Front Wheel Wobble Explained

markjgi-@yahoo.com

2005-09-19



to check to fork it pretty simple. Most shops should

have a set of campy "cup" tools, that let you in

essesence put the cups open end towards each other in

the fork dropouts. You adjusts them so the open ends

are close together. IF the dropouts are parallel, then

the lips of the two cups are parallel. If the dropouts

are not, then the lips of the cups are visiblly out of

allignment.



no need to send stuff to Calfee in less you want to, a

local shop should be able to check with the fork still

on the bike.



Calfee is right tho, steel can be "cold forged" which

means bent. Carbon and aluminum are either straight or

not. The only fix for them, is the garbage can.



Mark Ginsberg



--- Ron Magnus <ro-@hevanet.com> wrote:



 Hello everyone,



Earlier this year there was a thread running for a

week or so concerning why

some bicycles have wobble or shimmy at certain

speeds. What follows is an

explanation from a credible source that should clear

the air. Enjoy the

reading!



Ron Magnus-Portland, OR





The following was sent to our dealers last

month:Calfee Design has

identified a cause of speed wobble (a.k.a. shimmy)

and instability that can

be prevented. Speed wobble is a dangerous condition

that can cause the rider

to lose control of the bicycle and crash. While

loose headsets and out of

true wheels and frames can contribute to

speedwobble, we have found that

fork asymmetry can also cause speed wobble. Fork

symmetry is defined as the

symmetrical position of the forkdropouts in relation

to the steering axis.

Specifically, the equality of the distances from the

dropout faces to the

steering axis must be within a certain tolerance for

the bike to ride in a

stable and confident manner. Traditionally, steel

forks were cold set after

welding or brazing torealign them after possible

distortion caused by the

heating and cooling of the metal. A diligent steel

frame builder can align

the fork blades to within a millimeter of symmetry.

Carbon fiber forks

cannot be cold set. They must be molded straight To

begin with. We have

found that a small percentage of carbon forks by

various makers were molded

with asymmetrical fork blades. Some are Off by a

little over a millimeter

and others are off by two or more. Forks that are

off by over 1.8

millimeters in symmetry have a good Possibility of

being prone to speed

wobble. A symptom of a fork that is off by 1.8 mm

or more is a noticeable

difficulty when riding no hands at a slow speed

(less than 10 mph). One has

to lean to the side slightly to keep going

straight. A bike with

asymmetrical forks seems to corner better in one

direction but not so well

in the other. At speeds of 30 mph or more, the bike

can develop speed

wobble. If your bike has the above-mentioned

symptoms, the fork should

bemeasured for symmetry. This is difficult to

measure without propertools.

Calfee Design measures all forks for symmetry and is

equipped tomeasure any

fork. If any Calfee customer wishes to have their

forkchecked, please send

it to us with a letter requesting a forkinspection.

Non-Calfee customers may

send their forks for inspection for a nominal fee.

Replacements may be

available for asymmetrical forks, depending on the

individual fork maker's

policy. Craig Calfee



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2005-09-19



Hello everyone,



Earlier this year there was a thread running for a week or so concerning why

some bicycles have wobble or shimmy at certain speeds. What follows is an

explanation from a credible source that should clear the air. Enjoy the

reading!



Ron Magnus-Portland, OR





The following was sent to our dealers last month:Calfee Design has

identified a cause of speed wobble (a.k.a. shimmy) and instability that can

be prevented. Speed wobble is a dangerous condition that can cause the rider

to lose control of the bicycle and crash. While loose headsets and out of

true wheels and frames can contribute to speedwobble, we have found that

fork asymmetry can also cause speed wobble. Fork symmetry is defined as the

symmetrical position of the forkdropouts in relation to the steering axis.

Specifically, the equality of the distances from the dropout faces to the

steering axis must be within a certain tolerance for the bike to ride in a

stable and confident manner. Traditionally, steel forks were cold set after

welding or brazing torealign them after possible distortion caused by the

heating and cooling of the metal. A diligent steel frame builder can align

the fork blades to within a millimeter of symmetry. Carbon fiber forks

cannot be cold set. They must be molded straight To begin with. We have

found that a small percentage of carbon forks by various makers were molded

with asymmetrical fork blades. Some are Off by a little over a millimeter

and others are off by two or more. Forks that are off by over 1.8

millimeters in symmetry have a good Possibility of being prone to speed

wobble. A symptom of a fork that is off by 1.8 mm or more is a noticeable

difficulty when riding no hands at a slow speed (less than 10 mph). One has

to lean to the side slightly to keep going straight. A bike with

asymmetrical forks seems to corner better in one direction but not so well

in the other. At speeds of 30 mph or more, the bike can develop speed

wobble. If your bike has the above-mentioned symptoms, the fork should

bemeasured for symmetry. This is difficult to measure without propertools.

Calfee Design measures all forks for symmetry and is equipped tomeasure any

fork. If any Calfee customer wishes to have their forkchecked, please send

it to us with a letter requesting a forkinspection. Non-Calfee customers may

send their forks for inspection for a nominal fee. Replacements may be

available for asymmetrical forks, depending on the individual fork maker's

policy. Craig Calfee