david baker
OLN dropped from Dish NetworkI wouldnt switch to quick.
Dish network has done this kind of thing before to strongarm the channel
into submission. If it is not figured out by new years I will be looking at
directv myself, but it may get resolved real soon.
On a side note if you are thinking of switching satellite provider and going
hi-def, or considering hi-def satellite at all, now is not the time to do
it. Wait till mpeg4 receivers come out.
----- Original Message -----
From: Schreck, George
To: aust-@exponent.com ; mitch.-@intel.com ; OB-@topica.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OLN dropped from Dish Network
That really is the big question. Its focus seems to be a different target market, as it has a lot of hunting, fishing and bull riding, with Survivor and hockey thrown in.
Without the draw from Armstrong there well may be no coverage, as Leipheimer and Landis most likely will not be a draw for the average non-cyclist. Even with Armstrong, the hunting and fishing shows usually outdrew cycling, and in the end it comes down to number of viewers and money.
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From: Craig Austin [mailto:aust-@exponent.com]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:37 PM
To: mitch.-@intel.com; OB-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OLN dropped from Dish Network
What makes you think OLN will even carry cycling next year? It'll be all bull riding, all the time now that there are no Americans riding in the tour.
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From: Denham, Mitch [mailto:mitch.-@intel.com]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:43 AM
To: OB-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OLN dropped from Dish Network
On the flipside, OLN is now on the basic (yes, basic) cable package here on the westside with Comcast. ~$9/month now gets you OLN on channel 32, replacing some Spanish channel (Telemundo?). I no longer need to make the trek down to the Beaverton Comcast center to pick up the digital cable box every July!!
mitch
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From: Thomas Hoffman [mailto:t.hoff-@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:15 AM
To: ehop-@depaulindustries.com; 'OB-@topica.com'
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OLN dropped from Dish Network
DANG! Now I have to switch again!
Thomas Hoffman
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From: Eric Hopper [mailto:ehop-@depaulindustries.com]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:05 AM
To: 'OB-@topica.com'
Subject: [OBRA Chat] OLN dropped from Dish Network
This is bad news for cycling (and bull riding) fans using Dish Network:
Dish Network Pulls Outdoor Life Network
By SANDY SHORE
AP Business Writer
DENVER - The owner of The Dish Network said Thursday it pulled the Outdoor Life Network from its system after the cable channel failed to provide NHL games to the nation's second-largest satellite television provider.
EchoStar Communications Corp. spokesman Marc Lumpkin said the network did not show games on Oct. 10-11 and on Monday and Tuesday as advertised. "We were not given advance notice that they would not show the programming," he said.
Although best known for broadcasting the Tour de France and cyclist Lance Armstrong, OLN this fall took over broadcasting National Hockey League games on cable from ESPN, a unit of The Walt Disney Co.
"We are surprised and disappointed that Dish has unilaterally chosen to stop providing OLN to its customers, and denied fans the opportunity to watch sports coverage on OLN," spokeswoman Amy Phillips said.
The contract dispute between EchoStar and OLN revolves around OLN's placement in a higher-priced channel package by Dish Network, which is distributed to fewer viewers.
OLN, owned by cable giant Comcast Corp., set a requirement that the channel must be seen by 40 percent of a cable or satellite TV system's viewers in order for it to broadcast the NHL games. It said the Dish Network has failed to meet that requirement.
Lumpkin declined to comment on the specifics of the dispute.
EchoStar would have to move the channel from its top package to a lower-cost package that may have fewer channels but more viewers. That would raise the fees Dish Network viewers pay.
"We work hard to provide choice for customers and to keep prices low," Eric Sahl, an EchoStar senior vice president, said in a statement. "Most of our customers have made the decision they do not want to pay the additional cost of watching the channel."
EchoStar hasn't been afraid to take on networks before. In March 2004, it pulled Viacom Inc. programming - including MTV, the Comedy Channel and Nickelodeon - from the Dish Network for two days until an agreement was struck on a long-term contract.
Based in suburban Englewood, EchoStar's Dish Network has about 11.4 million customers.
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