RE: [OBRA Chat] Cat. 1 riders in the Portland Twilight

Schreck, George

2005-08-09



I never understand the whining about this issue. If someone is

qualified to be a Masters racer based on age, that should be sufficient.



Essentially, the whining is that these people are too good and we should

not have to compete against people who are two good. Everyone should be

mediocre so we can be competitive.



I think it is ridiculous. It is a race, and may the best man or woman

win. Frankly, I see having a good result when the best riders are not

allowed to participate to be a lesser accomplishment, and in my mind the

result deserves and asterisk.



-----Original Message-----

From: Long, Steve [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov]

Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:56 AM

To: Obra; obra-@topica.com; nwcyc-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cat. 1 riders in the Portland Twilight

Criterium Masters race.



Hip, hip hooray to that. Let those 1's race their cat status.



-----Original Message-----

From: markjgi-@yahoo.com [mailto:markjgi-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:54 AM

To: Obra; obra-@topica.com; nwcyc-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cat. 1 riders in the Portland Twilight Criterium

Masters race.



Don't worry Brad, we all love you. The rules say the promoter can define

the "Masters" category, and having defined it, it then changed which

upset some folks.



Personally, I think If someone is stil holding onto their Cat 1, they

should be racing in the top race, regardless of age. If their Ego

requires them to keep their Cat 1, they aught to be held to what that

means.



I think everyone should thank Brad for listening to their concerns and

being responsive to them.



Mark Ginsberg



--- "Cheryl J. Willson" <cjwil-@mindspring.com>

wrote:



 --- Forwarding for Brad --- Please don't reply to me

---



I guess it's possible that I'm not quite as smart as my mother always

said I was. It was a huge mistake for me to make a change to the race



 at such a late date. My motivation for making this change was simply

to make the race consistent with other masters races around the region



 where 1s are eligible to race. There are several 45+ riders who still



 have 1 on there license and I wanted them to be able to race. I

didn't know how much of a fuss it would create and now I'm changing it



 back. I have changed the website already.



Sorry for the controversy. Don't hate me, it's all just for fun

anyway.



Brad Ross

Race Director

Health Net Portland Twilight Criterium brad-@prodigy.net





Begin forwarded message:



 From: "Brad Ross" <brad-@prodigy.net>

Date: August 9, 2005 9:11:11 AM PDT

To: "'Cheryl J. Willson'"

<cjwil-@mindspring.com>

 



Cheryl,







Thanks for the help. Can you post this to OBRA?







Thanks







Brad Ross



Race Director



Cascade Cycling Classic



Portland Twilight Criterium



Cross Crusade Cyclocross Series



mobile 503.806.6943





Mark J. Ginsberg

Attorney At Law

621 SW Morrison St., Ste. 900

Portland, OR 97204

(503) 542-3000

Fax (503) 227-2530

markjgi-@yahoo.com

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