Dan Houghton

Steve, I'm a pepper spray dealer. I tried it on myself and a couple dogs
with mostly good results. It worked great on me and the dogs but seems to
have no effect on attack geese.
Check the wind conditions before firing!
If any OBRAs want this stuff, I can bring some to the Eugene swap and I'll
be 1st aid at some races. You can always contact me directly too.
Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Mullen"
To:
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray

> I'd like to hear more about pepper spray. Anyone carrying it? Have you
> used it? Then what?
> -Steven Mullen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Edward Kendrick Sr
>>Sent: Mar 3, 2006 7:10 AM
>>To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser , obra@list.obra.org
>>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>>
>>Carrying pepper spray has become a way of life for many runners &
>>cyclists. My wife doesn't leave home without it. Shoot first and ask
>>questions later. Better safe than sorry.
>>
>>Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote: I know
>>this is very fresh in your mind... but I urge you to not just look at the
>>canine animal.... the real animal was the human... report him to the
>>police... the is probably much less dangerous than that hate monger!!!!!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: G Magnus
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:24 PM
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>>
>>
>> OBRAland if you ride on NW Kaiser Rd between Springville and
>> Germantown be careful
>> I was walking my bike today as it had self destructed in the
>> 7400 blk of NW Kaiser Rd (between GermanTown and Springville) at
>> approximately 5:00pm. When a white male mid 30's, beard red/black
>> flannel shirt carrying an open Coors Light can entered the roadway from
>> his house and began yelling such profanities as "you fucking faggot
>> cyclist!" etc. etc. The male then yelled at his large St Bernard dog
>> "Adolph", "bite that fucker ya eat him!!" The dog then approached me
>> growling and trying to get behind me and attack, I kept moving away from
>> the residence while the dog continued to advance on me. The male
>> continued to yell profanities at me and encouraging his dog to attack me.
>> There was a female at the residence that was trying to call the dog back,
>> but it failed to listen. I was approximately 100 ft from the house with
>> the dog advancing at me from the middle of the street blocking all
>> vehicular traffic and unconcerned that there were vehicles in the roadway
>> when
>
>> it
>> finally gave up and went home.
>> The residence in question is a small red house on the north side of the
>> road sits back a little ways. The mail box at the roadway is very
>> distinctive as it has a set of vehicle exhaust headers painted orange and
>> green. I advise everyone to be careful of both the dog and the redneck
>> drunk male owner.
>> I will be contacting Washington County Animal Control tomm to have the
>> owner issued a citation for animal at large and hopefully an aggressive
>> animal charge. Unfortunately I don't think the owner broke any arrest
>> able laws, but be careful as I don't think he was far off from wishing to
>> fight.
>> Gregg Magnus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Hormann, Douglas J.

Pepper Spray (OC) has been, in my experience, extremely effective
against dogs. Their heightened olfactory sense is acutely sensitive to
OC and they will usually run away with tails tucked between their legs
at the slightest wiff. People on the other hand are a mixed bag and I've
known it to work well on some people and hardly at all on others,
usually when drunk or high. Since there is no telling what a methed
individual might stop at I will say, categorically, that whenever
possible you should first use your best sprint skills (then call the
police) in a situation such as what David found himself in on Kaiser Rd.

Dep. Doug Hormann, WCSO
Office of Consolidated Emergency Management
20665 SW Blanton Street, Aloha, OR 97007
503.642.0374 - Work
503.807.7485 - Mobile/Pager
112*30326*128 - Nextel DC
doug@ocem.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Ron and Dorothy Strasser
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:21 PM
To: Thomas Hoffman; 'KG'; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray

Careful with that pepper spray... we don't want to put dick cheney or
his
family through any more turmoil or rough times like he went through when
HE
shot someone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Hoffman"
To: "'KG'" ;
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray

