($1,400 USD).

I have one authentic autographed Tom Boonen helmet generously donated by

Lazer helmets to be auctioned off to the highest bidder( I have photos if

anyone wants to see them). The money donated is tax deductible and 100% of

all money donated will go directly to Aaron to help him get to worlds.

If you are wondering why doesn't the New Zealand Federation help out? Well

they are even a smaller federation than USA cycling, therefore we, Rubicon

need to cover all expenses such as airfare, food, hotel, transportation

and other miscellaneous items so Aaron can compete. This is a huge

opportunity for Aaron and if any business's want to step up and make an

offer on Boonen's helmet, we will gladly put your logo on Aaron's helmet.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to consider my request. Auction

ends August 6th, 2005. Please send bids to noreneg-@comcast.net <mailto:norenegodfrey%40comcast.net> or

call 503-806-2215.

Cheers

Norrene

Team Rubicon

Norrene Godfrey

Senior PA

Nike US Apparel

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