Chris Harnish, M.S.
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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] NCNCA
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:19:51 -0800
From: Tom Field
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As a former Oregonian who finds himself in the Central Valley of
California, I have to echo Chris's sentiments. Lots of racing around
here, but nowhere near the TT's or hillclimb events I enjoyed in Oregon.
Still go back a couple of times/year.
Tom Field
On 3/15/06, *Chris Harnish, M.S.* > wrote:
I for one can't wait to finally get to Oregon this year. From
everything I've seen and heard you guys have it real good. We have good
people back East, but we're slaves to USAC. If you're permitted by
anyone but USAC you're 'Brown listed'; not totally shut out, but your
race numbers are hurt and finding help is near impossible. We hammer
our juniors with heavy costs and USAC is insisting promoters charge $2
for kids races. Money, money, money! Any of you who have a USAC
license know hwo much we pay and it keeps going up.
I find it refreshing to see some areas who are proving it can be done
another way. Great work!
Best,
Chris Harnish, M.S., HFI
Exercise Physiologist & Coach
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From: ncnca-bounces+mike.murray=obra.org@ncnca.org
[mailto: ncnca-bounces+mike.murray=obra.org@ncnca.org
] On Behalf Of Jens
Heycke
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 17:41 PM
To: ncnca@ncnca.org
Subject: Re: [NCNCA] USAC permit fees
Having recently moved from Oregon, I *like* "piddly little races in the
middle of nowhere." I see that the NCNCA calendar has all of 4
individual
TTs during the season. By contrast, OBRA has 13. . . . .just in the
month of
June.
Yet OBRA membership is roughly the same as here, despite having only a
fraction of the population base. And, I note the *big* stage race
on the
NCNCA calendar is where?..... In Oregon.
Could it be that piddly little races are what generage high
interest, high
membership, and the "high profile" races that you desire?
-jens heycke
Casey Kerrigan wrote:
I found out yesterday that USAC is looking at permit fees. The
problem is that things have to be revenue neutral. If USAC is making
less from event permit fees then they need to make more money from
someplace else ( or be convinced that the lower fees will generate as
much revenue as the old fees). From the number of promoters who send
in checks for more permit fees than what is actually due I just don't
see the permit fees being that big of an issue with most promoters.
Casey
On Mar 11, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Craig Lindberg wrote:
If this "race prize tax" is truly limiting
the sport, why doesn't USA Cycling set a
cap? Any prize list $$ beyond the cap does
not incur the 7% USCF tax.
You can set the cap to something rather
large so that existing fees gathered by
the USCF are largely (or completely)
unaffected. The half-dozen races which
are at or near the cap will be encouraged
to increase their prize list without paying
exorbitant fees to USA Cycling. Others
might be encouraged to drive up their prize
lists (and $$ to USCF) to reach that cap too.
It's a compromise to be sure, but perhaps
a few very high-value events will give the
sport some panache.
-Craig
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Chris Harnish, M.S., HFI
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