George de Randich
Thank you! I assume that everyone on the road is out to get me!
George de Randich
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From: Todd.Dye@CH2M.com
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] I would like some informationon Oregon/WashingtonTraffic requlations for bicycles & tricycles
Sounds about right to me
The only thing I would add, is that if your are in a bike lane going straight through an intersection where cars are turning to the right (across the bike lane) you need to position yourself safely regardless of the fact that you have the right of way and the cars are "supposed to" watch out for you and yield before they make their turn. Seems obvious, but I'm always amazed at how many experienced riders I see not paying attention and getting the right hook treatment.
The best rule of thumb there is to assume that EVERY car is going to turn right regardless of whether they have a turn signal on or not.
When approaching a slow moving line of cars (say traffic was backed up and the light just turned green) I slow down to match the speed of the advancing traffic and position myself in the bike lane parallel to the gap between two of the cars to my left. I try to keep a bike length between my wheel and the bumper of the car in front, so that if they make a sudden right turn they are ahead of me. This also makes it a lot harder for the car behind to miss seeing me.
The key here is to pick two cars in the line where the gap is the largest. To me, that indicates that the driver in back has a little bit of patience and will likely give you more wiggle room to proceed straight between the two cars.
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of david baker
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:09 AM
To: George de Randich; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] I would like some informationon Oregon /WashingtonTraffic requlations for bicycles & tricycles
George,
Hopefully you have a flag if you are low to the ground.
If the vehicle is traveling the same direction as you and wants to turn right, and there is a clear bike lane, you take the bike lane to the intersection. The vehicle turning must wait for anyone in the bike lane to pass before turning. Your speed is not really a factor, they have to wait for pedestrians too.
If there is no bike lane, you ride like you are a vehicle. Pull up behind the last vehicle there, whether or not they are turning. Go through the intersection as if you were a car. Then go to the right side of the road after exiting the intersection.
If you are looking to turn left, you ride like you are a vehicle and go in the left turn lane behind the last vehicle. Then go to the right side of the road after exiting the intersection.
If that is too scary you might need to plan a route that only has right turns and straight throughs, or you could become a pedestrian at the intersection by dismounting the bike and using the cross walks like a pedestrian.
I would assume that you do not ride on sidewalks at all unless there is a sign indicating it is ok, like a boardwalk or something.
You could always walk your bike.
I am from Bend so things might be different over there.
Is that right everyone?
----- Original Message -----
From: George de Randich
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:34 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] I would like some informationon Oregon / WashingtonTraffic requlations for bicycles & tricycles
Please understand that I'm a re-tread to bicycling and tricycling.
Given those facts can you answer these questions:
1.. Given that I am a very slow 3 wheeler. Is it appropriate for me to yield the right of way to turning motovehicles that have reached the stop light before me!
2.. When must I drive my bicycle / tricycle on the side walk and provided that there is no posted prohibition, when am I prevented from driving on said sidewalk?
Thank you very much for your information!
627 miles on the odometer since April,
George de Randich,
Longview, Washington
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