OT - CCC Rant

Ron and Dorothy Strasser

2005-10-17



If some of this operational behavior at CCC is true (and this souunds like

it is) then I believe there may be (have developed) an environment of

unacceptable ethics in some of the employees. I do not like hearing about

some of the things regarding the head of the organization, but the frontline

professional ethics (including honesty) should be at the top of the priority

list. If he is performing all of his duties professionally and this other

stuff does not enter into the CCC, then I would tend to give him his chance.

If I saw some of these behaviors (I doubt if he would try to "off" a deer on

Alberta however) coming out "at the office", then I would really be

concerned for that organization and our community. Nobody is perfect, but

in an organization that is based on the giving of the metro area public and

business for it to survive... it needs to operate at the highest level of

integretity. I wonder if the "Board" should do us all a favor and look into

the "honesty/ethics" of the people/organization? I wonder if the Board is

removed enough from the business to do that? A few years back I gave them

two of my bicycles I was not riding any longer and have to admit felt a

little hollow when I walked out as I was not even thanked or hardly

acknowledged. One was a 1961 Raleigh record that I won the Novice Mt. Tabor

Rose Festival race on in 78, 79 or 80 (can't remember which for

sure...getting old is fun because you can forget the details...maybe I

actually won that race all three years!!!!) and I had racks and fenders on

it. My have times changed in racing. I did hear that there was some

unhappy employees a few years ago that left and started the bike shop on

Mississippi... which received another of my old bikes (afterward) and a

bunch of my old touring equipment.... When I walked out of there I felt like

it was appreciated and would get to some people that would really make good

use of the donation. I sure hope the GOOD done by the CCC outweighs any bad

and (maybe I am naive) if some folks working and volunteering there might be

tempted to take advantage or be rude... the management will lead/mentor them

away from that behavior. At present I can say I have no desire to make a

trip there. Boy was ignorance bliss for me.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Evan MacKenzie" <eva-@ci.hillsboro.or.us>

To: "OBRA" <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:27 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OT - CCC Rant





 Yeah, and I had a guy come in to a shop I once worked at who wanted an

estimate of a bike that had been damaged or stolen (sorry, can't

remember which). He wanted to know what the new, replacement value of

the bike was. On further examination, I learned he was an employee of

CCC, and had been there when the bike came in on a donation. It was real

nice, so he "took it."



Oh, and there was the time a couple years back when I was given a whole

bunch of reflective tape (I'm talking a couple yards here). It was way

more than I could use, and I lved near CCC at the time, so I took about

half of it over there figuring they could put it on kids' bikes. The guy

I gave it to at the shop said "Oh cool, I'll put a bunch on my bike."





I haven't been to CCC since, and I no longer recommend them to other

people either, either to donate to or buy from. But if you're a bike

whore with low ethics who is on a budget, I'm sure it's a great place to

work.







Evan MacKenzie

Urban Planner I

City of Hillsboro

150 E. Main Street, 4th floor

Hillsboro, OR 97123

503-681-6154

eva-@ci.hillsboro.or.us

http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/





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-----Original Message-----

From: Matthew Wolpert [mailto:matthew.-@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:17 AM

To: OBRA

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT - CCC Rant



The person at the helm of an organization is responsible for setting

the tone throughout the organization.



Perhaps for a large corporation with thousands of employees it would

be unreasonable to link everyday customer service issues with a

"Jekyll & Hyde" type CEO. But for a small community operation like the

CCC it's not very far from the executive director to the shop floor.



Suspended for shooting a deer on his college campus? (In case one

hasn't been to Bard, it's not the type of school where half the

students have gun racks in their pickup trucks, it's a fairly elite

east coast liberal arts college).



Convicted by a jury of assault against his girlfriend?



Am I surprised to hear that the organization run by this individual

has now stooped to treating its customers with blatant disregard? No,

unfortunately I am not.













On 10/16/05, Randy Dreiling <ragg-@yahoo.com> wrote:

 Customer service does suck these days many times, but

Sorry not sure how something that happended with

Daniel 5 years ago is relevant to something that

happened with a guy named Ben? this week???



Doesn't the CCC give away thousands of free bikes to

needy kids during the holiday bike drive...funny how

that wasn't in that tabloid type story.

