Freyensee, James P
Labor Day is in September, about what you would expect...I and from
others have said here, there are big drop-offs here in the NW/OBRA-land
July-August.
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From: mike.m-@obra.org [mailto:mike.m-@obra.org]
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:24 PM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Summer Race Turn Out
I was just reading posts on some list where they were discussing how in
NorCal there is a big drop off in attendance after Labor Day.
Mike Murray
-----Original Message-----
From: Freyensee, James P [mailto:james.p.f-@intel.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:33 PM
To: ragg-@yahoo.com; sweets-@rio.com; ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Summer Race Turn Out
There is little drop-off of the # of racers later in the season in the
NorCal area. I think one reason for this is that in fact, cyclo-cross
starts about 1 month later in October than it does here in Oregon.
Second,
NorCal scheduling positions their 'Oregon Cup' (aka, California Cup), in
August and September (which just so happens to be the most beautiful
months
in the bay area in terms of weather). I know this motivates some people
to
race in those months. Finally, many cyclo-cross racers in the bay area
use
those late season cycling road races to get in shape for cyclo-cross
season.
A typical pattern for a road/cyclo-cross racer is they do cyclo-cross
season, then they do a few races in Febuary and March because they have
better fitness than many road racers then, then they may drop off the
face
of the planet in May-July, then August they use the road races in
August-Sept to get them ready for the next cyclo-cross season.
I raced mtn. bike too when I was in the bay area, and I started doing
more
mtn. bike races as it dried out until by about July, I was doing nothing
but
mtn. biking because then in the bay area was crit season for road and I
didn't like doing those crits.
J
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Dreiling [mailto:ragg-@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:30 AM
To: sweets-@rio.com; ob-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Summer Race Turn Out
On the Mt Bike side. There is a big drop in the
number of racers after June.
As CROSS season starts sooner and sooner each year and
grows more and more popular it really hurts Summer
races. I think now in August people are starting to
shift to CROSS and some racers take off July now as a
rest month instead of Sept like in the past.
Just my 2 cents from a Mt Bike promoters view.
Thanks
Randy
--- Richard Sweet <sweets-@rio.com> wrote:
I hear a lot from locals around the Eugene area that
there should be
more racing in the summer, but come the time for
High Desert or other
races it seems people are burnt out and these events
are usually a
little less attended.
From a promoter standpoint we want to get the most competitors we can
to help make the event successful and make it worth
promoting every year.
Even though I hear, personally want, more events in
the summer, it seems
that from a turn-out point of view the early season
races draw way more
riders.
I wasn't able to make it to High Desert like I
wanted and I don't know
how many people made it but it didn't sound like it
was that well
attended for as many people say they want to race in
the summer.
As to the standpoint of 1/2/3 & 4/5 races, it seems
like every race I
entered (not a lot this year) had a separate 3 field
except Cherry Pie.
People always want more categories, and I agree with
you that having a
separate 3 field is good, but when a promoter is
limited on available
course or volunteer time something usually suffers,
more often the
women's fields.
As far as the rules go, Candi can correct or give
the correct answer, my
assumption was you got the points for the highest
category the race was,
i.e. 3/4 races you get 3 points, 1/2/3 races you get
1 points. As long
as the race is big enough to count towards points
and it is a 3/4 race
you should get 3 points. Unless I am mistaken, this
could very well be.
This year we will host our two road races in the
July and August, so get
ready to peak at that time of year, as you won't
want to miss them.
Anywase, just another $.02 worth from a promoter and
cat 3 racer in
Oregon. Take it as you will and go have some fun
riding your bike.
Time to Ride,
Richard Sweet
Paul's Bicycle Way of Life Cycling team
Sweet Sports
Eugene, Oregon
Tim Plummer wrote:
Thanks Matt.
The High Desert weekend is in August and it has a
3 only field. What
more could
you ask for...
Tim
Quoting Math-@dowa.com:
High Desert RR?
mathew braun
d o w a
319 sw washington street. #200
portland, or 97204
p: 503.226.6950
f: 503.273.9192
m: 503.808.0495
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From: Schreck, George
[mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:59 AM
To: Mathew Braun; cmur-@obra.org;
ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] 2006 Race Schedule
Right now, all the one day races, other than the
district championship,
are skewed toward the Spring. It would be nice
to have a road race in
the summer when the weather is good. If you are
a road racer, there are
no races in the summer unless you enter a stage
race (Please do not tell
me we have PIR as a counter argument).
Silverton has not been a spring
classic in recent memory, as until this year it
was held in the summer.
________________________________
From: David Hart [mailto:kerch-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:34 PM
To: Math-@dowa.com; cmur-@obra.org;
ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] 2006 Race Schedule
I think of it as a spring classic.
Let's keep it in April or early May.
David Hart
Vancouver, Washington
________________________________
From: Math-@dowa.com
Reply-To: Math-@dowa.com
To: cmur-@obra.org, ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] 2006 Race Schedule
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:23:26 -0700
WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE SILVERTON ROAD
RACE IN O6......
WINTER, SPRING, SUMMER, FALL?
Thanks,
and how often do you change your toothbrush?
mathew braun
d o w a
319 sw washington street. #200
portland, or 97204
p: 503.226.6950
f: 503.273.9192
m: 503.808.0495
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