Re: Oregon Racers

Candi Murray

2000-02-16

See Doug's note below



If you want to 'rattle some cages' at USAC here are some addresses



wcon-@usacycling.org Warren Conrad- Membership Director

jtar-@usacycling.org John Tarbert - Technical Director

lvoi-@usacycling.org - Lisa Voight - Executive Director

eca-@usacycling.org> Evan Call - USCF Director



Candi

 

The members of OBRA stopped Oprah from banning bikes

in the city. We also helped Lance Armstrong get the

most votes in Times' Man of the Year poll (As you know

they gave it to Jeff Bezos who didn't even place in

the poll.) OBRA has more power than we know what to

do with. Why don't you give us some e-mail and

physical addresses to write to rattle some cages at

USAC.



--- Candi Murray <ob-@teleport.com> wrote:

 





We have been told this before by the management of

USAC. When we broke

away we kept the upgrade system identical to theirs

so that riders didn't

have to adher to two systems.

Meeting with Warren Conrad and Evan Call at USAC we

asked to have our races

considered eligible as we consider theirs for our

upgrades their response

was that 'it was a safety issue'.

Not true of course if we are using the same system.

This is just their way

of retribution- once again not working toward the

overall adavancement of

all cycling. How sad.



Candi Murray



At 11:20 PM 2/15/2000 -0800, John Bravard wrote:

 





I wish I could say that it suprises me that USAC

would ignore potential

 up-and-coming riders in areas that choose not to

promote bicycle races

 through the USAC, but it doesn't. By doing this,

USAC will continue to erode

 their base of competitive cyclists. Does USAC not

understand that increasing

 the pool of competitive cyclists, especially among

younger riders, will

 increase the number of riders competing at an

international level? I am not

 alone in my belief that the best US bike racers

have not yet raced a bike

 because bicycle racing has not been extended to a

larger population.

 

I, and many others in Oregon and around the

country, ask that you reconsider

 your recognition of other sanctioning

organizations. Do not put a young

 rider in the situation that he/she cannot gain the

upgrade points necessary

 to race at a top level.



Regards,

John Bravard

L0144981

Portland, Oregon



-----Original Message-----

From: Diana Sanderson <dsand-@usacycling.org>

To: 'jbra-@pacifier.com' <jbra-@pacifier.com>

Cc: McChesney, Lydia



</o=USA.Cycling.Inc./ou=USAC/cn=Recipients/cn=LMcC-@usacycling.org>;

 Conrad, Warren



</o=USA.Cycling.Inc./ou=USAC/cn=Recipients/cn=WC-@usacycling.org>;

 Tarbert, John



</o=USA.Cycling.Inc./ou=USAC/cn=Recipients/cn=JTa-@usacycling.org>

 Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 1:33 PM

Subject: RE: Oregon Racers





 For any race outside USA Cycling permitted races,

we do not give credit

  towards an upgrade with USCF, so they will not be

able to use their results

  from OBRA.   If you have further questions, feel

free to contact Warren

  Conrad.





-----Original Message-----

From: John Bravard [SMTP:]

Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 12:16 AM

To: membe-@usacycling.org

Subject: Oregon Racers



Help me out here. There is some concern her in

Oregon regarding upgrades

  for aspiring riders. Assume a number of

junior/espoire riders in Oregon are

  looking to participate in some of the NRC races to

build the skills and

  fitness required to eventually make it to a

professional level. If they do

  not yet have the USCF category 2 ranking, will

they be able to use their

  results from OBRA sanctioned events to upgrade to

USCF category 2? If not,

  then there will be a number of riders denied the

chance to become this

  country's next great road racers. Please let me

know how USAC stands on

  this issue.



Thank you.

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Candi Murray

2000-02-16

We have been told this before by the management of USAC. When we broke

away we kept the upgrade system identical to theirs so that riders didn't

have to adher to two systems.

Meeting with Warren Conrad and Evan Call at USAC we asked to have our races

considered eligible as we consider theirs for our upgrades their response

was that 'it was a safety issue'.

Not true of course if we are using the same system. This is just their way

of retribution- once again not working toward the overall adavancement of

all cycling. How sad.



