Re: Woodland RR Grade

Adams, Mike

2006-08-28

Why ride up if you can't ride down. 58.4 mph not even trying. Way to much fun.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Morrissette [mailto:news4joel@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:00 PM
To: T. Kenji Sugahara
Cc: obra@list.obra.org; Dave German
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade

Out of curiosity, do you ride back down or do they bus you? Having driven that road a few times, I can't imagine taking the descent on a bike.

-Joel

On 8/25/06, T. Kenji Sugahara < sugahara@mac.com> wrote:

Now imagine racing the Mt. Washington hillclimb with 50 yards at 22%.

and for the record.... Jason Weinstein was doing track stands on the
way up to wait up for my fat old butt.

k-

On Aug 25, 2006, at 10:44 AM, George de Randich wrote:

> Man a 19% grade would make me explode!
> George de Randich
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Dave German
> Date: 08/22/06 14:20:39
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade
>
> My Ciclosport altitude computer showed a max grade at 19%! This
> would have
> Been the last steep pitch. I noticed the two lower steep pitches were
> Running 12-13%.
>
> It was so steep, next time I'm using my crampon tires.
>
> Great race, be there next year for sure.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:54:08 -0700
> From: "Michael O'Hair" < mohair@easystreet.com>
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
> To: < obra@list.obra.org >
> Message-ID: <04ca01c6c563$f32d3c20$f2081e45@qarus>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> So don't keep us in suspense. How steep was it and how long was it?
>
> Example Answer: It was so steep I saw two mountain goats with climbing
> Ropes.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: john
> To: Robin Calver ; sugahara@mac.com ; obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
>
>
> "resort to zig-zagging and track standing "
> AND walking. But I expected too and wore my mtb shoes for a reason !
> What an evil hill. Even walking up it was hard !
>
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Trispoke@aol.com

2006-08-25

When I did Mt. Washington in 1996, I went down after my finish and cheered on
at least one person who just flat-out stopped and fell over at that section.
Hard way to finish.
-Ian Penner

In a message dated 8/25/06 11:42:55 AM, sugahara@mac.com writes:

> Now imagine racing the Mt. Washington hillclimb with 50 yards at 22%.
>
> and for the record.... Jason Weinstein was doing track stands on the 
> way up to wait up for my fat old butt.
>
> k-
>
>


Joel Morrissette

2006-08-25

Out of curiosity, do you ride back down or do they bus you? Having driven
that road a few times, I can't imagine taking the descent on a bike.

-Joel

On 8/25/06, T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
>
> Now imagine racing the Mt. Washington hillclimb with 50 yards at 22%.
>
> and for the record.... Jason Weinstein was doing track stands on the
> way up to wait up for my fat old butt.
>
> k-
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2006, at 10:44 AM, George de Randich wrote:
>
> > Man a 19% grade would make me explode!
> > George de Randich
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Dave German
> > Date: 08/22/06 14:20:39
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade
> >
> > My Ciclosport altitude computer showed a max grade at 19%! This
> > would have
> > Been the last steep pitch. I noticed the two lower steep pitches were
> > Running 12-13%.
> >
> > It was so steep, next time I'm using my crampon tires.
> >
> > Great race, be there next year for sure.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:54:08 -0700
> > From: "Michael O'Hair"
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
> > To:
> > Message-ID: <04ca01c6c563$f32d3c20$f2081e45@qarus>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> >
> > So don't keep us in suspense. How steep was it and how long was it?
> >
> > Example Answer: It was so steep I saw two mountain goats with climbing
> > Ropes.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: john
> > To: Robin Calver ; sugahara@mac.com ; obra@list.obra.org
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
> >
> >
> > "resort to zig-zagging and track standing "
> > AND walking. But I expected too and wore my mtb shoes for a reason !
> > What an evil hill. Even walking up it was hard !
> >
> >
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Joe Cipale

2006-08-25

I have always said those Bay Area boys are freaking nutz.

Especially having ridden with a couple of them...

Joe

Freyensee, James P wrote:

