Maybe Donald Rumsfeld could get in on the fun!!
Doug
On Jul 29, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Rick C Johnson wrote:
> The Dick Pound tie in was interesting. The man sure seems to relish
> his
> role as the global enforcer.
> Perhaps too much so...
>
> Rick
The Dick Pound tie in was interesting. The man sure seems to relish his
role as the global enforcer.
Perhaps too much so...
Rick
Mike Murray wrote:
>Not Indian but:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Warne
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>
Not Indian but:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Warne
Mike
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I am so fu$%ing sick of this sh%t.
I am finished with being a fan of professional cycling and am going to find
another sport to be a fan of!!
Hmmm...Lets see...Cricket! Yea man..Cricket!
I wonder if there is a big doping problem with professional Cricket players
in India?!
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Quoting "Freyensee, James P" :
> I do find a fault in Floyd here as well as with his team. All of this
> stuff is starting to come out on what prescription drugs he was on-
> cortisone shots, thyroid drugs, etc. It's almost like he is a walking
> medicine cabinet. Why did he not state this stuff earlier?
He did report that he was taking cortisone on a TUE. Maybe you didn't read it
because the news wasn't as sensational as doping allegations.
> I thought
> there were media reports stating he was not taking any pain medication
> for his hip (quote from one of his doctors)?
Cortisone and thyroid meds are not pain killers. Get it straight.
> Probably the best thing Floyd can do is spill his guts and state every
> single thing that gets put into his body each day: food,
> over-the-counter supplements, prescription drugs, plus any banned
> substance if he in fact was taking them.
That is exactly what an athlete does every time they are tested.
> But the fact that every single
> positive test for unusually high testosterone levels has been overturned
> makes this drug test the UCI uses suspect.
The test isn't "suspect," it's just that it is limited in its power. The test
measures the T/E ratio. Testosterone is naturally occuring so it's impossible
to tell if the testosterone detected in the test is naturally produced or
supplemental. The positives can be overturned if riders prove that they have a
naturally high testosterone level.
I do find a fault in Floyd here as well as with his team. All of this
stuff is starting to come out on what prescription drugs he was on-
cortisone shots, thyroid drugs, etc. It's almost like he is a walking
medicine cabinet. Why did he not state this stuff earlier? I thought
there were media reports stating he was not taking any pain medication
for his hip (quote from one of his doctors)? Shouldn't the team doctor
be looking out for for their riders, researching and trying to figure if
any prescribed drugs or even supplements that are allowed to be taken in
professional cycling could possibly trigger a false positive drug test?
Probably the best thing Floyd can do is spill his guts and state every
single thing that gets put into his body each day: food,
over-the-counter supplements, prescription drugs, plus any banned
substance if he in fact was taking them. And I think Phonak should be
taking a small bit of blame here too. But the fact that every single
positive test for unusually high testosterone levels has been overturned
makes this drug test the UCI uses suspect.
This is just a mess and it is a real shame...
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Behalf Of Eric Aleskus
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
The Swiss-based team said in a statement that it was notified by the
International Cycling Union (UCI) on Wednesday of "an unusual level of
Testosterone/Epitestosteron ratio in the test made on Floyd Landis after
stage 17 of the Tour de France."
From reports I have heard his ratio was 11/1
(testosterone/epitestosteron). Average is 6/1.
But they do say do to cortisone shots for the pain in his hip may have
caused this unusual level.
Eric
On 7/27/06 1:09 PM, "Roger Joys" wrote:
He's scheduled for Friday though...Not tonight :)
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 08:02 PM
To: 'Tom Perilloux'
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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
Leno appearance cancelled??!! Are you kidding? This is
the opportunity for Landis to tell the world that these charges are
bullshit until the B sample tests have been released Landis has nothing
to lose by defending himself publically on Leno and everything to
gain....
On 7/27/06, Tom Perilloux
wrote:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/more/specials/tour_de_france/2006/
07/27/landis.doping/index.html?cnn=yes
I can't wait for his appearance on Leno
tonight... although I'm sure it will
be canceled!
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To: "Jeff Tedder" <
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>; "Mike"
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>
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:56 AM
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> Looks like he tested + for testosterone. The B
sample has not confirmed
> it yet!
>
> Looks like we have more proof if any was
needed that the man has balls!!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:49 AM
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guinnesscycling@aol.com; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
>
> Did I see this right? I just caught the last
seconds of a piece on ESPN
> Cold Pizza about Lanis doping.
