Ritchey Break Away Bike

Nate Sweet

2006-03-10

Co-Motion makes a great travel bike. I have had an Espresso Co-Pilot
for

http://www.co-motion.com/espresso.html

several years and it is great. It packs easily, in a case that is
within specs. for a normal piece of luggage. On all of my trips via
airplane, no extra fee was paid for the item and no injury occurred to
the bike.

Co-Motion makes at least 3 travel frames (single rider). Check out
their website and even stop in at the shop in Eugene. Besides making
great bikes, they are very nice people.

-Nate

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of veloboy366@netzero.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:07 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike

Hey OBRA,
Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break
Away bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet.
I'm wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I
think I saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think
of the design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how
is traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a
large suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like
normal luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got
a bike on the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my
first visit down to my brothers place in California. After seeing the
terrain I've decided that there is no way I'm going back without a bike.
If I'm going to make more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike
like this starts making sense. Any info or tips would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian

ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
veloboy366@verizon.net

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Mike Murray

2006-03-09

Mine have always been opened by TSA well after they disappeared from my
sight. I always pack with the printed out instructions for packing on top
of everything else. I figure that will at least help them get it closed
assuming they can read and are willing to do so. Actually, since there are
pictures of the process they don't even have to be able to read. So far so
good.

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Schreck, George
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 08:32 AM
To: Randy Lewandowski; veloboy366@netzero.net
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike

I have a bike with S&S couplers, and I did not have any problem until a
curbside baggage handler asked me what I had inside, and when I told him, he
said I should not have told him it was a bike and he tried to charge me.
After a rather heated exchange, I took the bicycle inside an checked it at
the counter without incident.


The only disadvantage is that when it goes through screening, they always
open it, and after sifting through the contents, sometimes they cannot close
it. As a result, you need to watch while they open it to give instructions
if they have trouble trying to close it. they will not let you touch the
bike, but they will allow you to shout some helpful advice. Nevertheless,
traveling with one of these is not as easy as you would think given the
terrorism fears and the fact that they are always going to open a case when
x-ray shows that has a lot of wires and pipes inside.

_____

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Lewandowski
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:34 AM
To: veloboy366@netzero.net
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike

Brian,
If it looks like luggage I don't think most airlines are going to ask you
what's inside. They only really ask when you are checking over sized or
overweight items. If really want to tell them that you have a bike in your
suitcase go ahead and you might end up paying the extra fee, which is around
100.00.

BTW, I used to work for one of the big air carriers

Randy Lewandowski

On 3/9/06, veloboy366@netzero.net
wrote:

Hey OBRA,
Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break Away
bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet. I'm
wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I think I
saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think of the
design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how is
traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a large
suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like normal
luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got a bike on
the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my first visit down
to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain I've decided
that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm going to make
more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this starts making
sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian

ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
veloboy366@verizon.net

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Augusto Carneiro

2006-03-09

When we held the Mt.Biking-Coffee tour in Brazil last year in November
everyone had large boxes - I had a trico - and no one got charged. I called
ahead of time and found out that in an International flight, you can take a
bike as long as it is one of your two allowed pieces of luggage. The weight
limit in international flight has been reduced from 70Lbs per suitcase to
50Lbs, so they may ding you for that. Some of the folks that took full
suspension bikes and put all their accessories and shoes on the box were at
about 60lbs.

Augusto

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Lewandowski
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:34 AM
To: joec@aracnet.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org; Schreck, George
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike

On NWA I've gotten away a few times on telling them that it's an antic bike,
totally un-rideable. You need to do this with a straight face and do not
back down.

I've also gotten by a few times telling that it's a bike and that since it's
under the size and weight restriction that they cannot charge me.

Randy Lewandowski

On 3/9/06, Joe Cipale wrote:

As a follow on to George's post: When I have traveled with my bike, I have
traditionally used a Trico case and had mixed repsonse from airlines.
Alaska - PDX billed me for the bike at $50.00 one-way
San Jose/Seattle weighed the case. Since the weight was less than
35 lb, they said it could go through free.