> Or not thankful...some of us prefer the Washington State (Omnium) Stage Race Championship courses ;)
>
> There is a famous race in California that my bay area cycling team puts on called the Cat's Hill Criterium, which is a 1 mile circuit that goes up a 23% grade for 50-100meters.
>
> Cat 3's do it 20 times.
> Cat 1/2's do it for 80 minutes (about 45 times)
>
> Fills up every year.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Ron Feldman
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:03 PM
> To: "T. Kenji Sugahara"; George de Randich
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org; Dave German
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade
>
> All,
>
>
> Be thankful this was not the Washington State (Omnium) Stage Race Championships.
>
> Ron
>
>
> "T. Kenji Sugahara" wrote:
>
> >Now imagine racing the Mt. Washington hillclimb with 50 yards at 22%.
> >
> >and for the record.... Jason Weinstein was doing track stands on the ?
> >way up to wait up for my fat old butt.
> >
> >k-
> >
> >
> >
> >On Aug 25, 2006, at 10:44 AM, George de Randich wrote:
> >
> >> ?Man a 19% grade would make me explode!
> >> George ?de Randich
> >>
> >> -------Original Message-------
> >>
> >> From: Dave German
> >> Date: 08/22/06 14:20:39
> >> To: obra@list.obra.org
> >> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade
> >>
> >> My Ciclosport altitude computer showed a max grade at 19%! This ?
> >> would have
> >> Been the last steep pitch. I noticed the two lower steep pitches were
> >> Running 12-13%.
> >>
> >> It was so steep, next time I'm using my crampon tires.
> >>
> >> Great race, be there next year for sure.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Message: 8
> >> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:54:08 -0700
> >> From: "Michael O'Hair"
> >> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
> >> To:
> >> Message-ID: <04ca01c6c563$f32d3c20$f2081e45@qarus>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> >>
> >> So don't keep us in suspense. How steep was it and how long was it?
> >>
> >> Example Answer: It was so steep I saw two mountain goats with climbing
> >> Ropes.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: john
> >> To: Robin Calver ; sugahara@mac.com ; obra@list.obra.org
> >> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:24 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
> >>
> >>
> >> "resort to zig-zagging and track standing "
> >> AND walking. But I expected too and wore my mtb shoes for a reason !
> >> What an evil hill. Even walking up it was hard !
> >>
> >>
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Freyensee, James P

2006-08-25

Or not thankful...some of us prefer the Washington State (Omnium) Stage Race Championship courses ;)

There is a famous race in California that my bay area cycling team puts on called the Cat's Hill Criterium, which is a 1 mile circuit that goes up a 23% grade for 50-100meters.

Cat 3's do it 20 times.
Cat 1/2's do it for 80 minutes (about 45 times)

Fills up every year.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Ron Feldman
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:03 PM
To: "T. Kenji Sugahara"; George de Randich
Cc: obra@list.obra.org; Dave German
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade

All,

Be thankful this was not the Washington State (Omnium) Stage Race Championships.

Ron

"T. Kenji Sugahara" wrote:

>Now imagine racing the Mt. Washington hillclimb with 50 yards at 22%.
>
>and for the record.... Jason Weinstein was doing track stands on the  
>way up to wait up for my fat old butt.
>
>k-
>
>
>
>On Aug 25, 2006, at 10:44 AM, George de Randich wrote:
>
>>  Man a 19% grade would make me explode!
>> George  de Randich
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From: Dave German
>> Date: 08/22/06 14:20:39
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade
>>
>> My Ciclosport altitude computer showed a max grade at 19%! This  
>> would have
>> Been the last steep pitch. I noticed the two lower steep pitches were
>> Running 12-13%.
>>
>> It was so steep, next time I'm using my crampon tires.
>>
>> Great race, be there next year for sure.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:54:08 -0700
>> From: "Michael O'Hair"
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
>> To:
>> Message-ID: <04ca01c6c563$f32d3c20$f2081e45@qarus>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>>
>> So don't keep us in suspense. How steep was it and how long was it?
>>
>> Example Answer: It was so steep I saw two mountain goats with climbing
>> Ropes.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: john
>> To: Robin Calver ; sugahara@mac.com ; obra@list.obra.org
>> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
>>
>>
>> "resort to zig-zagging and track standing "
>> AND walking. But I expected too and wore my mtb shoes for a reason !
>> What an evil hill. Even walking up it was hard !
>>
>>
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Ron Feldman

2006-08-25

All,

Be thankful this was not the Washington State (Omnium) Stage Race Championships.

Ron

"T. Kenji Sugahara" wrote:

>Now imagine racing the Mt. Washington hillclimb with 50 yards at 22%.
>
>and for the record.... Jason Weinstein was doing track stands on the  
>way up to wait up for my fat old butt.
>
>k-
>
>
>
>On Aug 25, 2006, at 10:44 AM, George de Randich wrote:
>
>>  Man a 19% grade would make me explode!
>> George  de Randich
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From: Dave German
>> Date: 08/22/06 14:20:39
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade
>>
>> My Ciclosport altitude computer showed a max grade at 19%! This  
>> would have
>> Been the last steep pitch. I noticed the two lower steep pitches were
>> Running 12-13%.
>>
>> It was so steep, next time I'm using my crampon tires.
>>
>> Great race, be there next year for sure.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:54:08 -0700
>> From: "Michael O'Hair"
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
>> To:
>> Message-ID: <04ca01c6c563$f32d3c20$f2081e45@qarus>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>>
>> So don't keep us in suspense. How steep was it and how long was it?
>>
>> Example Answer: It was so steep I saw two mountain goats with climbing
>> Ropes.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: john
>> To: Robin Calver ; sugahara@mac.com ; obra@list.obra.org
>> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
>>
>>
>> "resort to zig-zagging and track standing "
>> AND walking. But I expected too and wore my mtb shoes for a reason !
>> What an evil hill. Even walking up it was hard !
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
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>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
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>>
>>
>>
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T. Kenji Sugahara

