Are gas prices keeping you from races?

Freyensee, James P

2005-08-26



Not yet...



I recently took a vacation where I drove from here to Jackson Hole and

back where my 1999 Ford Exp. SUV consistently got 26-30mph!



My car keeps doing that, I'll tell OPEC to "bring it" ;)



-----Original Message-----

From: Evan MacKenzie [mailto:eva-@ci.hillsboro.or.us]

Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:53 AM

To: ragg-@yahoo.com; ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Are gas prices keeping you from races?



A gallon of gas still costs less than 20oz of coffee at Starbucks.

And adjusted for inflation, the price has not risen at all.



Try that with the Portland housing market, or $30,000 for an SUV.



Adams, Mike

2005-08-26



This is the sole reason all teams should collectively post carpool opportunities.

On that subject, if anyone needs a ride to HDRR, I will be leaving the Tigard\Tualatin area Sat. morning. I will not be there in time for the TT. Only doing the Crit. and RR.

Mike Adams



-----Original Message-----

From: Randy Dreiling [mailto:ragg-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 8:44 AM

To: eva-@ci.hillsboro.or.us; ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Are gas prices keeping you from races?





Kinda hard to do in Oakridge(not drive that

is)...can't buy a lot of stuff here, so you have to

drive to Eugene. It is easy for people in a big city

to drive less, but us in the boonie's must drive at

times

Take Care

Randy



--- Evan MacKenzie <eva-@ci.hillsboro.or.us> wrote:



 A gallon of gas still costs less than 20oz of coffee

at Starbucks.

And adjusted for inflation, the price has not risen

at all.



Try that with the Portland housing market, or

$30,000 for an SUV.



Besides, I hardly ever drive anyway. That's what

bicycles are for!



Does gas figure into my "cost" of going to a race,

or even a regular

ride? Sure. It costs more than not going at all. But

honestly, I think

more about the traffic and pollution I generate by

driving to a race

than the cost of the gas. I'm the one that chose

what car to drive based

on a number of factors, including the cost of fuel.

And at the lousy

25mpg that my Toyota Previa minivan gets, yeah, I

think about it. The

irony of the fact that I, a cyclist, only use my car

to get to rides and

races weighs heavily on my mind. But it's my own

damn fault for buying a

car that sucks so much gas to do so. I know I have

no control over the

price of gas, and never will, so I try to plan

accordingly. Ask

yourself: do you?



There's a great joke in the traffic engineering

world: You are not stuck

in traffic, you ARE traffic. If you don't want to

pay the so-called high

cost of gas, arrange your life so you don't have to

rely on it, or rely

on it less, or shut up and quit complaining.





I don't know what all the fuss is about.





Evan MacKenzie



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-----Original Message-----

From: Randy Dreiling [mailto:ragg-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 5:46 PM

To: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Are gas prices keeping you from

races?



As a promoter outside the Portland metro area where

a

majority of OBRA racers live, I was wondering if gas

prices have caused you not to travel to races?



Thanks

Randy



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Randy Dreiling

2005-08-26



Kinda hard to do in Oakridge(not drive that

is)...can't buy a lot of stuff here, so you have to

drive to Eugene. It is easy for people in a big city

to drive less, but us in the boonie's must drive at

times

Take Care

Randy



--- Evan MacKenzie <eva-@ci.hillsboro.or.us> wrote:



 A gallon of gas still costs less than 20oz of coffee

at Starbucks.

And adjusted for inflation, the price has not risen

at all.



Try that with the Portland housing market, or

$30,000 for an SUV.



Besides, I hardly ever drive anyway. That's what

bicycles are for!



Does gas figure into my "cost" of going to a race,

or even a regular

ride? Sure. It costs more than not going at all. But

honestly, I think

more about the traffic and pollution I generate by

driving to a race

than the cost of the gas. I'm the one that chose

what car to drive based

on a number of factors, including the cost of fuel.

And at the lousy

25mpg that my Toyota Previa minivan gets, yeah, I

think about it. The

irony of the fact that I, a cyclist, only use my car

to get to rides and

races weighs heavily on my mind. But it's my own

damn fault for buying a

car that sucks so much gas to do so. I know I have

no control over the

price of gas, and never will, so I try to plan

accordingly. Ask

yourself: do you?