From: Matthew Wolpert <matthew.-@gmail.com> Mailed-By: gmail.com



To: OBRA <ob-@topica.com>

Date: Oct 15, 2005 10:46 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT - CCC Rant



Here is an archived Oregonian article from earlier this year,

regarding the executive director of the CCC. It could be relevant to

the experience your girlfriend describes. Unfortunately, I cannot say

I am surprised by her story, please pass along my sympathies.



http://tinyurl.com/askt7



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Luciano bailey

2005-10-17



The problem as I stated in an earlier rant about junior cycling it is about

finding those from the community who really have a vested interest in the

area %75 percent of the work I do is in NE zips and between CCC and the BIKE

program I have done nothing but battle both of these .ORG on community

concerns, hiring from within and the profiteering style of community based

urban groups. The budgets and grants recieved by these orgs is huge yet they

hire no African Americans nor has either offered myself or any of the other

most likely canidates any type of part or full time opportunities. So yes

look carefully at how you donate your dollars, and time.





 From: Evan MacKenzie <eva-@ci.hillsboro.or.us>

Reply-To: eva-@ci.hillsboro.or.us

To: OBRA <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OT - CCC Rant

Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:27:10 -0700



Yeah, and I had a guy come in to a shop I once worked at who wanted an

estimate of a bike that had been damaged or stolen (sorry, can't

remember which). He wanted to know what the new, replacement value of

the bike was. On further examination, I learned he was an employee of

CCC, and had been there when the bike came in on a donation. It was real

nice, so he "took it."



Oh, and there was the time a couple years back when I was given a whole

bunch of reflective tape (I'm talking a couple yards here). It was way

more than I could use, and I lved near CCC at the time, so I took about

half of it over there figuring they could put it on kids' bikes. The guy

I gave it to at the shop said "Oh cool, I'll put a bunch on my bike."





I haven't been to CCC since, and I no longer recommend them to other

people either, either to donate to or buy from. But if you're a bike

whore with low ethics who is on a budget, I'm sure it's a great place to

work.







Evan MacKenzie

Urban Planner I

City of Hillsboro

150 E. Main Street, 4th floor

Hillsboro, OR 97123

503-681-6154

eva-@ci.hillsboro.or.us

http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/





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----------(_)/ (_)______Get on your bikes and ride!





-----Original Message-----

From: Matthew Wolpert [mailto:matthew.-@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:17 AM

To: OBRA

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT - CCC Rant



The person at the helm of an organization is responsible for setting

the tone throughout the organization.



Perhaps for a large corporation with thousands of employees it would

be unreasonable to link everyday customer service issues with a

"Jekyll & Hyde" type CEO. But for a small community operation like the

CCC it's not very far from the executive director to the shop floor.



Suspended for shooting a deer on his college campus? (In case one

hasn't been to Bard, it's not the type of school where half the

students have gun racks in their pickup trucks, it's a fairly elite

east coast liberal arts college).



Convicted by a jury of assault against his girlfriend?



Am I surprised to hear that the organization run by this individual

has now stooped to treating its customers with blatant disregard? No,

unfortunately I am not.













On 10/16/05, Randy Dreiling <ragg-@yahoo.com> wrote:

 Customer service does suck these days many times, but

Sorry not sure how something that happended with

Daniel 5 years ago is relevant to something that

happened with a guy named Ben? this week???



Doesn't the CCC give away thousands of free bikes to

needy kids during the holiday bike drive...funny how

that wasn't in that tabloid type story.

From: Matthew Wolpert <matthew.-@gmail.com> Mailed-By: gmail.com



To: OBRA <ob-@topica.com>

Date: Oct 15, 2005 10:46 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT - CCC Rant



Here is an archived Oregonian article from earlier this year,

regarding the executive director of the CCC. It could be relevant to

the experience your girlfriend describes. Unfortunately, I cannot say

I am surprised by her story, please pass along my sympathies.



http://tinyurl.com/askt7



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com



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Evan MacKenzie

2005-10-17



Yeah, and I had a guy come in to a shop I once worked at who wanted an

estimate of a bike that had been damaged or stolen (sorry, can't

remember which). He wanted to know what the new, replacement value of

the bike was. On further examination, I learned he was an employee of

CCC, and had been there when the bike came in on a donation. It was real

nice, so he "took it."



Oh, and there was the time a couple years back when I was given a whole

bunch of reflective tape (I'm talking a couple yards here). It was way

more than I could use, and I lved near CCC at the time, so I took about

half of it over there figuring they could put it on kids' bikes. The guy

I gave it to at the shop said "Oh cool, I'll put a bunch on my bike."





I haven't been to CCC since, and I no longer recommend them to other

people either, either to donate to or buy from. But if you're a bike

whore with low ethics who is on a budget, I'm sure it's a great place to

work.







Evan MacKenzie

Urban Planner I

City of Hillsboro

150 E. Main Street, 4th floor

Hillsboro, OR 97123

503-681-6154

eva-@ci.hillsboro.or.us

http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/





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----------(_)/ (_)______Get on your bikes and ride!