Delta - The most expensive at $90.00 one-way to Miami/Ft Lauderdale (with a
change of planes in Dallas-Ft Worth).

United - $100.00 roundtrip to LA

Southwest - The worst at $100.00 one way to Phoenix.

Delta/TWA to Israel - Dont ask... And this was before 9/11. Lets just say
the
were not the least bit interested and mde the price pretty
exorbitant. Around $200.00 one way, IIR.

Some airlines were pretty flexible. Others tend to be pretty strict. Many
that I have dealt with (US Air, TWA, United) are no longer in business to
the extent they once were.

Joe

Schreck, George wrote:

> The SS case is essentially a piece of Samsonite luggage so it fits
> within the guidelines, although it makes it a bit tighter fit. The case
> comes in two sizes, and I recommend the larger size unless you have a
> very small bicycle with 650 wheels. My bike is a carbon fiber Calfee
> cross bike, and I find that I can set it up in about 15 to 20 minutes,
> and it has never been damages due to the hard case and the fact that S&S
> also includes struts to put inside to further prevent the case from
> being collapsed.
>
> The only issues that I have had are with security opening it, which I
> described in my previous post.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Murray
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:27 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike
>
> I do have one. I am generally pleased with it. I have traveled with it
> twice. The airlines have given me no flack despite the fact that the
> case
> is just slightly over the size limit and has a rather weird "bubble" on
> the
> side. It is easier to travel with then a regular bike in a case because
> you
> can carry it like a suitcase rather than drag a big bike box through
> crowded
> airports, on to shuttle busses, etc. The downside is that packing and
> unpacking the bike is somewhat more complicated compared to a regular
> bike
> in a case. The Breakaway design is solid. Once assembled it rides just
> like
> any other steel bike. S&S couple will do the same thing and there are
> more
> options for builders, bike types, etc. They are slightly heavier and
> more
> obvious on the bike but the performance difference should be minimal.
> The
> S&S case is better than the Breakaway case. S&S has 2; a hard case and
> a
> soft case/back pack. The hard case looks just like a suitcase and has
> wheels which are very handy. Candi has one because they don't make a
> Breakaway small enough for her. I have not used or seen the S&S
> backpack
> case. The Breakaway case is soft sided, has no wheels and has side
> stiffeners that tend to separate making packing a bit difficult. It
> shows a
> fair amount of wear and tear after only 2 plane trips so it may have a
> limited life span. It does fold up so it will store in a smaller space
> than
> a hard case. The other down side to the Ritchey is that the paint job
> is
> pretty marginal. The paint chips and cracks easily. There were chips
> around
> the joints from day one. The price for the Ritchey is slightly less then
> an
> S&S bike in general, at least when we bought ours.
>
> Let me know if you need any more info.
>
> Mike Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of veloboy366@netzero.net
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 22:07 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike
>
>
> Hey OBRA,
> Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break
> Away
> bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet. I'm
> wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I
> think I
> saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think of the
> design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how is
> traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a large
> suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like normal
> luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got a bike
> on
> the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my first visit
> down
> to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain I've
> decided
> that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm going to
> make
> more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this starts
> making
> sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
> ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
> veloboy366@verizon.net

>
>
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Schreck, George

2006-03-09

I have tried the same thing regarding the size and weight and some
airlines agree. Others argue that the extra charge is due to the
frequent damage issues, which I try to point out is their fault not
mine. Nevertheless, you always get into these arguments when it is too
late to change your plans and the airlines know this. These days, given
the losses the airlines are incurring, they are looking for revenue in
every area.

Still, as a general rule, the breakaway and S&S bikes generally get
through and are worth the purchase if you travel with a bicycle, but a
hard case is a must if you want to be able to ride the bicycle when you
arrive.