> Cage mounts for Peeper spray! Sweeeet!
>
> I wonder if they have a special in case you go hunting with Dick
Cheney?
>
> Thomas Hoffman
> RE/MAX equity group
> 503-495-5607 Direct
> 503-475-3417 Cell
> www.tomshometeam.com
>
> XX-----Original Message-----
> XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
On
> Behalf
> XXOf KG
> XXSent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:06 AM
> XXTo: obra@list.obra.org
> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray
> XX
> XXThey even have a holder that fits in place of a bottle cage!!!
> XXhttp://www.udap.com/sprayholsters.htm#geta%20grip
> XX
> XX----- Original Message ----
> XXFrom: Keith A. Prior
> XXTo: obra@list.obra.org
> XXSent: Friday, March 3, 2006 9:36:59 AM
> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray
> XX
> XXI saw this one catalog where they offered this rather sizable can of
> pepper
> XXspray suitable for stopping bear attacks. Apparently it was the only

> kind
> XXapproved by the Fish and Wildlife Department or some government
agency
> like
> XXthat for such use.
> XX
> XXI say drunk arsehole hillbillies deserves the best!!
> XX
> XXI found a page with something that makes similar claims.
> XXLooks like this stuff could stop an entire hillbilly family!
> XX
> XXhttp://www.udap.com/Bearspecifications.htm
> XX
> XX
> XX-K
> XX
> XX
> XX-----Original Message-----
> XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
[mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
> XXBehalf Of Steven Mullen
> XXSent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:25 AM
> XXTo: obra@list.obra.org
> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray
> XX
> XX
> XXI'd like to hear more about pepper spray. Anyone carrying it? Have
you
> XXused it? Then what?
> XX-Steven Mullen.
> XX
> XX-----Original Message-----
> XX>From: Edward Kendrick Sr
> XX>Sent: Mar 3, 2006 7:10 AM
> XX>To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser ,
obra@list.obra.org
> XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
> XX>
> XX>Carrying pepper spray has become a way of life for many runners &
> cyclists.
> XXMy wife doesn't leave home without it. Shoot first and ask
questions
> later.
> XXBetter safe than sorry.
> XX>
> XX>Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote: I
know
> XXthis is very fresh in your mind... but I urge you to not just look
at
> the
> XXcanine animal.... the real animal was the human... report him to the
> XXpolice... the is probably much less dangerous than that hate
monger!!!!!
> XX> ----- Original Message -----
> XX> From: G Magnus
> XX> To: obra@list.obra.org
> XX> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:24 PM
> XX> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
> XX>
> XX>
> XX> OBRAland if you ride on NW Kaiser Rd between Springville and
> Germantown
> XXbe careful
> XX> I was walking my bike today as it had self destructed in
the
> 7400
> XXblk of NW Kaiser Rd (between GermanTown and Springville) at
> approximately
> XX5:00pm. When a white male mid 30's, beard red/black flannel shirt
> carrying
> XXan open Coors Light can entered the roadway from his house and
began
> XXyelling such profanities as "you fucking faggot cyclist!" etc. etc.
The
> XXmale then yelled at his large St Bernard dog "Adolph", "bite that
fucker
> ya
> XXeat him!!" The dog then approached me growling and trying to get
behind
> me
> XXand attack, I kept moving away from the residence while the dog
> continued
> to
> XXadvance on me. The male continued to yell profanities at me and
> encouraging
> XXhis dog to attack me. There was a female at the residence that was
> trying
> to
> XXcall the dog back, but it failed to listen. I was approximately 100
ft
> from
> XXthe house with the dog advancing at me from the middle of the street
> XXblocking all vehicular traffic and unconcerned that there were
vehicles
> in
> XXthe roadway when
> XX
> XX> it
> XX> finally gave up and went home.
> XX> The residence in question is a small red house on the north side
of
> the
> XXroad sits back a little ways. The mail box at the roadway is very
> XXdistinctive as it has a set of vehicle exhaust headers painted
orange
> and
> XXgreen. I advise everyone to be careful of both the dog and the
redneck
> XXdrunk male owner.
> XX> I will be contacting Washington County Animal Control tomm to
have
> the
> XXowner issued a citation for animal at large and hopefully an
aggressive
> XXanimal charge. Unfortunately I don't think the owner broke any
arrest
> able
> XXlaws, but be careful as I don't think he was far off from wishing to
> fight.
> XX> Gregg Magnus
> XX>
> XX>
> XX>
> XX>
> XX>
> XX>
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Ron and Dorothy Strasser