-----Original Message-----

From: Matthew Wolpert [mailto:matthew.-@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:17 AM

To: OBRA

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT - CCC Rant



The person at the helm of an organization is responsible for setting

the tone throughout the organization.



Perhaps for a large corporation with thousands of employees it would

be unreasonable to link everyday customer service issues with a

"Jekyll & Hyde" type CEO. But for a small community operation like the

CCC it's not very far from the executive director to the shop floor.



Suspended for shooting a deer on his college campus? (In case one

hasn't been to Bard, it's not the type of school where half the

students have gun racks in their pickup trucks, it's a fairly elite

east coast liberal arts college).



Convicted by a jury of assault against his girlfriend?



Am I surprised to hear that the organization run by this individual

has now stooped to treating its customers with blatant disregard? No,

unfortunately I am not.













On 10/16/05, Randy Dreiling <ragg-@yahoo.com> wrote:

 Customer service does suck these days many times, but

Sorry not sure how something that happended with

Daniel 5 years ago is relevant to something that

happened with a guy named Ben? this week???



Doesn't the CCC give away thousands of free bikes to

needy kids during the holiday bike drive...funny how

that wasn't in that tabloid type story.

From: Matthew Wolpert <matthew.-@gmail.com> Mailed-By: gmail.com



To: OBRA <ob-@topica.com>

Date: Oct 15, 2005 10:46 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT - CCC Rant



Here is an archived Oregonian article from earlier this year,

regarding the executive director of the CCC. It could be relevant to

the experience your girlfriend describes. Unfortunately, I cannot say

I am surprised by her story, please pass along my sympathies.



http://tinyurl.com/askt7



Matthew Wolpert

2005-10-17



The person at the helm of an organization is responsible for setting

the tone throughout the organization.



Perhaps for a large corporation with thousands of employees it would

be unreasonable to link everyday customer service issues with a

"Jekyll & Hyde" type CEO. But for a small community operation like the

CCC it's not very far from the executive director to the shop floor.



Suspended for shooting a deer on his college campus? (In case one

hasn't been to Bard, it's not the type of school where half the

students have gun racks in their pickup trucks, it's a fairly elite

east coast liberal arts college).



Convicted by a jury of assault against his girlfriend?



Am I surprised to hear that the organization run by this individual

has now stooped to treating its customers with blatant disregard? No,

unfortunately I am not.













On 10/16/05, Randy Dreiling <ragg-@yahoo.com> wrote:

 Customer service does suck these days many times, but

Sorry not sure how something that happended with

Daniel 5 years ago is relevant to something that

happened with a guy named Ben? this week???



Doesn't the CCC give away thousands of free bikes to

needy kids during the holiday bike drive...funny how

that wasn't in that tabloid type story.

From: Matthew Wolpert <matthew.-@gmail.com> Mailed-By: gmail.com



To: OBRA <ob-@topica.com>

Date: Oct 15, 2005 10:46 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT - CCC Rant



Here is an archived Oregonian article from earlier this year,

regarding the executive director of the CCC. It could be relevant to

the experience your girlfriend describes. Unfortunately, I cannot say

I am surprised by her story, please pass along my sympathies.



http://tinyurl.com/askt7



Randy Dreiling

2005-10-16



Customer service does suck these days many times, but

Sorry not sure how something that happended with

Daniel 5 years ago is relevant to something that

happened with a guy named Ben? this week???



Doesn't the CCC give away thousands of free bikes to

needy kids during the holiday bike drive...funny how

that wasn't in that tabloid type story.













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2005-10-15



Here is an archived Oregonian article from earlier this year,

regarding the executive director of the CCC. It could be relevant to

the experience your girlfriend describes. Unfortunately, I cannot say

I am surprised by her story, please pass along my sympathies.



http://tinyurl.com/askt7



http://www.ridemybike.org/shift/viewtopic.php?t=19&view=previous&sid=358f531fa2f449cc13271fbeaad8be07



On 10/15/05, matt-@oatmail.org <matt-@oatmail.org> wrote:

 My girlfriend had a frustrating expierence at the alberta community

cycling center and wants to rant. You guys love to banter back and forth,

so I figured this was a good place for it :)



She isn't a big cycling geek but was trying to do something nice, anyway,

the rant is attached.



matt-@oatmail.org

2005-10-15

My girlfriend had a frustrating expierence at the alberta community

cycling center and wants to rant. You guys love to banter back and forth,

so I figured this was a good place for it :)



She isn't a big cycling geek but was trying to do something nice, anyway,

the rant is attached.