________________________________

From: Randy Lewandowski [mailto:randylewandowski@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:34 AM
To: joec@aracnet.com
Cc: Schreck, George; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike

On NWA I've gotten away a few times on telling them that it's an antic
bike, totally un-rideable. You need to do this with a straight face and
do not back down.

I've also gotten by a few times telling that it's a bike and that since
it's under the size and weight restriction that they cannot charge me.

Randy Lewandowski

On 3/9/06, Joe Cipale wrote:

As a follow on to George's post: When I have traveled with my
bike, I have traditionally used a Trico case and had mixed repsonse from
airlines.
Alaska - PDX billed me for the bike at $50.00 one-way
San Jose/Seattle weighed the case. Since the weight was
less than
35 lb, they said it could go through free.

Delta - The most expensive at $90.00 one-way to Miami/Ft
Lauderdale (with a
change of planes in Dallas-Ft Worth).

United - $100.00 roundtrip to LA

Southwest - The worst at $100.00 one way to Phoenix.

Delta/TWA to Israel - Dont ask... And this was before 9/11. Lets
just say the
were not the least bit interested and mde the price
pretty
exorbitant. Around $200.00 one way, IIR.

Some airlines were pretty flexible. Others tend to be pretty
strict. Many
that I have dealt with (US Air, TWA, United) are no longer in
business to
the extent they once were.

Joe

Schreck, George wrote:

> The SS case is essentially a piece of Samsonite luggage so it
fits
> within the guidelines, although it makes it a bit tighter fit.
The case
> comes in two sizes, and I recommend the larger size unless you
have a
> very small bicycle with 650 wheels. My bike is a carbon fiber
Calfee
> cross bike, and I find that I can set it up in about 15 to 20
minutes,
> and it has never been damages due to the hard case and the
fact that S&S
> also includes struts to put inside to further prevent the case
from
> being collapsed.
>
> The only issues that I have had are with security opening it,
which I
> described in my previous post.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
[mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Murray
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:27 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike
>
> I do have one. I am generally pleased with it. I have
traveled with it
> twice. The airlines have given me no flack despite the fact
that the
> case
> is just slightly over the size limit and has a rather weird
"bubble" on
> the
> side. It is easier to travel with then a regular bike in a
case because
> you
> can carry it like a suitcase rather than drag a big bike box
through
> crowded
> airports, on to shuttle busses, etc. The downside is that
packing and
> unpacking the bike is somewhat more complicated compared to a
regular
> bike
> in a case. The Breakaway design is solid. Once assembled it
rides just
> like
> any other steel bike. S&S couple will do the same thing and
there are
> more
> options for builders, bike types, etc. They are slightly
heavier and
> more
> obvious on the bike but the performance difference should be
minimal.
> The
> S&S case is better than the Breakaway case. S&S has 2; a hard
case and
> a
> soft case/back pack. The hard case looks just like a suitcase
and has
> wheels which are very handy. Candi has one because they don't
make a
> Breakaway small enough for her. I have not used or seen the
S&S
> backpack
> case. The Breakaway case is soft sided, has no wheels and has
side
> stiffeners that tend to separate making packing a bit
difficult. It
> shows a
> fair amount of wear and tear after only 2 plane trips so it
may have a
> limited life span. It does fold up so it will store in a
smaller space
> than
> a hard case. The other down side to the Ritchey is that the
paint job
> is
> pretty marginal. The paint chips and cracks easily. There
were chips
> around
> the joints from day one. The price for the Ritchey is slightly
less then
> an
> S&S bike in general, at least when we bought ours.
>
> Let me know if you need any more info.
>
> Mike Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
[mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of veloboy366@netzero.net
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 22:07 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike
>
>
> Hey OBRA,
> Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's
Break
> Away
> bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty
sweet. I'm
> wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away
bikes (I
> think I
> saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think
of the
> design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly,
how is
> traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size
of a large
> suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like
normal
> luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still
got a bike
> on
> the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my
first visit
> down
> to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain
I've
> decided
> that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm
going to
> make
> more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this
starts
> making
> sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
> ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
> veloboy366@verizon.net
>
>
>
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Randy Lewandowski

2006-03-09

On NWA I've gotten away a few times on telling them that it's an antic bike,
totally un-rideable. You need to do this with a straight face and do not
back down.

