registering bicycles and traffic violations- making the loops "trip"

markjgi-@yahoo.com

2005-10-10



friends, if the intersection in w/in portland, call

(503) 823-7233 (SAFE), and they can make it more

sensitive



mark ginsberg

--- Doug Hormann <djhor-@verizon.net> wrote:



 Ron, I'm afraid you're on your own their. I've got

one intersection on my

commute that has been repaved and I can only guess

at where the loop is. If

it doesn't change, I wait for clear traffic and go.

If I get ticketed (yes,

cops get tickets too)I'll explain the situation and

hope for the best,

however I probably won't go with one of my buddies

watching.



-----Original Message-----

From: Ron Magnus [mailto:ro-@hevanet.com]

Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:33 PM

To: Doug Hormann

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] registering bicycles and

traffic violations





Hi Doug,



Any suggestions for those intersections where one

can not see the loops?

One that comes to mind is S.W. Vermont and Oleson,

another is S.W. 185th

and Rock Creek Blvd. (all corners).



Ron



On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Doug Hormann wrote:



 Vicki,



Try stopping with your wheels directly over and in

line with the induction

 loop in the road. You can see where they are by

the thin cuts in the

 pavement. This causes the greatest amount of

induction loss in the loop

and

 will give you a better chance of triggering the

light. For a fuller

 explanation and a graphic of how these gizmos

work, surf to this link:

 

http://www.humantransport.org/bicycledriving/library/signals/detection.htm

  

Doug

Votre policier local.



-----Original Message-----

From: Vicki Schroeder

[mailto:vicki_sc-@yahoo.com]

 Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 9:40 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] registering bicycles and

traffic violations

 





I have a question about bikes and dealing with

traffic lights that

 can't be triggered by bicycles - particularly at

left turn light

 signals. What are we supposed to do? Sit there

through x?? light cycles

 till a car shows up to trigger it or make the turn

safely when no

 traffic is coming from the front, even though that

requires "running"

 the light?



Always wondered about this one ........ thoughts?

Official policies??

 

Thanks

Vicki



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