Re: Historical perspective - was Summer Race Turn Out

Freyensee, James P

2005-09-16

Cherry Pie is a good course...there is a good hill strategically placed

not too far from the finish that can sort some good and not-so-good

riders out but the course is not overly brutal...I don't think if it

were ever to move, say two weeks later, it would affect turnout.



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The answer to your question is the Tour of Willamette. This early

season Pro stage race in April bumped up the OBRA calender to start in

February so that riders would be fit by April. The February 28th Cherry

Pie race is one of the best attended races all year. By the middle of

the season there are only about 30 Category 2 riders at each race. I

would love to see the calender push back a few weeks or a month so that

some of the best racing of the year were not in 45 degrees and rain

weather. This will never happen. The promoters are set on their dates,

and they are probably too afraid to move them in fear that they would

loose participants due to change.



My two cents .. AP



Pat Sagers <pat.s-@alldata.net> wrote:



I have been road racing a little for the last 3 - 4 years and

this last year it really hit home on how hard it is to get adequate base

miles in the legs so early in the year. We had a miserable, seemingly

endless winter out here in central Oregon and just when the weather

settled down and it was more of a pleasure to be out and riding, nearly

all the racing was completely done. If I lived in the Portland area, I

would definitely hit the midweek offerings, but midweek races in the

evenings with a 3 hour drive is a killer. Just can't do it.



This is my question: Why or how did Oregon racing become so much

a winter/spring sport and not a summer sport? I realize that a couple

road races have dotted the calendar after the Cascade Classic, but why

the long dead space after that. Summer starts on June 21 and we have

the Cascade stage soon after and then very little. I want to thank the

Plummer's and everyone else who helped with the Bend High Desert as it

was a great, great event. But it seems there's plenty of weeks in July

and August when nothing at all is going on. I would actually make the 4

hour each way trips to the Banana Belt series if they were held in July,

when it's dry and warm.



Thanks



Pat Sagers



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Eric Kytola

2005-09-16

speaking of the Tour of Willamette.....would someone bring it back so i

can start racing again.



thanks in advance.



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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:24 AM

To: pat.s-@alldata.net; ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Historical perspective - was Summer Race Turn

Out





The answer to your question is the Tour of Willamette. This early

season Pro stage race in April bumped up the OBRA calender to start in

February so that riders would be fit by April. The February 28th Cherry

Pie race is one of the best attended races all year. By the middle of

the season there are only about 30 Category 2 riders at each race. I

would love to see the calender push back a few weeks or a month so that

some of the best racing of the year were not in 45 degrees and rain

weather. This will never happen. The promoters are set on their dates,

and they are probably too afraid to move them in fear that they would

loose participants due to change.



My two cents .. AP



Pat Sagers <pat.s-@alldata.net> wrote:



I have been road racing a little for the last 3 - 4 years and

this last year it really hit home on how hard it is to get adequate base

miles in the legs so early in the year. We had a miserable, seemingly

endless winter out here in central Oregon and just when the weather

settled down and it was more of a pleasure to be out and riding, nearly

all the racing was completely done. If I lived in the Portland area, I

would definitely hit the midweek offerings, but midweek races in the

evenings with a 3 hour drive is a killer. Just can't do it.



This is my question: Why or how did Oregon racing become so much

a winter/spring sport and not a summer sport? I realize that a couple

road races have dotted the calendar after the Cascade Classic, but why

the long dead space after that. Summer starts on June 21 and we have

the Cascade stage soon after and then very little. I want to thank the

Plummer's and everyone else who helped with the Bend High Desert as it

was a great, great event. But it seems there's plenty of weeks in July

and August when nothing at all is going on. I would actually make the 4

hour each way trips to the Banana Belt series if they were held in July,

when it's dry and warm.



Thanks



Pat Sagers



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Alliance Data Systems

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hutchsraceteam

2005-09-16

The answer to your question is the Tour of Willamette. This early season Pro stage race in April bumped up the OBRA calender to start in February so that riders would be fit by April. The February 28th Cherry Pie race is one of the best attended races all year. By the middle of the season there are only about 30 Category 2 riders at each race. I would love to see the calender push back a few weeks or a month so that some of the best racing of the year were not in 45 degrees and rain weather. This will never happen. The promoters are set on their dates, and they are probably too afraid to move them in fear that they would loose participants due to change.



My two cents .. AP



Pat Sagers <pat.s-@alldata.net> wrote:

I have been road racing a little for the last 3 - 4 years and this last year it really hit home on how hard it is to get adequate base miles in the legs so early in the year. We had a miserable, seemingly endless winter out here in central Oregon and just when the weather settled down and it was more of a pleasure to be out and riding, nearly all the racing was completely done. If I lived in the Portland area, I would definitely hit the midweek offerings, but midweek races in the evenings with a 3 hour drive is a killer. Just can't do it.



This is my question: Why or how did Oregon racing become so much a winter/spring sport and not a summer sport? I realize that a couple road races have dotted the calendar after the Cascade Classic, but why the long dead space after that. Summer starts on June 21 and we have the Cascade stage soon after and then very little. I want to thank the Plummer's and everyone else who helped with the Bend High Desert as it was a great, great event. But it seems there's plenty of weeks in July and August when nothing at all is going on. I would actually make the 4 hour each way trips to the Banana Belt series if they were held in July, when it's dry and warm.



Thanks



Pat Sagers



ITS Systems Support

Alliance Data Systems

(541) 389-0120 x1554





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