Candi Murray
Along the same lines. The officials got a complaint from a jogger. I guess
he was running along (probably oblivious) and the cat 4 or Cat 5 field
caught him. His complaints was for the profanities that he said were sent
his way. He was not a nice person for us to deal with and I am sure that he
felt he had as much 'right' to use the road as we did. My observations and
suggestion would be to not heap abuse to the general public.
C
-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Neil Green
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:33 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Racing Courtesy
I second what Mike said...
"...once you are out of the race caravan, i.e. behind the follow cars,
although
>you may still be racing you are now on open uncontrolled road and need to
>be
>prepared to stop for traffic control devices, stay to the right, etc..."
I saw a lot of riders still riding down the center of the lane after they
had been droped by the caravan. At one point 3 riders were riding side by
side down the lane. I had to pass them in the left lane (I was a lead car)
and yelled to them to get over. As the lead rider behind me passed them he
was almost forced across the center line. What the?????
If your out the back get out of the way!!!!!!!!
Neil
>From: "Mike Murray"
>Reply-To: mike.murray@obra.org
>To:
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Racing Courtesy
>Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:49:06 -0800
>
>I would generally agree with the exception that you have to realize that
>once you are out of the race caravan, i.e. behind the follow cars, although
>you may still be racing you are now on open uncontrolled road and need to
>be
>prepared to stop for traffic control devices, stay to the right, etc. just
>as if you were out for a regular bike ride. In addition, if you are not
>going to catch the field you are really not still racing. Any sprinting
>should be just for fun as it would be during a non-race ride.
>
>
>Mike Murray
>-----Original Message-----
>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>Behalf Of Jerald M Powell
>Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:32 PM
>To: FIREBIKEMEDIC276@cs.com
>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Racing Courtesy
>
>
>Brian, you're describing basically bad manners. What you, and the
>offending
>riders as well, will eventually find is that even though there seem to be a
>lot of riders out there, you're going to see those same riders
>repeatedly...
>some of them for years to come. A reputation gained for treating another
>racer badly eventually comes around and that friendly wheel that you
>offered
>may not be offered the next time. And the next time, it could mean missing
>a lead out in a sprint that does matter. So don't worry too much about it.
>What goes 'round... if you get my drift.
>
>
>Vis a vis courtesy... you're not required to let anyone suck wheel. It's
>up
>to you. So, the next time you're feeling quite so charitable in a race,
>tell whoever you let on your wheel that if they want a ride to the finish
>that you get the placing. If they don't agree, then you're still racing.
>
>
>I ought to point out, that unless you're on the same team... and in some
>venues, even if you are on the same team... assisting another rider might
>be
>a rule violation.
>
>
>Jerry
>
>
>
>
>On Mar 20, 2006, at 12:11 PM, FIREBIKEMEDIC276@cs.com wrote:
>
>
>I'm not trying to whine, but I would like to know other riders feelings are
>about this subject.
>
> Last Sunday at Banana Belt 3 in the Cat 5 race, I flatted out at
>mile
>15. After getting 2 wheel changes, I finally found one that allowed me to
>use a couple of gears without the chain slipping (thanks to you who's wheel
>I borrowed). I rode solo for most of the remainder of the race and managed
>to catch and pass several other Cat 5 participants. On the last lap, I
>let
>one guy tag onto my wheel, then I caught two other guys riding together and
>told them to jump on, which they did. I rode the last seven miles in front
>pulling these guys and even slowing down on the hills to allow them to stay
>with me.
> Just before the 200 m mark there is a hill and as I started up it, I
>had to fiddle with the drivetrain which was slipping pretty bad. Two of
>the
>guys took advantage of this and jumped away, leaving me searching for a
>gear
>that would hold.
> It's not that big of a deal that they did this at the end of the
>race
>because we all finished way down in our catagory, and I wouldn't even think
>about this had we all been going for a top ten finish.
> Yes, this is a race. What do others of you in OBRA land think of
>this situation? Would everyone do the same thing as these guys did under
>the same situation or would you let the guy doing all of the pulling finish
>in the front?
>
>Just food for thought.
>
>Brian Gordon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Jerald M Powell, AICP
>1926 SW Madison St
>Portland, OR 97205
>
>
>503 222 7173
>503 799 7823 (cellular)
>
>
>jpowell@spiritone.com
>
>
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