OBRA: OBRA Chat: road safety video

John Schader

2006-08-22

It's okay David. I see you hadn't seen the details of the other posts. As I said, if I'd seen that video a week ago, I'd be laughing too.

Thanks,
John

david baker wrote:
maybe i should have been reading more of those but i do not really follow all threads
sorry for your friend
----- Original Message -----
From: John Schader
To: Michael.Packard@CH2M.com ; dirtsurf@clearwire.net ; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:15 AM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] road safety video

Okay guys. I did realize that it was meant to be a joke. I guess having just witnessed such an awful act of disrespect for human life last Saturday, and seeing my friends' lives disrupted so completely for the foreseeable future by it, I just think the video is not appropriate in the context of recent discussions on this list. Last week I would have laughed along with you, but given it is today, it saddens me to see other cyclists joke about road safety right now.

Michael.Packard@CH2M.com wrote: Oh, lighten up. Sheesh.

I frankly found the video entertaining in what NOT to do on the road.
- Never saw a signal for a lane change - bad safety habit.
- Swerving between two semis - twice - not safe at all.
- Trying to outrun the cops, on a bike - not safe or smart.

I'm still laughing about it and do hope the cops eventually caught that bugger.

Thanks for the morning laugh, David !!! :)

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=f64d676e-f981-45ad-ae38-34dbdc88fe95&f=06/64&fg=email

Michael

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of John Schader
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:32 AM
To: david baker; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] road safety video

David,

That video is not about road safety at all. It's rude of you to mislead everyone with your subject line. If your point is that some cyclists break the law, as do some motorists, then point taken. However, in light of recent discussions, your post is crass and tasteless.

John

david baker wrote:

I found this on MSN Video and thought you might be interested in it.

Click this link
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Ron Frerichs

2006-08-22

Michael,
To be fair to John, your subject line was a little misleading.
Maybe you could have used CAT 3 FIELD SPRINT.
If there would have been more carnage, then CAT 4 FIELD SPRINT might be
appropriate.
And, if he would have sat up and turned himself in, then MASTERS FIELD
SPRINT would probably be best.
But thanks for the entertainment, anyway.
Ron

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 08:55:04 -0600

Oh, lighten up. Sheesh.

I frankly found the video entertaining in what NOT to do on the road.
- Never saw a signal for a lane change - bad safety habit.
- Swerving between two semis - twice - not safe at all.
- Trying to outrun the cops, on a bike - not safe or smart.

I'm still laughing about it and do hope the cops eventually caught that
bugger.

Thanks for the morning laugh, David !!! :)

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=f64d676e-f981-45ad-ae38-34dbdc88fe95&f
=06/64&fg=email

Michael

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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:32 AM
To: david baker; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] road safety video

David,

That video is not about road safety at all. It's rude of you to mislead
everyone with your subject line. If your point is that some cyclists
break the law, as do some motorists, then point taken. However, in light
of recent discussions, your post is crass and tasteless.

John

david baker wrote:

I found this on MSN Video and thought you might be interested in
it.

Click this link
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John Schader

2006-08-22

Okay guys. I did realize that it was meant to be a joke. I guess having just witnessed such an awful act of disrespect for human life last Saturday, and seeing my friends' lives disrupted so completely for the foreseeable future by it, I just think the video is not appropriate in the context of recent discussions on this list. Last week I would have laughed along with you, but given it is today, it saddens me to see other cyclists joke about road safety right now.

Michael.Packard@CH2M.com wrote: Oh, lighten up. Sheesh.

I frankly found the video entertaining in what NOT to do on the road.
- Never saw a signal for a lane change - bad safety habit.
- Swerving between two semis - twice - not safe at all.
- Trying to outrun the cops, on a bike - not safe or smart.

I'm still laughing about it and do hope the cops eventually caught that bugger.

Thanks for the morning laugh, David !!! :)

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=f64d676e-f981-45ad-ae38-34dbdc88fe95&f=06/64&fg=email

Michael

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of John Schader
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:32 AM
To: david baker; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] road safety video

David,

That video is not about road safety at all. It's rude of you to mislead everyone with your subject line. If your point is that some cyclists break the law, as do some motorists, then point taken. However, in light of recent discussions, your post is crass and tasteless.

John

david baker wrote:

I found this on MSN Video and thought you might be interested in it.

Click this link
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Michael.Packard@CH2M.com

2006-08-22

Oh, lighten up. Sheesh.

I frankly found the video entertaining in what NOT to do on the road.
- Never saw a signal for a lane change - bad safety habit.
- Swerving between two semis - twice - not safe at all.
- Trying to outrun the cops, on a bike - not safe or smart.

I'm still laughing about it and do hope the cops eventually caught that
bugger.

Thanks for the morning laugh, David !!! :)

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=f64d676e-f981-45ad-ae38-34dbdc88fe95&f
=06/64&fg=email

Michael

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of John Schader
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:32 AM
To: david baker; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] road safety video

David,

That video is not about road safety at all. It's rude of you to mislead
everyone with your subject line. If your point is that some cyclists
break the law, as do some motorists, then point taken. However, in light
of recent discussions, your post is crass and tasteless.

John

david baker wrote:

I found this on MSN Video and thought you might be interested in
it.

Click this link
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John Schader

2006-08-22

David,

That video is not about road safety at all. It's rude of you to mislead everyone with your subject line. If your point is that some cyclists break the law, as do some motorists, then point taken. However, in light of recent discussions, your post is crass and tasteless.

John

david baker wrote:

I found this on MSN Video and thought you might be interested in it.

Click this link
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david baker

2006-08-22

I found this on MSN Video and thought you might be interested in it.

Click this link

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=f64d676e-f981-45ad-ae38-34dbdc88fe95&f=06/64&fg=email