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The Swiss-based team said in a statement that it was notified by the
International Cycling Union (UCI) on Wednesday of "an unusual level of
Testosterone/Epitestosteron ratio in the test made on Floyd Landis after
stage 17 of the Tour de France."
From reports I have heard his ratio was 11/1 (testosterone/epitestosteron).
Average is 6/1.
But they do say do to cortisone shots for the pain in his hip may have
caused this unusual level.
Eric
On 7/27/06 1:09 PM, "Roger Joys" wrote:
> He's scheduled for Friday though....Not tonight :)
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Curt Dewees [mailto:curt.dewees@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 08:02 PM
>> To: 'Tom Perilloux'
>> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
>>
>> Leno appearance cancelled??!! Are you kidding? This is the opportunity for
>> Landis to tell the world that these charges are bullshit until the B sample
>> tests have been released. Landis has nothing to lose by defending himself
>> publically on Leno and everything to gain....
>>
>> On 7/27/06, Tom Perilloux wrote:
>>> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/more/specials/tour_de_france/2006/07/2
>>> 7/landis.doping/index.html?cnn=yes
>>>
>>> I can't wait for his appearance on Leno tonight... although I'm sure it will
>>> be canceled!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pollock, EuanX A"
>>> To: "Jeff Tedder" < sharkattack97219@peoplepc.com
>>> >; "Mike"
>>> ; ; < obra@list.obra.org
>>> >
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
>>>
>>>
>>>> > Looks like he tested + for testosterone. The B sample has not confirmed
>>>> > it yet!
>>>> >
>>>> > Looks like we have more proof if any was needed that the man has balls!!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>>>> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>>>> > Behalf Of Jeff Tedder
>>>> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:49 AM
>>>> > To: Jeff Tedder; Mike; guinnesscycling@aol.com; obra@list.obra.org
>>>> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
>>>> >
>>>> > Did I see this right? I just caught the last seconds of a piece on ESPN
>>>> > Cold Pizza about Lanis doping.
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He's scheduled for Friday though....Not tonight :)
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Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 08:02 PM
To: 'Tom Perilloux'
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Leno appearance cancelled??!! Are you kidding? This is the opportunity for Landis to tell the world that these charges are bullshit until the B sample tests have been released. Landis has nothing to lose by defending himself publically on Leno and everything to gain....
On 7/27/06, Tom Perilloux wrote:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/more/specials/tour_de_france/2006/07/27/landis.doping/index.html?cnn=yes
I can't wait for his appearance on Leno tonight... although I'm sure it will
be canceled!
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Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
> Looks like he tested + for testosterone. The B sample has not confirmed
> it yet!
>
> Looks like we have more proof if any was needed that the man has balls!!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Tedder
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:49 AM
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> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
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> Cold Pizza about Lanis doping.
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Leno appearance cancelled??!! Are you kidding? This is the opportunity for
Landis to tell the world that these charges are bullshit until the B sample
tests have been released. Landis has nothing to lose by defending himself
publically on Leno and everything to gain....
On 7/27/06, Tom Perilloux wrote:
>
>
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/more/specials/tour_de_france/2006/07/27/landis.doping/index.html?cnn=yes
>
> I can't wait for his appearance on Leno tonight... although I'm sure it
> will
> be canceled!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pollock, EuanX A"
> To: "Jeff Tedder" ; "Mike"
> ; ;
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
>
>
> > Looks like he tested + for testosterone. The B sample has not confirmed
> > it yet!
> >
> > Looks like we have more proof if any was needed that the man has balls!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of Jeff Tedder
> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:49 AM
> > To: Jeff Tedder; Mike; guinnesscycling@aol.com; obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
> >
> > Did I see this right? I just caught the last seconds of a piece on ESPN
> > Cold Pizza about Lanis doping.
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They actual encourage drug use in cricket - it's stimulants to keep the
spectators awake!
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I am so fu$%ing sick of this sh%t.
I am finished with being a fan of professional cycling and am going to
find another sport to be a fan of!!
Hmmm...Lets see...Cricket! Yea man..Cricket!
I wonder if there is a big doping problem with professional Cricket
players in India?!
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Shouldn't he be getting ready for hip surgery anyway? Which also reminds
me - he was supposedly getting approved cortisone shots to manage his
hip pain. Any biochemists care to elaborate on the relationship between
cortisone and testosterone?
Thomas Hoffman wrote:
>
> But if he is under investigation it makes sense to me. Same rules
> for Ulrich and Basso
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>
> The cycling analyst for ESPN commented that not a single rider that
> has disputed a positive testosterone test has lost. Good news for
> Floyd I guess. Not showing up at all of these high paying (100k) crits
> doesn't seem to help his case though.