Careful with that pepper spray... we don't want to put dick cheney or his
family through any more turmoil or rough times like he went through when HE
shot someone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Hoffman"
To: "'KG'" ;
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray

> Cage mounts for Peeper spray! Sweeeet!
>
> I wonder if they have a special in case you go hunting with Dick Cheney?
>
> Thomas Hoffman
> RE/MAX equity group
> 503-495-5607 Direct
> 503-475-3417 Cell
> www.tomshometeam.com
>
> XX-----Original Message-----
> XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf
> XXOf KG
> XXSent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:06 AM
> XXTo: obra@list.obra.org
> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray
> XX
> XXThey even have a holder that fits in place of a bottle cage!!!
> XXhttp://www.udap.com/sprayholsters.htm#geta%20grip
> XX
> XX----- Original Message ----
> XXFrom: Keith A. Prior
> XXTo: obra@list.obra.org
> XXSent: Friday, March 3, 2006 9:36:59 AM
> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray
> XX
> XXI saw this one catalog where they offered this rather sizable can of
> pepper
> XXspray suitable for stopping bear attacks. Apparently it was the only
> kind
> XXapproved by the Fish and Wildlife Department or some government agency
> like
> XXthat for such use.
> XX
> XXI say drunk arsehole hillbillies deserves the best!!
> XX
> XXI found a page with something that makes similar claims.
> XXLooks like this stuff could stop an entire hillbilly family!
> XX
> XXhttp://www.udap.com/Bearspecifications.htm
> XX
> XX
> XX-K
> XX
> XX
> XX-----Original Message-----
> XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
> XXBehalf Of Steven Mullen
> XXSent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:25 AM
> XXTo: obra@list.obra.org
> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray
> XX
> XX
> XXI'd like to hear more about pepper spray. Anyone carrying it? Have you
> XXused it? Then what?
> XX-Steven Mullen.
> XX
> XX-----Original Message-----
> XX>From: Edward Kendrick Sr
> XX>Sent: Mar 3, 2006 7:10 AM
> XX>To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser , obra@list.obra.org
> XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
> XX>
> XX>Carrying pepper spray has become a way of life for many runners &
> cyclists.
> XXMy wife doesn't leave home without it. Shoot first and ask questions
> later.
> XXBetter safe than sorry.
> XX>
> XX>Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote: I know
> XXthis is very fresh in your mind... but I urge you to not just look at
> the
> XXcanine animal.... the real animal was the human... report him to the
> XXpolice... the is probably much less dangerous than that hate monger!!!!!
> XX> ----- Original Message -----
> XX> From: G Magnus
> XX> To: obra@list.obra.org
> XX> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:24 PM
> XX> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
> XX>
> XX>
> XX> OBRAland if you ride on NW Kaiser Rd between Springville and
> Germantown
> XXbe careful
> XX> I was walking my bike today as it had self destructed in the
> 7400
> XXblk of NW Kaiser Rd (between GermanTown and Springville) at
> approximately
> XX5:00pm. When a white male mid 30's, beard red/black flannel shirt
> carrying
> XXan open Coors Light can entered the roadway from his house and began
> XXyelling such profanities as "you fucking faggot cyclist!" etc. etc. The
> XXmale then yelled at his large St Bernard dog "Adolph", "bite that fucker
> ya
> XXeat him!!" The dog then approached me growling and trying to get behind
> me
> XXand attack, I kept moving away from the residence while the dog
> continued
> to
> XXadvance on me. The male continued to yell profanities at me and
> encouraging
> XXhis dog to attack me. There was a female at the residence that was
> trying
> to
> XXcall the dog back, but it failed to listen. I was approximately 100 ft
> from
> XXthe house with the dog advancing at me from the middle of the street
> XXblocking all vehicular traffic and unconcerned that there were vehicles
> in
> XXthe roadway when
> XX
> XX> it
> XX> finally gave up and went home.
> XX> The residence in question is a small red house on the north side of
> the
> XXroad sits back a little ways. The mail box at the roadway is very
> XXdistinctive as it has a set of vehicle exhaust headers painted orange
> and
> XXgreen. I advise everyone to be careful of both the dog and the redneck
> XXdrunk male owner.
> XX> I will be contacting Washington County Animal Control tomm to have
> the
> XXowner issued a citation for animal at large and hopefully an aggressive
> XXanimal charge. Unfortunately I don't think the owner broke any arrest
> able
> XXlaws, but be careful as I don't think he was far off from wishing to
> fight.
> XX> Gregg Magnus
> XX>
> XX>
> XX>
> XX>
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Jay Rideout

