RE: [OBRA Chat] New Cross Crusade Masters Classes?- CORRECTIONS

BWitty

2004-09-11



I mis-typed on my original post. It indeed is Masters Men 50+ (not

55+). It was correct on the webpage, just not on my email. Sorry for any

confusion this may have caused.



Also, it appears that I unearthed yet another glitch in this Master's

category saga. Our printed flyer (which none of you have rec'd yet, but

is getting done) states that the Masters A & B categories are 30+, not

35+ like I stated yesterday. A miscue on our part. What are we going

to do? We are going to stand by our printed flyer and make the Masters

A & B categories 30+ and will change the website accordingly. Sorry for

any confusion or consternation that I may have caused with my erroneous

posting.



In conclusion, the Masters Men categories will be:

Masters Men A (30+)

Masters Men B (30+)

Masters Men 50+



Respectfully,

Club Vivo

www.crosscrusade.com







-----Original Message-----

From: B Witty [mailto:bri-@halffastvelo.com]

Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 1:12 PM

To: bende-@comcast.net; 'obra'

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] New Cross Crusade Masters Classes?



Ken et al-

You are correct. Prior to last year, the Masters cats were 35+, 45+ and

55+. Many people over the years requested that Masters not be

age-graded, but rather ability rated.



Last year, we stubbornly held onto the age-graded categories, but

changed it to 30+, 40+ and so on. The reason was two-fold: 1) At the

National Championships, there is a Masters Men 30-34 race, and we felt

like giving an opportunity to the 30+ folks among us who wanted to

prepare for that, and 2) We felt like a Masters 30+ race (racing with

the A's) would draw many riders out of the B's field (which is HUGE) and

put them into the final race of the day. It was thought that this would

balance field sizes a little bit more and help the officials score the

races. It did not work like we expected.



So, this year we decided that this year we would not cling stubbornly to

the age-graded categories. Most people like racing with people of

similar abilities, rather than just similar ages. So, its Masters A and

B (maybe in future years we'll add a Masters C). It just makes more

sense since there are varying abilities and fitness levels at all age

groups.



Why did it go back to 35+? Well, it is a widely held opinion that you

are not a masters racer at the racing age of 30. Most races in Oregon

recognize masters racers at 35+.



Thanks for reading. I hope it answered your questions.

Cheers,

Club Vivo

Cyclocross Crusade

www.crosscrusade.com



-----Original Message-----

From: Ken Benderly [mailto:bende-@comcast.net]

Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 12:37 PM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] New Cross Crusade Masters Classes?



Two years ago the Masters classes were: 35+, 45+, 55+.



Last year they were: 30+, 40+, 50+.



This year it's: 35+(cat A), 35+(cat B), 50+.



What's the deal? Why was was it changed for last year? Why didn't that



work? What is the goal for this year?



Curious,



Ken



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