Candi Murray

There are USAC rules banning IPODs and limiting race radios to Pro 1 events
only. OBRA does not have the specific rules but they can be considered
under the "unsafe riding" interpretation. Race radios would be quiet 99% of
the time.
Candi

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:42 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ipods in races

I'm not a proponent of using earphones in races. But, just curious... what
is the difference between an earpiece for a music player and that for a team
radio? Both can distract the rider from the racing at hand and be seen as
"unsafe". Why is one allowed and one banned? Are there current rules
regarding radios in OBRA or USAC?

Thanks for reading.

CB
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Dan Houghton

I've been to the division 3 races and can testify one need not be a "Euro
pro" to use team radios. Most of the riders on the UCI circuit have radios.
I think the difference is team radios are silent 95% of the time.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith A. Prior"
To: "Chris" ;
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ipods in races

> Are you really trying to compare local cat 4/5's to Euro Pros?
>
> -K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
> Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:42 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ipods in races
>
>
> I'm not a proponent of using earphones in races. But, just curious... what
> is the difference between an earpiece for a music player and that for a
> team
> radio? Both can distract the rider from the racing at hand and be seen as
> "unsafe". Why is one allowed and one banned? Are there current rules
> regarding radios in OBRA or USAC?
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> CB
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Doug Evans

I've seen radios used in Oregon races. I don't remember what category
the field was, but it was no higher than cat 3.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Keith A. Prior
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Chris; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ipods in races

Are you really trying to compare local cat 4/5's to Euro Pros?

-K

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:42 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ipods in races

I'm not a proponent of using earphones in races. But, just curious...
what
is the difference between an earpiece for a music player and that for a
team
radio? Both can distract the rider from the racing at hand and be seen
as
"unsafe". Why is one allowed and one banned? Are there current rules
regarding radios in OBRA or USAC?

Thanks for reading.

CB
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Are you really trying to compare local cat 4/5's to Euro Pros?

-K

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:42 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ipods in races

I'm not a proponent of using earphones in races. But, just curious... what
is the difference between an earpiece for a music player and that for a team
radio? Both can distract the rider from the racing at hand and be seen as
"unsafe". Why is one allowed and one banned? Are there current rules
regarding radios in OBRA or USAC?

Thanks for reading.

CB
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Chris Alling

I could be wrong but I think that last year at this time Candi had said
that team radios were not to be used during races.

Chris Alling
Neil Kelly Cabinets
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-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:42 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ipods in races

I'm not a proponent of using earphones in races. But, just curious...
what is the difference between an earpiece for a music player and that
for a team radio? Both can distract the rider from the racing at hand
and be seen as "unsafe". Why is one allowed and one banned? Are there
current rules regarding radios in OBRA or USAC?

Thanks for reading.

CB
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Chris

I'm not a proponent of using earphones in races. But, just curious... what is the difference between an earpiece for a music player and that for a team radio? Both can distract the rider from the racing at hand and be seen as "unsafe". Why is one allowed and one banned? Are there current rules regarding radios in OBRA or USAC?

Thanks for reading.

CB

Candi Murray

There is a difference between stupid and uninformed. I feel it is the
officials, and the experienced riders responsibility to help the newbies

Candi

_____

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of mickwalsh1@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:32 PM
To: Keith A. Prior; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ipods in races

Being a Cat 5 is not an excuse for being stupid! or anything else.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Keith A. Prior"

Were they Cat 5 riders or riders that should know better?

-K

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:23 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Ipods in races

While this actual rule is not in the OBRA rules, it could certainly be
interpreted as unsafe/dangerous riding. There were at least 2 riders at
Banana Belt with earphones in. Please stop it.

Candi

_____

From: David Douglas [mailto:PVELO@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: NW Cycling
Subject: NWCYCLING: Ipods in races

Just to let everyone know - per USA Cycling rules you can not race with a
headphones for a Ipod or MP3 or any other type of music playing device in
your ear or ears. Riders caught using such devices can be subject to full
wrath of the law :) and it just isn't safe.

David

mickwalsh1@comcast.net

Being a Cat 5 is not an excuse for being stupid! or anything else.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Keith A. Prior"

Were they Cat 5 riders or riders that should know better?

-K
-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:23 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Ipods in races

While this actual rule is not in the OBRA rules, it could certainly be interpreted as unsafe/dangerous riding. There were at least 2 riders at Banana Belt with earphones in. Please stop it.
Candi

From: David Douglas [mailto:PVELO@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: NW Cycling
Subject: NWCYCLING: Ipods in races
Just to let everyone know - per USA Cycling rules you can not race with a headphones for a Ipod or MP3 or any other type of music playing device in your ear or ears. Riders caught using such devices can be subject to full wrath of the law :) and it just isn't safe.

David

Keith A. Prior

Were they Cat 5 riders or riders that should know better?

-K
-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:23 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Ipods in races

While this actual rule is not in the OBRA rules, it could certainly be
interpreted as unsafe/dangerous riding. There were at least 2 riders at
Banana Belt with earphones in. Please stop it.

Candi

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--

From: David Douglas [mailto:PVELO@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: NW Cycling
Subject: NWCYCLING: Ipods in races

Just to let everyone know - per USA Cycling rules you can not race with a
headphones for a Ipod or MP3 or any other type of music playing device in
your ear or ears. Riders caught using such devices can be subject to full
wrath of the law :) and it just isn't safe.

David

Candi Murray

While this actual rule is not in the OBRA rules, it could certainly be
interpreted as unsafe/dangerous riding. There were at least 2 riders at
Banana Belt with earphones in. Please stop it.

Candi

_____

From: David Douglas [mailto:PVELO@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: NW Cycling
Subject: NWCYCLING: Ipods in races

Just to let everyone know - per USA Cycling rules you can not race with a
headphones for a Ipod or MP3 or any other type of music playing device in
your ear or ears. Riders caught using such devices can be subject to full
wrath of the law :) and it just isn't safe.

David