I haven't read the entire string on this, but isn't
sicking an animal towards a person a form of assault?
felony?
Jay

--- Ray Thomas wrote:

> I think when you call Wa Co on that guy you should
> also tell them you want
> to prosecute the guy for Reckless Endangerment.
> There is a biker Deputy DA
> in Wa Co DA's office and I will volunteer to put you
> in touch with him; my
> number 503 704-2133. Ray THomas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Steven Mullen
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:25 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray
>
> I'd like to hear more about pepper spray. Anyone
> carrying it? Have you
> used it? Then what?
> -Steven Mullen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Edward Kendrick Sr
>
> >Sent: Mar 3, 2006 7:10 AM
> >To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser
> , obra@list.obra.org
> >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser
> Rd
> >
> >Carrying pepper spray has become a way of life for
> many runners & cyclists.
> My wife doesn't leave home without it. Shoot first
> and ask questions later.
> Better safe than sorry.
> >
> >Ron and Dorothy Strasser
> wrote: I know
> this is very fresh in your mind... but I urge you to
> not just look at the
> canine animal.... the real animal was the human...
> report him to the
> police... the is probably much less dangerous than
> that hate monger!!!!!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: G Magnus
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:24 PM
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
> >
> >
> > OBRAland if you ride on NW Kaiser Rd between
> Springville and Germantown
> be careful
> > I was walking my bike today as it had
> self destructed in the 7400
> blk of NW Kaiser Rd (between GermanTown and
> Springville) at approximately
> 5:00pm. When a white male mid 30's, beard red/black
> flannel shirt carrying
> an open Coors Light can entered the roadway from
> his house and began
> yelling such profanities as "you fucking faggot
> cyclist!" etc. etc. The
> male then yelled at his large St Bernard dog
> "Adolph", "bite that fucker ya
> eat him!!" The dog then approached me growling and
> trying to get behind me
> and attack, I kept moving away from the residence
> while the dog continued to
> advance on me. The male continued to yell
> profanities at me and encouraging
> his dog to attack me. There was a female at the
> residence that was trying to
> call the dog back, but it failed to listen. I was
> approximately 100 ft from
> the house with the dog advancing at me from the
> middle of the street
> blocking all vehicular traffic and unconcerned that
> there were vehicles in
> the roadway when
>
> > it
> > finally gave up and went home.
> > The residence in question is a small red house on
> the north side of the
> road sits back a little ways. The mail box at the
> roadway is very
> distinctive as it has a set of vehicle exhaust
> headers painted orange and
> green. I advise everyone to be careful of both the
> dog and the redneck
> drunk male owner.
> > I will be contacting Washington County Animal
> Control tomm to have the
> owner issued a citation for animal at large and
> hopefully an aggressive
> animal charge. Unfortunately I don't think the
> owner broke any arrest able
> laws, but be careful as I don't think he was far off
> from wishing to fight.
> > Gregg Magnus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> > Learn how to better protect yourself with MSN
> Hotmail
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Cage mounts for Peeper spray! Sweeeet!

I wonder if they have a special in case you go hunting with Dick Cheney?