I've also gotten by a few times telling that it's a bike and that since it's
under the size and weight restriction that they cannot charge me.

Randy Lewandowski

On 3/9/06, Joe Cipale wrote:
>
> As a follow on to George's post: When I have traveled with my bike, I have
> traditionally used a Trico case and had mixed repsonse from airlines.
> Alaska - PDX billed me for the bike at $50.00 one-way
> San Jose/Seattle weighed the case. Since the weight was less than
> 35 lb, they said it could go through free.
>
> Delta - The most expensive at $90.00 one-way to Miami/Ft Lauderdale (with
> a
> change of planes in Dallas-Ft Worth).
>
> United - $100.00 roundtrip to LA
>
> Southwest - The worst at $100.00 one way to Phoenix.
>
> Delta/TWA to Israel - Dont ask... And this was before 9/11. Lets just say
> the
> were not the least bit interested and mde the price pretty
> exorbitant. Around $200.00 one way, IIR.
>
> Some airlines were pretty flexible. Others tend to be pretty strict. Many
> that I have dealt with (US Air, TWA, United) are no longer in business to
> the extent they once were.
>
> Joe
>
> Schreck, George wrote:
>
> > The SS case is essentially a piece of Samsonite luggage so it fits
> > within the guidelines, although it makes it a bit tighter fit. The case
> > comes in two sizes, and I recommend the larger size unless you have a
> > very small bicycle with 650 wheels. My bike is a carbon fiber Calfee
> > cross bike, and I find that I can set it up in about 15 to 20 minutes,
> > and it has never been damages due to the hard case and the fact that S&S
> > also includes struts to put inside to further prevent the case from
> > being collapsed.
> >
> > The only issues that I have had are with security opening it, which I
> > described in my previous post.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of Mike Murray
> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:27 AM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike
> >
> > I do have one. I am generally pleased with it. I have traveled with it
> > twice. The airlines have given me no flack despite the fact that the
> > case
> > is just slightly over the size limit and has a rather weird "bubble" on
> > the
> > side. It is easier to travel with then a regular bike in a case because
> > you
> > can carry it like a suitcase rather than drag a big bike box through
> > crowded
> > airports, on to shuttle busses, etc. The downside is that packing and
> > unpacking the bike is somewhat more complicated compared to a regular
> > bike
> > in a case. The Breakaway design is solid. Once assembled it rides just
> > like
> > any other steel bike. S&S couple will do the same thing and there are
> > more
> > options for builders, bike types, etc. They are slightly heavier and
> > more
> > obvious on the bike but the performance difference should be minimal.
> > The
> > S&S case is better than the Breakaway case. S&S has 2; a hard case and
> > a
> > soft case/back pack. The hard case looks just like a suitcase and has
> > wheels which are very handy. Candi has one because they don't make a
> > Breakaway small enough for her. I have not used or seen the S&S
> > backpack
> > case. The Breakaway case is soft sided, has no wheels and has side
> > stiffeners that tend to separate making packing a bit difficult. It
> > shows a
> > fair amount of wear and tear after only 2 plane trips so it may have a
> > limited life span. It does fold up so it will store in a smaller space
> > than
> > a hard case. The other down side to the Ritchey is that the paint job
> > is
> > pretty marginal. The paint chips and cracks easily. There were chips
> > around
> > the joints from day one. The price for the Ritchey is slightly less then
> > an
> > S&S bike in general, at least when we bought ours.
> >
> > Let me know if you need any more info.
> >
> > Mike Murray
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of veloboy366@netzero.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 22:07 PM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike
> >
> >
> > Hey OBRA,
> > Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break
> > Away
> > bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet. I'm
> > wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I
> > think I
> > saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think of the
> > design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how is
> > traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a large
> > suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like normal
> > luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got a bike
> > on
> > the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my first visit
> > down
> > to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain I've
> > decided
> > that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm going to
> > make
> > more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this starts
> > making
> > sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
> >
> > ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
> > veloboy366@verizon.net
> >
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Edward Kendrick Sr

2006-03-09

Comotion, in Eugene, has another good, full-sized, travel bike.

