Steve Brown
Very well stated.
Steve Brown
On Jun 22, 2006, at 3:52 PM, smclaughry wrote:
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Candi Murray
> To: smclaughry
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:31:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Club Vote - Public Uriantion
>
>
> I think you sound like the voice of reason. I have had a particulary
> bad
> week dealing with the minuiate of bad riders, bad race organizers etc.
> I
> would really like you to post your note to the entire list.
> Candi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: smclaughry [mailto:smclaughry@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:06 PM
> To: cmurray@obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Club Vote - Public Uriantion
>
> Hi Candi,
>
> I hesitate to even address this subject, but I wonder what you think
> about
> the following logic:
>
> If we add a rule this week that specifically addresses public
> urination,
> then next week, somebody in a Guinness jersey is going to attempt a
> public
> defecation, and then claim that "Hey, there's no rule against it".
>
> I would argue that there is, in fact, a rule against all such behavior:
> "13.2 - Misconduct may be punished at the discretion of the Chief
> Referee.
> The forms of misconduct include, but are not limited to:
> - Unsportsmanlike conduct ... (etc)"
>
> First of all, there's the clause that says "not limited to" which
> implies
> that there are other forms of misconduct, subject to the common sense
> of the
> Chief Referee. But more to the point, I don't think it's too much of a
> stretch to say that "Unsportsmanlike conduct" can be broadly
> interpreted to
> mean "Uncivilized conduct." I may be a bit old-fashioned in this, but
> I was
> taught that in order to be a sportsman, you must first be a gentleman.
> (Sorry for the gender bias here, it's just easier to explain this
> way.) I
> think this definition is also historically consistent with the
> development
> of the concept of sportsmanship.
>
> So I would recommend against adding a new rule, but I would also
> strongly
> recommend a suspension of "this week's culprit", and if he wants to
> protest,
> make him do so in a public forum.
>
> -stephen mclaughry
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Candi Murray
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:09:35 PM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Club Vote - Public Uriantion
>
>
> OBRA rules are usually altered or added at the annual meeting we hold
> in
> January. I would like to offer a new one that will need a vote of each
> official club representative to be added immediately.
>
> It has been pointed out by this week's culprit that there is no actual
> rule
> in the OBRA rules that addresses public urination (I would have
> thought that
> exposing your gentials in public was enough. There is also no rule
> about
> beastiality, pedophilia etc but I hope we can leave those out of this
> discussion). I therefore propose this rule to be added. I could use
> help
> with the actual wording so that the "on the bike" nature calls are not
> included.
>
> "Any rider not utilizing the provided restrooms at an event will be
> subject
> to suspension.
>
>
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