Thomas Hoffman
RE/MAX equity group
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503-475-3417 Cell
www.tomshometeam.com

XX-----Original Message-----
XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf
XXOf KG
XXSent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:06 AM
XXTo: obra@list.obra.org
XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray
XX
XXThey even have a holder that fits in place of a bottle cage!!!
XXhttp://www.udap.com/sprayholsters.htm#geta%20grip
XX
XX----- Original Message ----
XXFrom: Keith A. Prior
XXTo: obra@list.obra.org
XXSent: Friday, March 3, 2006 9:36:59 AM
XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray
XX
XXI saw this one catalog where they offered this rather sizable can of
pepper
XXspray suitable for stopping bear attacks. Apparently it was the only kind
XXapproved by the Fish and Wildlife Department or some government agency
like
XXthat for such use.
XX
XXI say drunk arsehole hillbillies deserves the best!!
XX
XXI found a page with something that makes similar claims.
XXLooks like this stuff could stop an entire hillbilly family!
XX
XXhttp://www.udap.com/Bearspecifications.htm
XX
XX
XX-K
XX
XX
XX-----Original Message-----
XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
XXBehalf Of Steven Mullen
XXSent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:25 AM
XXTo: obra@list.obra.org
XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray
XX
XX
XXI'd like to hear more about pepper spray. Anyone carrying it? Have you
XXused it? Then what?
XX-Steven Mullen.
XX
XX-----Original Message-----
XX>From: Edward Kendrick Sr
XX>Sent: Mar 3, 2006 7:10 AM
XX>To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser , obra@list.obra.org
XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
XX>
XX>Carrying pepper spray has become a way of life for many runners &
cyclists.
XXMy wife doesn't leave home without it. Shoot first and ask questions
later.
XXBetter safe than sorry.
XX>
XX>Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote: I know
XXthis is very fresh in your mind... but I urge you to not just look at the
XXcanine animal.... the real animal was the human... report him to the
XXpolice... the is probably much less dangerous than that hate monger!!!!!
XX> ----- Original Message -----
XX> From: G Magnus
XX> To: obra@list.obra.org
XX> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:24 PM
XX> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
XX>
XX>
XX> OBRAland if you ride on NW Kaiser Rd between Springville and
Germantown
XXbe careful
XX> I was walking my bike today as it had self destructed in the
7400
XXblk of NW Kaiser Rd (between GermanTown and Springville) at approximately
XX5:00pm. When a white male mid 30's, beard red/black flannel shirt
carrying
XXan open Coors Light can entered the roadway from his house and began
XXyelling such profanities as "you fucking faggot cyclist!" etc. etc. The
XXmale then yelled at his large St Bernard dog "Adolph", "bite that fucker
ya
XXeat him!!" The dog then approached me growling and trying to get behind
me
XXand attack, I kept moving away from the residence while the dog continued
to
XXadvance on me. The male continued to yell profanities at me and
encouraging
XXhis dog to attack me. There was a female at the residence that was trying
to
XXcall the dog back, but it failed to listen. I was approximately 100 ft
from
XXthe house with the dog advancing at me from the middle of the street
XXblocking all vehicular traffic and unconcerned that there were vehicles in
XXthe roadway when
XX
XX> it
XX> finally gave up and went home.
XX> The residence in question is a small red house on the north side of the
XXroad sits back a little ways. The mail box at the roadway is very
XXdistinctive as it has a set of vehicle exhaust headers painted orange and
XXgreen. I advise everyone to be careful of both the dog and the redneck
XXdrunk male owner.
XX> I will be contacting Washington County Animal Control tomm to have the
XXowner issued a citation for animal at large and hopefully an aggressive
XXanimal charge. Unfortunately I don't think the owner broke any arrest
able
XXlaws, but be careful as I don't think he was far off from wishing to
fight.
XX> Gregg Magnus
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I think when you call Wa Co on that guy you should also tell them you want
to prosecute the guy for Reckless Endangerment. There is a biker Deputy DA
in Wa Co DA's office and I will volunteer to put you in touch with him; my
number 503 704-2133. Ray THomas

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Steven Mullen
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:25 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray

I'd like to hear more about pepper spray. Anyone carrying it? Have you
used it? Then what?
-Steven Mullen.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Edward Kendrick Sr
>Sent: Mar 3, 2006 7:10 AM
>To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser , obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>
>Carrying pepper spray has become a way of life for many runners & cyclists.
My wife doesn't leave home without it. Shoot first and ask questions later.
Better safe than sorry.
>
>Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote: I know
this is very fresh in your mind... but I urge you to not just look at the
canine animal.... the real animal was the human... report him to the
police... the is probably much less dangerous than that hate monger!!!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: G Magnus
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:24 PM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>
>
> OBRAland if you ride on NW Kaiser Rd between Springville and Germantown
be careful
> I was walking my bike today as it had self destructed in the 7400
blk of NW Kaiser Rd (between GermanTown and Springville) at approximately
5:00pm. When a white male mid 30's, beard red/black flannel shirt carrying
an open Coors Light can entered the roadway from his house and began
yelling such profanities as "you fucking faggot cyclist!" etc. etc. The
male then yelled at his large St Bernard dog "Adolph", "bite that fucker ya
eat him!!" The dog then approached me growling and trying to get behind me
and attack, I kept moving away from the residence while the dog continued to
advance on me. The male continued to yell profanities at me and encouraging
his dog to attack me. There was a female at the residence that was trying to
call the dog back, but it failed to listen. I was approximately 100 ft from
the house with the dog advancing at me from the middle of the street
blocking all vehicular traffic and unconcerned that there were vehicles in
the roadway when

> it
> finally gave up and went home.
> The residence in question is a small red house on the north side of the
road sits back a little ways. The mail box at the roadway is very
distinctive as it has a set of vehicle exhaust headers painted orange and
green. I advise everyone to be careful of both the dog and the redneck
drunk male owner.
> I will be contacting Washington County Animal Control tomm to have the
owner issued a citation for animal at large and hopefully an aggressive
animal charge. Unfortunately I don't think the owner broke any arrest able
laws, but be careful as I don't think he was far off from wishing to fight.
> Gregg Magnus
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KG

They even have a holder that fits in place of a bottle cage!!!
http://www.udap.com/sprayholsters.htm#geta%20grip

----- Original Message ----
From: Keith A. Prior
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2006 9:36:59 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray

I saw this one catalog where they offered this rather sizable can of pepper
spray suitable for stopping bear attacks. Apparently it was the only kind
approved by the Fish and Wildlife Department or some government agency like
that for such use.

I say drunk arsehole hillbillies deserves the best!!

I found a page with something that makes similar claims.
Looks like this stuff could stop an entire hillbilly family!

http://www.udap.com/Bearspecifications.htm

-K

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
Behalf Of Steven Mullen
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:25 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray

I'd like to hear more about pepper spray. Anyone carrying it? Have you
used it? Then what?
-Steven Mullen.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Edward Kendrick Sr
>Sent: Mar 3, 2006 7:10 AM
>To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser , obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>
>Carrying pepper spray has become a way of life for many runners & cyclists.
My wife doesn't leave home without it. Shoot first and ask questions later.
Better safe than sorry.
>
>Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote: I know
this is very fresh in your mind... but I urge you to not just look at the
canine animal.... the real animal was the human... report him to the
police... the is probably much less dangerous than that hate monger!!!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: G Magnus
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:24 PM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>
>
> OBRAland if you ride on NW Kaiser Rd between Springville and Germantown
be careful
> I was walking my bike today as it had self destructed in the 7400
blk of NW Kaiser Rd (between GermanTown and Springville) at approximately
5:00pm. When a white male mid 30's, beard red/black flannel shirt carrying
an open Coors Light can entered the roadway from his house and began
yelling such profanities as "you fucking faggot cyclist!" etc. etc. The
male then yelled at his large St Bernard dog "Adolph", "bite that fucker ya
eat him!!" The dog then approached me growling and trying to get behind me
and attack, I kept moving away from the residence while the dog continued to
advance on me. The male continued to yell profanities at me and encouraging
his dog to attack me. There was a female at the residence that was trying to
call the dog back, but it failed to listen. I was approximately 100 ft from
the house with the dog advancing at me from the middle of the street
blocking all vehicular traffic and unconcerned that there were vehicles in
the roadway when