2006-08-25

Now imagine racing the Mt. Washington hillclimb with 50 yards at 22%.

and for the record.... Jason Weinstein was doing track stands on the
way up to wait up for my fat old butt.

k-

On Aug 25, 2006, at 10:44 AM, George de Randich wrote:

> Man a 19% grade would make me explode!
> George de Randich
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Dave German
> Date: 08/22/06 14:20:39
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade
>
> My Ciclosport altitude computer showed a max grade at 19%! This
> would have
> Been the last steep pitch. I noticed the two lower steep pitches were
> Running 12-13%.
>
> It was so steep, next time I'm using my crampon tires.
>
> Great race, be there next year for sure.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:54:08 -0700
> From: "Michael O'Hair"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
> To:
> Message-ID: <04ca01c6c563$f32d3c20$f2081e45@qarus>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> So don't keep us in suspense. How steep was it and how long was it?
>
> Example Answer: It was so steep I saw two mountain goats with climbing
> Ropes.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: john
> To: Robin Calver ; sugahara@mac.com ; obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
>
>
> "resort to zig-zagging and track standing "
> AND walking. But I expected too and wore my mtb shoes for a reason !
> What an evil hill. Even walking up it was hard !
>
>
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George de Randich

2006-08-25

Man a 19% grade would make me explode!
George de Randich

-------Original Message-------

From: Dave German
Date: 08/22/06 14:20:39
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade

My Ciclosport altitude computer showed a max grade at 19%! This would have
Been the last steep pitch. I noticed the two lower steep pitches were
Running 12-13%.

It was so steep, next time I'm using my crampon tires.

Great race, be there next year for sure.

Dave



Message: 8
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:54:08 -0700
From: "Michael O'Hair"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
To:
Message-ID: <04ca01c6c563$f32d3c20$f2081e45@qarus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

So don't keep us in suspense. How steep was it and how long was it?

Example Answer: It was so steep I saw two mountain goats with climbing
Ropes.
----- Original Message -----
From: john
To: Robin Calver ; sugahara@mac.com ; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR


"resort to zig-zagging and track standing "
AND walking. But I expected too and wore my mtb shoes for a reason !
What an evil hill. Even walking up it was hard !


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Eric Kytola

2006-08-22

Reminder: 100% grade is 45 degrees.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Long, Steve
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:27 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade

Thank you. I didn't think any 13% grade would make me feel like
exploding.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Dave German
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:20 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade

My Ciclosport altitude computer showed a max grade at 19%! This would
have been the last steep pitch. I noticed the two lower steep pitches
were running 12-13%.

It was so steep, next time I'm using my crampon tires.

Great race, be there next year for sure.

Dave

Message: 8
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:54:08 -0700
From: "Michael O'Hair"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
To:
Message-ID: <04ca01c6c563$f32d3c20$f2081e45@qarus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

So don't keep us in suspense. How steep was it and how long was it?

Example Answer: It was so steep I saw two mountain goats with climbing
ropes.
----- Original Message -----
From: john
To: Robin Calver ; sugahara@mac.com ; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR

"resort to zig-zagging and track standing "
AND walking. But I expected too and wore my mtb shoes for a reason !
What an evil hill. Even walking up it was hard !

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Long, Steve

2006-08-22

Thank you. I didn't think any 13% grade would make me feel like
exploding.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Dave German
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:20 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR Grade

My Ciclosport altitude computer showed a max grade at 19%! This would
have been the last steep pitch. I noticed the two lower steep pitches
were running 12-13%.

It was so steep, next time I'm using my crampon tires.

Great race, be there next year for sure.

Dave

Message: 8
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:54:08 -0700
From: "Michael O'Hair"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
To:
Message-ID: <04ca01c6c563$f32d3c20$f2081e45@qarus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

So don't keep us in suspense. How steep was it and how long was it?

Example Answer: It was so steep I saw two mountain goats with climbing
ropes.
----- Original Message -----
From: john
To: Robin Calver ; sugahara@mac.com ; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR

"resort to zig-zagging and track standing "
AND walking. But I expected too and wore my mtb shoes for a reason !
What an evil hill. Even walking up it was hard !

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Dave German

2006-08-22

My Ciclosport altitude computer showed a max grade at 19%! This would have
been the last steep pitch. I noticed the two lower steep pitches were
running 12-13%.

It was so steep, next time I'm using my crampon tires.

Great race, be there next year for sure.

Dave

Message: 8
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:54:08 -0700
From: "Michael O'Hair"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR
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So don't keep us in suspense. How steep was it and how long was it?

Example Answer: It was so steep I saw two mountain goats with climbing
ropes.
----- Original Message -----
From: john
To: Robin Calver ; sugahara@mac.com ; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Woodland RR

"resort to zig-zagging and track standing "
AND walking. But I expected too and wore my mtb shoes for a reason !
What an evil hill. Even walking up it was hard !