FW: Warning on specific vehicle (st johns bridge)

Shane Fletcher

2005-12-12





On the weekend the traffic can also be light, but pretty much anytime

during the weekday and there is a fair amount of traffic .The paths

around the pylons were increased during the reconstruction and in my

experience are quite easy to maneuver around and the foot traffic is

generally very light. To me riding on a the roadway with no shoulder and

next to a foot high curb with fast moving traffic seems a lot less bike

friendly.







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From: Schreck, George [mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com]

Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:43 AM

To: dave_g-@hotmail.com; Dav-@Hevanet.com; ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Warning on specific vehicle (st johns bridge)







The sidewalk is not very bike friendly as you have to go around bridge

pylons in a few places, not to mention pedestrians. The road on the

other hand is two lanes in each direction with limited traffic which

means the cars have plenty of room to get by you. I rode the bridge on

Saturday and felt quite safe. I do not see the bridge as much of an

issue, and it is much safer than routes we use all the time like Cornell

to get to Skyline. The offending driver probably would have been a

problem anywhere and probably had nothing to do with the bridge.







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From: Dave German [mailto:dave_g-@hotmail.com]

Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 10:46 AM

To: Dav-@Hevanet.com; ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Warning on specific vehicle (st johns bridge)



Maybe so you don't get killed?



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From: .David.Auker. <mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.com>



To: ob-@topica.com



Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:18 PM



Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Warning on specific vehicle (st johns

bridge)







Why would anyone ride on the sidewalk when it says "bikes on

road"?



David Diviney wrote:



> I rode across it a couple of weeks ago and drove across it

today. The

> wide, raised sidewalk is still there and there are "bikes on

road"

> signs. Why would 3 riders not use the sidewalk? I rode

across it a

> bunch of times while it was under construction, no fun. The

sidewalk

> is great. It's easy to avoid pissing people off.

>

>

> */".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com>/

<mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.com%3e/> * wrote:

>

>     St Johns Bridge: On the recent "remodel," Multnomah County

had an

>     option

>     of making it safe for bicyclists...how did it end up (I

haven't

>     been on

>     it yet)? No bike lanes...but did they put up any "bicycles

on bridge

>     roadway" signs (like on the Sellwood Bridge)?

>

>     Sounds like this specific driver had major problems. I had

a conflict

>     with a van, but it said, "Eat Out More Often."

>

>     David "Eating at home tonight" A.

>

>

>     K P wrote:

>

>     > Hey guys - just wanted to let you know that a group of

three female

>     > riders from Presto Velo/Bicycle Attorney.com were

accosted by a

>     man on

>     > the St. John's bridge today. He was driving an SUV with

Washington

>     > plates that read "Eat Out" - no I'm really not kidding.

But point

>     > being, if he was willing to threaten, honk, swerve, and

rant at

>     three

>     > female cyclists, he'd probably do worse to you guys. He

mentioned

>     > something about "Someday I'll win this battle...."

whatever that

>     > means. Just a warning - he's pretty psycho.

>     >

>     > -KP

>     >

>     >

>

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