> it
> finally gave up and went home.
> The residence in question is a small red house on the north side of the
road sits back a little ways. The mail box at the roadway is very
distinctive as it has a set of vehicle exhaust headers painted orange and
green. I advise everyone to be careful of both the dog and the redneck
drunk male owner.
> I will be contacting Washington County Animal Control tomm to have the
owner issued a citation for animal at large and hopefully an aggressive
animal charge. Unfortunately I don't think the owner broke any arrest able
laws, but be careful as I don't think he was far off from wishing to fight.
> Gregg Magnus
>
>
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>
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Edward Kendrick Sr

I've ridden and run in many places and a few countries, so some folks think that I am a hillbilly. When you actually pepper spray somebody's dog, they may think that you are an asshole. We can live with that, because aggressive animals are a threat. We ignor any negative feedback, because we have a right to defend ourselves. Don't second guess yourself. When threatened, shoot straight and fast. The next time you see this dog, she will probably avoid you.

There are several sizes, intensities, and brands. I usually like a mid range intensity, that can be used several times. Do a test run. Some of the spray may hit you too, so be aware. Bi-Mart caries a good spray for a fair price at the gun counter. In other states, this may be more difficut to find. Try K-Mart.

In the "thinner" states, it's easier to find. Go figure?

"Keith A. Prior" wrote:
I saw this one catalog where they offered this rather sizable can of pepper
spray suitable for stopping bear attacks. Apparently it was the only kind
approved by the Fish and Wildlife Department or some government agency like
that for such use.

I say drunk arsehole hillbillies deserves the best!!

I found a page with something that makes similar claims.
Looks like this stuff could stop an entire hillbilly family!

http://www.udap.com/Bearspecifications.htm

-K

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
Behalf Of Steven Mullen
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:25 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray

I'd like to hear more about pepper spray. Anyone carrying it? Have you
used it? Then what?
-Steven Mullen.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Edward Kendrick Sr
>Sent: Mar 3, 2006 7:10 AM
>To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser , obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>
>Carrying pepper spray has become a way of life for many runners & cyclists.
My wife doesn't leave home without it. Shoot first and ask questions later.
Better safe than sorry.
>
>Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote: I know
this is very fresh in your mind... but I urge you to not just look at the
canine animal.... the real animal was the human... report him to the
police... the is probably much less dangerous than that hate monger!!!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: G Magnus
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:24 PM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>
>
> OBRAland if you ride on NW Kaiser Rd between Springville and Germantown
be careful
> I was walking my bike today as it had self destructed in the 7400
blk of NW Kaiser Rd (between GermanTown and Springville) at approximately
5:00pm. When a white male mid 30's, beard red/black flannel shirt carrying
an open Coors Light can entered the roadway from his house and began
yelling such profanities as "you fucking faggot cyclist!" etc. etc. The
male then yelled at his large St Bernard dog "Adolph", "bite that fucker ya
eat him!!" The dog then approached me growling and trying to get behind me
and attack, I kept moving away from the residence while the dog continued to
advance on me. The male continued to yell profanities at me and encouraging
his dog to attack me. There was a female at the residence that was trying to
call the dog back, but it failed to listen. I was approximately 100 ft from
the house with the dog advancing at me from the middle of the street
blocking all vehicular traffic and unconcerned that there were vehicles in
the roadway when

> it
> finally gave up and went home.
> The residence in question is a small red house on the north side of the
road sits back a little ways. The mail box at the roadway is very
distinctive as it has a set of vehicle exhaust headers painted orange and
green. I advise everyone to be careful of both the dog and the redneck
drunk male owner.
> I will be contacting Washington County Animal Control tomm to have the
owner issued a citation for animal at large and hopefully an aggressive
animal charge. Unfortunately I don't think the owner broke any arrest able
laws, but be careful as I don't think he was far off from wishing to fight.
> Gregg Magnus
>
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I saw this one catalog where they offered this rather sizable can of pepper
spray suitable for stopping bear attacks. Apparently it was the only kind
approved by the Fish and Wildlife Department or some government agency like
that for such use.

I say drunk arsehole hillbillies deserves the best!!

