hendr-@gorge.net
Tell like it is, Luciano. I was also one of those kids whose folks
didn't have enough money to buy me a race bike when I was a kid. I
waited until I was old enough to get a paper route and bought my own
BMX bike and raced it a little. I probably would have done more if
there had been a program or my parents had been willing to shuttle me
to races. Instead I played soccer and baseball - relatively cheap
sports by comparison. Nothing wrong them, but I wish there had more
avenues for me to race bikes as a kid. I finally bought a road bike
with money from yard work when I was about 14, but there still
weren't any places, at least that I knew of, for me to race it (I
still have the aluminum Raleigh frame!).
Simple things will do. I built up a TT bike this year and loaned it
out to some our juniors here in HR this summer. I don't have time
right now to organize a good kids program, but I am certainly up for
helping however I can.
George, maybe the fact that you don't have any kids of your own is an
opportunity for you to help kids whose parents can't and give back to
the sport that has given so much to you?
---- Original Message ----
From: ride-@hotmail.com
To: George.-@PacifiCorp.com, da-@preciseflight.com,
ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] RE: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale St?mptown Cy
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:18:57 +0000
Well George it may be a matter of personal choice and background. I
worked
for the LA Rec and parks for years and spent an equal amount of time
volunteering. For two decades even with children of my own I have
spent
thousands of hours and dollars on other peoples kids. Some children
are not
blessed enough to have active, productive, and most of all involved
parents
at home. Least we forget cycling's extreme cost as compared to lets
say
Hoops. That is why even as a youth my working parents could not
afford the
sport beyond the bike. If it were not for local sports camps getting
people
involved in alternative sports like fencing, tennis, cycling kids
like
myself and oh yes Nelson Vails who attended these camps with me
would never
seen olympic silver at least not in track cycling. One of my
greatest
memories was throwing my own Hoops camps every summer for those who
could
not afford the local camps given by NBA players. Finally the
alternative is
scary urban kids left to there own choices, as prison space is on
the rise,
intervention beyond our own doors is crucial, and is not just a
subject to
throw money at. It takes time and personal commitment.
From: "Schreck, George" <George.-@PacifiCorp.com>
To: ride-@hotmail.com, da-@preciseflight.com, ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] RE: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale St?mptown Cy
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:24:11 -0700
Why can their parents not subsidize their racing. Why is this the
role of
others. I do not begrudge some assistance and support those
efforts, but
the parents need to be the primary people paying for their
children's
endeavors. As it is, I already pay high property taxes and a
Multnomah
income tax to support schools, and as a citizen I believe I should
be
willing to do so. I also have no issue with providing some junior
racing
support, but at some point, I look to the parents to support their
children
and not expect others to do so. I realize it is a sacrifice for
those
parents, but they chose to have children and everything that comes
with it.
I made other choices for better or worse.
-----Original Message-----
From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:48 AM
To: da-@preciseflight.com; ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] RE: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale St?mptown Cy
My opinion on any governing body is the same there is enough
revenue
generated by Adult racers to subsidize junior racing. Oregon could
be the
next thing to the Olympic training grounds in Colorado if Oregon
racers
start to embrace junior racing for it's true potential. I don't
know about
you but watching Carson Miller beating up on adults is exciting and
a
tribute to the future of the the sport (Sorry OLD GUYS).Let alone
the
invaluble experience Kent Johnston brings to his kids as
coach/active
racer.
If every racer who could afford it sponsored one junior racer that
would
bring hundreds of juniors into a system that now struggles to field
100 at
any race. Compare that to euro racing where juniors and development
programs
are there most precious commodity. Thus the euro dominance of the
sport in
almost all disciplines. No offense Lance,Levi, and the rest. Just
another
thought.
From: dan davis <da-@preciseflight.com>
Reply-To: da-@preciseflight.com
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] RE: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale St?mptown Cy
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 17:29:47 +0000
can you say UCI. the non UCI cost for the junior race is $12. the
UCI
junior is $20, some of that $20 goes to the UCI for all the work
they do
for us? they do do work for us right?
Dan...
Hormann, Douglas J wrote:
You're not the only one Luciano. I was wondering the same
thing. Can
someone explain the organization of cyclocross vs. other OBRA
events
so
we can understand the cost difference. I know there's
insurance, etc.
to
be paid; is it at a different rate for cyclocross events.?
Doug Hormann
-----Original Message-----
From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:49 AM
To: bri-@halffastvelo.com; ob-@topica.com;
nwcyc-@topica.com;
obra-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale St?mptown Cyclocross
Classic- Sat
10/8
Maybe off topic but why are the Junior cross races so
expensive with
the
tremendous turnout for these events promoters would encourage
junior
also
known as future racers by not making racing cost prohibitive.
I could
be
alone here but after bike shopping and race fees it is quite a
leap
for
an
eight to ten race season. I think my main concern is the
future of
Oregon
racing if the juniors programs are not somehow subsidized.
Just a
thought.
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