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I am so fu$%ing sick of this sh%t.
I am finished with being a fan of professional cycling and am
going to find another sport to be a fan of!!
Hmmm...Lets see...Cricket! Yea man..Cricket!
I wonder if there is a big doping problem with professional Cricket players
in India?!
-K
But if he is under ?investigation? it makes sense to me. Same rules for
Ulrich and Basso
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The cycling analyst for ESPN commented that not a single rider that has
disputed a positive testosterone test has lost. Good news for Floyd I
guess. Not showing up at all of these high paying (100k) crits doesn't seem
to help his case though.
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from riding the crits; it was not Landis? decision.
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The cycling analyst for ESPN commented that not a single rider that has
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here is the official press release from Phonak, http://www.bikecafe.net/newsmgt/bn/?a=1445&z=9
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:48:44 -0700
>Did I see this right? I just caught the last seconds of a piece on ESPN Cold
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What a shame. But I seem to becoming numb to revelations of doping. Maybe there is a chance of an error or other explanation?? Maybe not. I can not speak to whether he did or not since I was not there to witness, but in the eyes of the majority, the mass media seems to be truth enough, with the follow up story never getting enough coverage. And that for our sport is a shame.
>>> 7/27/2006 8:36 am >>>
LONDON (AP) -- Tour de France champion Floyd Landis tested positive for
high levels of testosterone during the race, his Phonak team said Thursday
on its Web site.
The statement came a day after the UCI, cycling's world governing body,
said an unidentified rider had failed a drug test during the Tour.
"Jeff Tedder"
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Not sure, guess this makes for a perfect way to plead his case, which he
will be doing real soon to USADA, smells like a possible doper to me... but
then I guess we are just going to have to see what happens to his B sample.
>From: "Malcolm, Gary"
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] landis doping
>Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:06:41 -0700
>
>Something fishy is going on here. The favorite rider is caught using the
>easiest to detect hormone on the most obvious day possible? Does this make
>any kind of sense from Landis' point of view at all? This smells.
>
>Gary Malcolm
>
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The cycling analyst for ESPN commented that not a single rider that has disputed a positive testosterone test has lost. Good news for Floyd I guess. Not showing up at all of these high paying (100k) crits doesn't seem to help his case though.
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LONDON (AP) -- Tour de France champion Floyd Landis tested positive for
high levels of testosterone during the race, his Phonak team said Thursday
on its Web site.
The statement came a day after the UCI, cycling's world governing body,
said an unidentified rider had failed a drug test during the Tour.
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More than Lance, apparently...
;)
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> Looks like he tested + for testosterone. The B sample has not confirmed
> it yet!
>
> Looks like we have more proof if any was needed that the man has balls!!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/more/specials/tour_de_france/2006/07/27/landis.doping/index.html?cnn=yes
I can't wait for his appearance on Leno tonight... although I'm sure it will
be canceled!
----- Original Message -----
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To: "Jeff Tedder" ; "Mike"
; ;
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:56 AM
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> Looks like he tested + for testosterone. The B sample has not confirmed
> it yet!
>
> Looks like we have more proof if any was needed that the man has balls!!
>
>
>
>
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> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
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Something fishy is going on here. The favorite rider is caught using the
easiest to detect hormone on the most obvious day possible? Does this make
any kind of sense from Landis' point of view at all? This smells.
Gary Malcolm
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Now I know why Lance never tested +.
--- "Pollock, EuanX A"
wrote:
> Looks like he tested + for testosterone. The B
> sample has not confirmed
> it yet!
>
> Looks like we have more proof if any was needed that
> the man has balls!!
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Tedder
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:49 AM
> To: Jeff Tedder; Mike; guinnesscycling@aol.com;
> obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
>
> Did I see this right? I just caught the last seconds
> of a piece on ESPN
> Cold Pizza about Lanis doping.
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Looks like he tested + for testosterone. The B sample has not confirmed
it yet!
Looks like we have more proof if any was needed that the man has balls!!
-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Tedder
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:49 AM
To: Jeff Tedder; Mike; guinnesscycling@aol.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Landis doping
Did I see this right? I just caught the last seconds of a piece on ESPN
Cold Pizza about Lanis doping.
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check out cyclingnews.com - details posted there.
Did I see this right? I just caught the last seconds of a piece on ESPN Cold
Pizza about Lanis doping.
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