Tom Durkin
Any OBRA Masters members fit enough to do 3 hard days and
who did not ride Willamette this year MISSED OUT on a great
event. Any whining or moaning is unacceptable. Great
courses and great competition, what more can be offered?
----- Original Message -----
From: <mark.sc-@milliman.com>
To: <ob-@topica.com>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Masters Racers at TW
How does a promoter go about guaranteeing that you will have
a field size of over 50 riders for a stage race? I'm sure
there are several promoters who would be interested in
learning how this can be done.
---------------------- Forwarded by Mark Schwyhart/PTLD/M&R
on 04/16/2001 01:01 PM ---------------------------
MIME:cmur-@teleport.com on 04/16/2001 12:04:23 PM
To: dolip-@imark-com.com @ INTERNET
cc: llsm-@veloski.com @ INTERNET , ob-@topica.com @
INTERNET (bcc: Mark Schwyhart/PTLD/M&R)
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Masters Racers at TW
David
For your info I am posting this note to you, Larry and the
entire remailer list.
I think you are drop dead wrong. You and the masters that
did not attend are the problem. Larry tried real hard to
fashion a group that would accomodate the USCF/OBRA license
differences. To do this and not require the OBRA members to
spend an extra $45 he has to have "Cat 5" riders in each
field. By being a USCF Cat 5 the rider had the choice of
buying the full meal deal or buying 3 one day memberships at
$5 apiece. Many, many, many riders took advantage of this
offer. He saved the riders an additional output of cash and
this allowed the Cat 3 OBRA riders who have never had an
OBRA license to compete within their ability level. It also
allowed the "masters' to include the Cat 5's as this was not
specified in the age criteria. Larry did this to make it
easier for the Oregonians. They responded by not attending
the masters event. The majority of Masters were from out of
state. Frankly the racing and the courses were amazing, the
organization did an improved job. You lost out because you
and your teammates choose to contest rather than compete.
Larry was looking out for you,
Candi
Larry
What can I say...as I'm sitting in my office on Friday
morning so pissed >off that I can hardly see straight
(between sips of my Starbucks Latte). >This is exactly what
I (and several cat. 1, 2 riders (old enough to race
masters) wanted to avoid at the TW.....giving you and your
crew $95 and >hedge that there would be more than 27 masters
the night before a 4x stage >road race as we contemplate
another year of racing at the TW with not >enough people.
I'm guessing that you'll have slightly over 30 racers for
this event (according to your conversation with Lance
Coffel)...which is >crazy for a stage race. Even if you had
50 racers...that's not enough for >a stage race. This is the
third year in a row....???!?!?!?! Do I need to >say more? I
truly think that this could have been handled differently.
I'd >be interested in Steve Hollands comments right about
now....
Larry if you knew me better you'd know that I'm a very nice
easy going >guy...its very unfortunate that I feel the way I
do...especially after a few of
our earlier email conversations. You might ask
yourself...'I don't need to >hear this'...well...look at it
this way...I paid $95 for the opportunity >to vent to you as
I sit in my office the day of the 1st stage...which both
Lance, myself and several other NW racers won't be
attending this year.
Sincerely
A lost customer.......(that's raced for 15 years; and
promoted for 8 years)
"Larry Smith" <llsm-@veloski.com> 04/12/01 07:40PM
27 masters and counting....there are a few Cat3/4/5's that
are old enough to
race masters...so the total may increase...plus I'm getting
lots of
inquiries about the masters field too..
cheers...
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