what to do about owning a stolen bike?

Jay Rideout

2006-09-13

Just some thoughts based on personal experience and
certainly not to be considered legal advice.

Can the person produce a receipt. My bikes that I
purchased new have a bill of sale with the serial
number. Or does that bike shop or person that the
claimed original owner have any record of sale.

Second, if the owner claiming that the bike is stolen
property can make a reasonable case it becomes
important on how the current "owner" made payment.
Unknown to me, I had purchased stolen property. What
saved me from being charged was that I had paid with a
check and had recorded the serial number on the memo
line. This demonstrated legal intent (can't think of
the term they actually used) so they couldn't include
me in the theft/fencing ring they were investigating.

Unfortunately I had to return the property at a
personal financial loss to myself.
Jay

--- Rick Johnson wrote:

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Allegedly stolen goods being moved through OBRA land
and some personalconfrontation to boot. The specter of
thieves in our midst.
And I thought this was shaping up to be a boring week
for the chat.

It sounds interesting. Please keep us informed.

Rick

Michael Benno wrote: I am wondering if you all
might have some input on this...

A few months ago, I helped a friend purchase a used
bikefrom OBRA land posting. Last night, my friend was
stopped by someoneclaiming ownership of the bike and
said it was stolen from theirpossession.

My friend is meeting the claimed owner tonight to
discuss theownership issue further. What sorts of
responsibility does my friendhave to the owner? What
sorts of proof is reasonable? Is it my
friend'sresponsibility at all or should she just refer
the matter to the personwho sold it to her?

Any help is appreciated.

Mike

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Rick Johnson

2006-09-12

Allegedly stolen goods being moved through OBRA land and some personal
confrontation to boot. The specter of thieves in our midst.

And I thought this was shaping up to be a boring week for the chat.



It sounds interesting. Please keep us informed.



Rick



Michael Benno wrote:


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I am wondering if you all might have some input on this...

 

A few months ago, I helped a friend purchase a used bike
from OBRA land posting. Last night, my friend was stopped by someone
claiming ownership of the bike and said it was stolen from their
possession.

 

My friend is meeting the claimed owner tonight to discuss the
ownership issue further. What sorts of responsibility does my friend
have to the owner? What sorts of proof is reasonable? Is it my friend's
responsibility at all or should she just refer the matter to the person
who sold it to her?

 

Any help is appreciated.

 

Mike





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Mark J. Ginsberg

2006-09-12

well, proof of loss of some type, a police report for example, is a good start.

and we need to look back at the chain of title. from whom did your friend buy it?

but if the bike was stolen and the old owner can prove it, your friend can still have a "good" (in the legal sense) title to the bike, but the facts always make the case.

mark ginsberg

Michael Benno wrote: I am wondering if you all might have some input on this...

A few months ago, I helped a friend purchase a used bike from OBRA land posting. Last night, my friend was stopped by someone claiming ownership of the bike and said it was stolen from their possession.

My friend is meeting the claimed owner tonight to discuss the ownership issue further. What sorts of responsibility does my friend have to the owner? What sorts of proof is reasonable? Is it my friend's responsibility at all or should she just refer the matter to the person who sold it to her?

Any help is appreciated.

Mike

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Michael Benno

2006-09-12

I am wondering if you all might have some input on this...

A few months ago, I helped a friend purchase a used bike from OBRA land posting. Last night, my friend was stopped by someone claiming ownership of the bike and said it was stolen from their possession.

My friend is meeting the claimed owner tonight to discuss the ownership issue further. What sorts of responsibility does my friend have to the owner? What sorts of proof is reasonable? Is it my friend's responsibility at all or should she just refer the matter to the person who sold it to her?

Any help is appreciated.

Mike