I found a page with something that makes similar claims.
Looks like this stuff could stop an entire hillbilly family!

http://www.udap.com/Bearspecifications.htm

-K

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
Behalf Of Steven Mullen
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:25 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] pepper spray

I'd like to hear more about pepper spray. Anyone carrying it? Have you
used it? Then what?
-Steven Mullen.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Edward Kendrick Sr
>Sent: Mar 3, 2006 7:10 AM
>To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser , obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>
>Carrying pepper spray has become a way of life for many runners & cyclists.
My wife doesn't leave home without it. Shoot first and ask questions later.
Better safe than sorry.
>
>Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote: I know
this is very fresh in your mind... but I urge you to not just look at the
canine animal.... the real animal was the human... report him to the
police... the is probably much less dangerous than that hate monger!!!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: G Magnus
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:24 PM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>
>
> OBRAland if you ride on NW Kaiser Rd between Springville and Germantown
be careful
> I was walking my bike today as it had self destructed in the 7400
blk of NW Kaiser Rd (between GermanTown and Springville) at approximately
5:00pm. When a white male mid 30's, beard red/black flannel shirt carrying
an open Coors Light can entered the roadway from his house and began
yelling such profanities as "you fucking faggot cyclist!" etc. etc. The
male then yelled at his large St Bernard dog "Adolph", "bite that fucker ya
eat him!!" The dog then approached me growling and trying to get behind me
and attack, I kept moving away from the residence while the dog continued to
advance on me. The male continued to yell profanities at me and encouraging
his dog to attack me. There was a female at the residence that was trying to
call the dog back, but it failed to listen. I was approximately 100 ft from
the house with the dog advancing at me from the middle of the street
blocking all vehicular traffic and unconcerned that there were vehicles in
the roadway when

> it
> finally gave up and went home.
> The residence in question is a small red house on the north side of the
road sits back a little ways. The mail box at the roadway is very
distinctive as it has a set of vehicle exhaust headers painted orange and
green. I advise everyone to be careful of both the dog and the redneck
drunk male owner.
> I will be contacting Washington County Animal Control tomm to have the
owner issued a citation for animal at large and hopefully an aggressive
animal charge. Unfortunately I don't think the owner broke any arrest able
laws, but be careful as I don't think he was far off from wishing to fight.
> Gregg Magnus
>
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I'd like to hear more about pepper spray. Anyone carrying it? Have you used it? Then what?
-Steven Mullen.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Edward Kendrick Sr
>Sent: Mar 3, 2006 7:10 AM
>To: Ron and Dorothy Strasser , obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>
>Carrying pepper spray has become a way of life for many runners & cyclists. My wife doesn't leave home without it. Shoot first and ask questions later. Better safe than sorry.
>
>Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote: I know this is very fresh in your mind... but I urge you to not just look at the canine animal.... the real animal was the human... report him to the police... the is probably much less dangerous than that hate monger!!!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: G Magnus
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:24 PM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist safety NW Kaiser Rd
>
>
> OBRAland if you ride on NW Kaiser Rd between Springville and Germantown be careful
> I was walking my bike today as it had self destructed in the 7400 blk of NW Kaiser Rd (between GermanTown and Springville) at approximately 5:00pm. When a white male mid 30's, beard red/black flannel shirt carrying an open Coors Light can entered the roadway from his house and began yelling such profanities as "you fucking faggot cyclist!" etc. etc. The male then yelled at his large St Bernard dog "Adolph", "bite that fucker ya eat him!!" The dog then approached me growling and trying to get behind me and attack, I kept moving away from the residence while the dog continued to advance on me. The male continued to yell profanities at me and encouraging his dog to attack me. There was a female at the residence that was trying to call the dog back, but it failed to listen. I was approximately 100 ft from the house with the dog advancing at me from the middle of the street blocking all vehicular traffic and unconcerned that there were vehicles in the roadway when

> it
> finally gave up and went home.
> The residence in question is a small red house on the north side of the road sits back a little ways. The mail box at the roadway is very distinctive as it has a set of vehicle exhaust headers painted orange and green. I advise everyone to be careful of both the dog and the redneck drunk male owner.
> I will be contacting Washington County Animal Control tomm to have the owner issued a citation for animal at large and hopefully an aggressive animal charge. Unfortunately I don't think the owner broke any arrest able laws, but be careful as I don't think he was far off from wishing to fight.
> Gregg Magnus
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