If you don't need to race, while traveling, Bike Friday, in Eugene, is great, too. I have a Bike Friday, and I depend on it, to travel for work. Their service folks are very loyal and dedicated. (You might be able to get into a race with it, if there is an understanding official.)

There isn't much good to say, from my experience, about the ease of traveling with a bike (not the fault of the mfgs.). Given that I absolutely need my Bike Friday with me, I realize that the airlines and TSA can put me out-of-business. They have full control, so I leave my civil rights in parking lot. There is frequent damage, so I try to fix whatever I can and find out where the bike stores are near my destinations.

"Schreck, George" wrote:
I have a bike with S&S couplers, and I did not have any problem until a curbside baggage handler asked me what I had inside, and when I told him, he said I should not have told him it was a bike and he tried to charge me. After a rather heated exchange, I took the bicycle inside an checked it at the counter without incident.


The only disadvantage is that when it goes through screening, they always open it, and after sifting through the contents, sometimes they cannot close it. As a result, you need to watch while they open it to give instructions if they have trouble trying to close it. they will not let you touch the bike, but they will allow you to shout some helpful advice. Nevertheless, traveling with one of these is not as easy as you would think given the terrorism fears and the fact that they are always going to open a case when x-ray shows that has a lot of wires and pipes inside.


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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:34 AM
To: veloboy366@netzero.net
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike


Brian,
If it looks like luggage I don't think most airlines are going to ask you what's inside. They only really ask when you are checking over sized or overweight items. If really want to tell them that you have a bike in your suitcase go ahead and you might end up paying the extra fee, which is around 100.00.

BTW, I used to work for one of the big air carriers

Randy Lewandowski

On 3/9/06, veloboy366@netzero.net wrote: Hey OBRA,
Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break Away bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet. I'm wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I think I saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think of the design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how is traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a large suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like normal luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got a bike on the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my first visit down to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain I've decided that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm going to make more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this starts making sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian

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>
>
>The only disadvantage is that when it goes through screening, they
>always open it, and after sifting through the contents, sometimes
>they cannot close it. As a result, you need to watch while they
>open it to give instructions if they have trouble trying to close
>it. they will not let you touch the bike, but they will allow
>you to shout some helpful advice. Nevertheless, traveling with one
>of these is not as easy as you would think given the terrorism fears
>and the fact that they are always going to open a case when x-ray
>shows that has a lot of wires and pipes inside.
>
>

George is right that screening can be an issue. We tell our S&S bike
customers to zip tie all of the contents together so that if they
take the stuff out, it comes out as one unit and goes back the same
way. S&S Machine also makes a cargo net device that encloses the bike
and accomplishes the same thing. Many screening operations are
behind closed doors and even shouted helpful advice won't work. I
travel with an S&S tandem in two cases and never have trouble.

Kent Peterson
Co-Motion Cycles


Joe Cipale

2006-03-09

As a follow on to George's post: When I have traveled with my bike, I have traditionally used a Trico case and had mixed repsonse from airlines.
Alaska - PDX billed me for the bike at $50.00 one-way
San Jose/Seattle weighed the case. Since the weight was less than
35 lb, they said it could go through free.

Delta - The most expensive at $90.00 one-way to Miami/Ft Lauderdale (with a
change of planes in Dallas-Ft Worth).

United - $100.00 roundtrip to LA

Southwest - The worst at $100.00 one way to Phoenix.

Delta/TWA to Israel - Dont ask... And this was before 9/11. Lets just say the
were not the least bit interested and mde the price pretty
exorbitant. Around $200.00 one way, IIR.