There's a great joke in the traffic engineering

world: You are not stuck

in traffic, you ARE traffic. If you don't want to

pay the so-called high

cost of gas, arrange your life so you don't have to

rely on it, or rely

on it less, or shut up and quit complaining.





I don't know what all the fuss is about.





Evan MacKenzie



------------- __o

---------- _ '\<,_

----------(_)/ (_)______Get OUT OF YOUR CARS and

ride!





-----Original Message-----

From: Randy Dreiling [mailto:ragg-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 5:46 PM

To: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Are gas prices keeping you from

races?



As a promoter outside the Portland metro area where

a

majority of OBRA racers live, I was wondering if gas

prices have caused you not to travel to races?



Thanks

Randy



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Steven B

2005-08-26



The only time it's a real issue is when as mtb series

race is 16 hrs away round trip from Portland.

Otherwise it's not an issue for the bigger series

races.





--- Randy Dreiling <ragg-@yahoo.com> wrote:



 As a promoter outside the Portland metro area where

a

majority of OBRA racers live, I was wondering if gas

prices have caused you not to travel to races?



Thanks

Randy



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Evan MacKenzie

2005-08-26



A gallon of gas still costs less than 20oz of coffee at Starbucks.

And adjusted for inflation, the price has not risen at all.



Try that with the Portland housing market, or $30,000 for an SUV.



Besides, I hardly ever drive anyway. That's what bicycles are for!



Does gas figure into my "cost" of going to a race, or even a regular

ride? Sure. It costs more than not going at all. But honestly, I think

more about the traffic and pollution I generate by driving to a race

than the cost of the gas. I'm the one that chose what car to drive based

on a number of factors, including the cost of fuel. And at the lousy

25mpg that my Toyota Previa minivan gets, yeah, I think about it. The

irony of the fact that I, a cyclist, only use my car to get to rides and

races weighs heavily on my mind. But it's my own damn fault for buying a

car that sucks so much gas to do so. I know I have no control over the

price of gas, and never will, so I try to plan accordingly. Ask

yourself: do you?



There's a great joke in the traffic engineering world: You are not stuck

in traffic, you ARE traffic. If you don't want to pay the so-called high

cost of gas, arrange your life so you don't have to rely on it, or rely

on it less, or shut up and quit complaining.





I don't know what all the fuss is about.





Evan MacKenzie



------------- __o

---------- _ '\<,_

----------(_)/ (_)______Get OUT OF YOUR CARS and ride!





-----Original Message-----

From: Randy Dreiling [mailto:ragg-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 5:46 PM

To: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Are gas prices keeping you from races?



As a promoter outside the Portland metro area where a

majority of OBRA racers live, I was wondering if gas

prices have caused you not to travel to races?



Thanks

Randy



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Clark Ritchie

2005-08-25



 Try $3.11 in Los angeles. :-)



It sucks ..



What sucks -- LA or the gas prices?



Good thing you bought that new German girl car, Josh.



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Josh Wiggins

2005-08-25



Try $3.11 in Los angeles. :-)



It sucks ..



Josh

On Aug 25, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Randy Dreiling wrote:



 As a promoter outside the Portland metro area where a

majority of OBRA racers live, I was wondering if gas

prices have caused you not to travel to races?



Thanks

Randy



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McCann Family

2005-08-25



As a rider from So. OR. YES...





 From: Randy Dreiling <ragg-@yahoo.com>

Reply-To: ragg-@yahoo.com

To: ob-@topica.com, obra-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Are gas prices keeping you from races?

Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:45:39 -0700 (PDT)



As a promoter outside the Portland metro area where a

majority of OBRA racers live, I was wondering if gas

prices have caused you not to travel to races?



Thanks

Randy



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Randy Dreiling

2005-08-25



As a promoter outside the Portland metro area where a

majority of OBRA racers live, I was wondering if gas

prices have caused you not to travel to races?



Thanks

Randy



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