Candi Murray



At 11:20 PM 2/15/2000 -0800, John Bravard wrote:

 





I wish I could say that it suprises me that USAC would ignore potential

up-and-coming riders in areas that choose not to promote bicycle races

through the USAC, but it doesn't. By doing this, USAC will continue to erode

their base of competitive cyclists. Does USAC not understand that increasing

the pool of competitive cyclists, especially among younger riders, will

increase the number of riders competing at an international level? I am not

alone in my belief that the best US bike racers have not yet raced a bike

because bicycle racing has not been extended to a larger population.



I, and many others in Oregon and around the country, ask that you reconsider

your recognition of other sanctioning organizations. Do not put a young

rider in the situation that he/she cannot gain the upgrade points necessary

to race at a top level.



Regards,

John Bravard

L0144981

Portland, Oregon



-----Original Message-----

From: Diana Sanderson <dsand-@usacycling.org>

To: 'jbra-@pacifier.com' <jbra-@pacifier.com>

Cc: McChesney, Lydia

</o=USA.Cycling.Inc./ou=USAC/cn=Recipients/cn=LMcC-@usacycling.org>;

Conrad, Warren

</o=USA.Cycling.Inc./ou=USAC/cn=Recipients/cn=WC-@usacycling.org>;

Tarbert, John

</o=USA.Cycling.Inc./ou=USAC/cn=Recipients/cn=JTa-@usacycling.org>

Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 1:33 PM

Subject: RE: Oregon Racers





 For any race outside USA Cycling permitted races, we do not give credit

towards an upgrade with USCF, so they will not be able to use their results

from OBRA.   If you have further questions, feel free to contact Warren

Conrad.





-----Original Message-----

From: John Bravard [SMTP:]

Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 12:16 AM

To: membe-@usacycling.org

Subject: Oregon Racers



Help me out here. There is some concern her in Oregon regarding upgrades

for aspiring riders. Assume a number of junior/espoire riders in Oregon are

looking to participate in some of the NRC races to build the skills and

fitness required to eventually make it to a professional level. If they do

not yet have the USCF category 2 ranking, will they be able to use their

results from OBRA sanctioned events to upgrade to USCF category 2? If not,

then there will be a number of riders denied the chance to become this

country's next great road racers. Please let me know how USAC stands on

this issue.



Thank you.

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John Bravard

2000-02-15

I wish I could say that it suprises me that USAC would ignore potential

up-and-coming riders in areas that choose not to promote bicycle races

through the USAC, but it doesn't. By doing this, USAC will continue to erode

their base of competitive cyclists. Does USAC not understand that increasing

the pool of competitive cyclists, especially among younger riders, will

increase the number of riders competing at an international level? I am not

alone in my belief that the best US bike racers have not yet raced a bike

because bicycle racing has not been extended to a larger population.



I, and many others in Oregon and around the country, ask that you reconsider

your recognition of other sanctioning organizations. Do not put a young

rider in the situation that he/she cannot gain the upgrade points necessary

to race at a top level.



Regards,

John Bravard

L0144981

Portland, Oregon



-----Original Message-----

From: Diana Sanderson <dsand-@usacycling.org>

To: 'jbra-@pacifier.com' <jbra-@pacifier.com>

Cc: McChesney, Lydia

</o=USA.Cycling.Inc./ou=USAC/cn=Recipients/cn=LMcC-@usacycling.org>;

Conrad, Warren

</o=USA.Cycling.Inc./ou=USAC/cn=Recipients/cn=WC-@usacycling.org>;

Tarbert, John

</o=USA.Cycling.Inc./ou=USAC/cn=Recipients/cn=JTa-@usacycling.org>

Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 1:33 PM

Subject: RE: Oregon Racers





 For any race outside USA Cycling permitted races, we do not give credit

towards an upgrade with USCF, so they will not be able to use their results

from OBRA.   If you have further questions, feel free to contact Warren

Conrad.





-----Original Message-----

From: John Bravard [SMTP:]

Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 12:16 AM

To: membe-@usacycling.org

Subject: Oregon Racers



Help me out here. There is some concern her in Oregon regarding upgrades

for aspiring riders. Assume a number of junior/espoire riders in Oregon are

looking to participate in some of the NRC races to build the skills and

fitness required to eventually make it to a professional level. If they do

not yet have the USCF category 2 ranking, will they be able to use their

results from OBRA sanctioned events to upgrade to USCF category 2? If not,

then there will be a number of riders denied the chance to become this

country's next great road racers. Please let me know how USAC stands on

this issue.



Thank you.

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