Some airlines were pretty flexible. Others tend to be pretty strict. Many
that I have dealt with (US Air, TWA, United) are no longer in business to
the extent they once were.

Joe

Schreck, George wrote:

> The SS case is essentially a piece of Samsonite luggage so it fits
> within the guidelines, although it makes it a bit tighter fit. The case
> comes in two sizes, and I recommend the larger size unless you have a
> very small bicycle with 650 wheels. My bike is a carbon fiber Calfee
> cross bike, and I find that I can set it up in about 15 to 20 minutes,
> and it has never been damages due to the hard case and the fact that S&S
> also includes struts to put inside to further prevent the case from
> being collapsed.
>
> The only issues that I have had are with security opening it, which I
> described in my previous post.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Murray
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:27 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike
>
> I do have one. I am generally pleased with it. I have traveled with it
> twice. The airlines have given me no flack despite the fact that the
> case
> is just slightly over the size limit and has a rather weird "bubble" on
> the
> side. It is easier to travel with then a regular bike in a case because
> you
> can carry it like a suitcase rather than drag a big bike box through
> crowded
> airports, on to shuttle busses, etc. The downside is that packing and
> unpacking the bike is somewhat more complicated compared to a regular
> bike
> in a case. The Breakaway design is solid. Once assembled it rides just
> like
> any other steel bike. S&S couple will do the same thing and there are
> more
> options for builders, bike types, etc. They are slightly heavier and
> more
> obvious on the bike but the performance difference should be minimal.
> The
> S&S case is better than the Breakaway case. S&S has 2; a hard case and
> a
> soft case/back pack. The hard case looks just like a suitcase and has
> wheels which are very handy. Candi has one because they don't make a
> Breakaway small enough for her. I have not used or seen the S&S
> backpack
> case. The Breakaway case is soft sided, has no wheels and has side
> stiffeners that tend to separate making packing a bit difficult. It
> shows a
> fair amount of wear and tear after only 2 plane trips so it may have a
> limited life span. It does fold up so it will store in a smaller space
> than
> a hard case. The other down side to the Ritchey is that the paint job
> is
> pretty marginal. The paint chips and cracks easily. There were chips
> around
> the joints from day one. The price for the Ritchey is slightly less then
> an
> S&S bike in general, at least when we bought ours.
>
> Let me know if you need any more info.
>
> Mike Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of veloboy366@netzero.net
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 22:07 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike
>
>
> Hey OBRA,
> Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break
> Away
> bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet. I'm
> wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I
> think I
> saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think of the
> design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how is
> traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a large
> suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like normal
> luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got a bike
> on
> the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my first visit
> down
> to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain I've
> decided
> that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm going to
> make
> more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this starts
> making
> sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
> ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
> veloboy366@verizon.net
>
>
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Schreck, George

2006-03-09

The SS case is essentially a piece of Samsonite luggage so it fits
within the guidelines, although it makes it a bit tighter fit. The case
comes in two sizes, and I recommend the larger size unless you have a
very small bicycle with 650 wheels. My bike is a carbon fiber Calfee
cross bike, and I find that I can set it up in about 15 to 20 minutes,
and it has never been damages due to the hard case and the fact that S&S
also includes struts to put inside to further prevent the case from
being collapsed.

The only issues that I have had are with security opening it, which I
described in my previous post.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:27 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike

I do have one. I am generally pleased with it. I have traveled with it
twice. The airlines have given me no flack despite the fact that the
case
is just slightly over the size limit and has a rather weird "bubble" on
the
side. It is easier to travel with then a regular bike in a case because
you
can carry it like a suitcase rather than drag a big bike box through
crowded
airports, on to shuttle busses, etc. The downside is that packing and
unpacking the bike is somewhat more complicated compared to a regular
bike
in a case. The Breakaway design is solid. Once assembled it rides just
like
any other steel bike. S&S couple will do the same thing and there are
more
options for builders, bike types, etc. They are slightly heavier and
more
obvious on the bike but the performance difference should be minimal.
The
S&S case is better than the Breakaway case. S&S has 2; a hard case and
a
soft case/back pack. The hard case looks just like a suitcase and has
wheels which are very handy. Candi has one because they don't make a
Breakaway small enough for her. I have not used or seen the S&S
backpack
case. The Breakaway case is soft sided, has no wheels and has side
stiffeners that tend to separate making packing a bit difficult. It
shows a
fair amount of wear and tear after only 2 plane trips so it may have a
limited life span. It does fold up so it will store in a smaller space
than
a hard case. The other down side to the Ritchey is that the paint job
is
pretty marginal. The paint chips and cracks easily. There were chips
around
the joints from day one. The price for the Ritchey is slightly less then
an
S&S bike in general, at least when we bought ours.

Let me know if you need any more info.

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of veloboy366@netzero.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 22:07 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike

Hey OBRA,
Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break
Away
bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet. I'm
wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I
think I
saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think of the
design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how is
traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a large
suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like normal
luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got a bike
on
the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my first visit
down
to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain I've
decided
that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm going to
make
more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this starts
making
sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian

ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
veloboy366@verizon.net

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Schreck, George

2006-03-09

I have a bike with S&S couplers, and I did not have any problem until a
curbside baggage handler asked me what I had inside, and when I told
him, he said I should not have told him it was a bike and he tried to
charge me. After a rather heated exchange, I took the bicycle inside an
checked it at the counter without incident.


The only disadvantage is that when it goes through screening, they
always open it, and after sifting through the contents, sometimes they
cannot close it. As a result, you need to watch while they open it to
give instructions if they have trouble trying to close it. they will
not let you touch the bike, but they will allow you to shout some
helpful advice. Nevertheless, traveling with one of these is not as
easy as you would think given the terrorism fears and the fact that they
are always going to open a case when x-ray shows that has a lot of wires
and pipes inside.

________________________________

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Lewandowski
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:34 AM
To: veloboy366@netzero.net
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike

Brian,
If it looks like luggage I don't think most airlines are going to ask
you what's inside. They only really ask when you are checking over
sized or overweight items. If really want to tell them that you have a
bike in your suitcase go ahead and you might end up paying the extra
fee, which is around 100.00.

BTW, I used to work for one of the big air carriers

Randy Lewandowski

On 3/9/06, veloboy366@netzero.net wrote:

Hey OBRA,
Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's
Break Away bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty
sweet. I'm wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away
bikes (I think I saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what
they think of the design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more
importantly, how is traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's
the size of a large suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check
it in like normal luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's
still got a bike on the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just
had my first visit down to my brothers place in California. After
seeing the terrain I've decided that there is no way I'm going back
without a bike. If I'm going to make more frequent trips down there
then a "travel" bike like this starts making sense. Any info or tips
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian

ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
veloboy366@verizon.net



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Brian Engelen

2006-03-09

B1

I have seen these fittings added to existing bikes. The example I saw was
done on a Ti Litespeed road bike. It looked good too. So there are other
options than buying a new Ritchey.

B2

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of veloboy366@netzero.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:07 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike

Hey OBRA,
Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break Away
bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet. I'm
wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I think I
saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think of the
design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how is
traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a large
suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like normal
luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got a bike on
the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my first visit down
to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain I've decided
that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm going to make
more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this starts making
sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian

ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
veloboy366@verizon.net

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andrew.holmes@farmersinsurance.com

2006-03-09

to get the full skinny and a detailed video on the bike go to itunes and
check out a podcast called mostlybikes. they take it aparta nd put i back
to gether in great detail and pack it up and give a review.

http://www.mostlybikes.com/

Drew Holmes


"Randy
Lewandowski" To: "veloboy366@netzero.net"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike
Sent by:
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03/09/2006 05:34
AM

Brian,
If it looks like luggage I don't think most airlines are going to ask you
what's inside. They only really ask when you are checking over sized or
overweight items. If really want to tell them that you have a bike in
your suitcase go ahead and you might end up paying the extra fee, which is
around 100.00.

BTW, I used to work for one of the big air carriers

Randy Lewandowski

On 3/9/06, veloboy366@netzero.net wrote:
Hey OBRA,
Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break Away
bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet. I'm
wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I think
I saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think of the
design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how is
traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a large
suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like normal
luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got a bike on
the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my first visit down
to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain I've decided
that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm going to make
more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this starts making
sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian

ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
veloboy366@verizon.net

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Mike Murray

2006-03-09

I do have one. I am generally pleased with it. I have traveled with it
twice. The airlines have given me no flack despite the fact that the case
is just slightly over the size limit and has a rather weird "bubble" on the
side. It is easier to travel with then a regular bike in a case because you
can carry it like a suitcase rather than drag a big bike box through crowded
airports, on to shuttle busses, etc. The downside is that packing and
unpacking the bike is somewhat more complicated compared to a regular bike
in a case. The Breakaway design is solid. Once assembled it rides just like
any other steel bike. S&S couple will do the same thing and there are more
options for builders, bike types, etc. They are slightly heavier and more
obvious on the bike but the performance difference should be minimal. The
S&S case is better than the Breakaway case. S&S has 2; a hard case and a
soft case/back pack. The hard case looks just like a suitcase and has
wheels which are very handy. Candi has one because they don't make a
Breakaway small enough for her. I have not used or seen the S&S backpack
case. The Breakaway case is soft sided, has no wheels and has side
stiffeners that tend to separate making packing a bit difficult. It shows a
fair amount of wear and tear after only 2 plane trips so it may have a
limited life span. It does fold up so it will store in a smaller space than
a hard case. The other down side to the Ritchey is that the paint job is
pretty marginal. The paint chips and cracks easily. There were chips around
the joints from day one. The price for the Ritchey is slightly less then an
S&S bike in general, at least when we bought ours.

Let me know if you need any more info.

Mike Murray

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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 22:07 PM
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Subject: [OBRA Chat] Ritchey Break Away Bike

Hey OBRA,
Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break Away
bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet. I'm
wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I think I
saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think of the
design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how is
traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a large
suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like normal
luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got a bike on
the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my first visit down
to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain I've decided
that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm going to make
more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this starts making
sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian

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Randy Lewandowski

2006-03-09

Brian,
If it looks like luggage I don't think most airlines are going to ask you
what's inside. They only really ask when you are checking over sized or
overweight items. If really want to tell them that you have a bike in your
suitcase go ahead and you might end up paying the extra fee, which is around
100.00.

BTW, I used to work for one of the big air carriers

Randy Lewandowski

On 3/9/06, veloboy366@netzero.net wrote:
>
> Hey OBRA,
> Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break Away
> bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet. I'm
> wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I think I
> saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think of the
> design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how is
> traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a large
> suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like normal
> luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got a bike on
> the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my first visit down
> to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain I've decided
> that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm going to make
> more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this starts making
> sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
> ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
> veloboy366@verizon.net
>
>
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veloboy366@netzero.net

2006-03-08

Hey OBRA,
Lately I've been intrigued with the idea behind Ritchey's Break Away bike. They now make a Ti Cross frameset that looks pretty sweet. I'm wondering if anybody around here owns any of the Break Away bikes (I think I saw the infamous Mike Murray on one) and if so what they think of the design. Solid, easy to set up ,etc? Also, more importantly, how is traveling with it? The travel case looks like it's the size of a large suitcase. So, how do the airlines treat it? Check it in like normal luggage, or do they try to screw you over because it's still got a bike on the inside. I became an uncle a month ago and just had my first visit down to my brothers place in California. After seeing the terrain I've decided that there is no way I'm going back without a bike. If I'm going to make more frequent trips down there then a "travel" bike like this starts making sense. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian

ps...Probably best to respond directly to me at:
veloboy366@verizon.net

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