Re: [What happened at Mt. Tabor (bike crash & a dog)?????]

Phil Harden

2001-06-21

Good Day All,

A few years ago, about 2 or 3, the City of Portland set up a planning

committee to plan improvements for the parks in general and for Mt. Tabor

specifically. There were many planning meetings and about 6 or 8 public

meetings. I attended 3 of the public meetings to express my wish to have

the "Off Leash Area" removed from Mt. Tabor. I met with vociferous

resistance from dog owners. Now I must tell you all this. I am a dog owner

myself. I never take my dog off his leash when we walk. My wife was on the

planning committee set up by the city. What you all need to know is this.

The city government knows that people let their dogs off the leashes in Mt.

Tabor. There is no longer an "Off Leash Area" in Mt. Tabor. The elected

city officials, and the hired city workers will not enforce the law when it

comes to the dogs. I know this from first hand conversations. If fact an

aide to one of the councilman openly violates the law every day. With the

expressed approval of his boss, an elected City Councilman. He told me so.

This is what I recommend. If, in fact a dog that was not on a leash and

otherwise was not controlled or restrained, then sue the bastards. Sue the

City of Portland, sue the dog owner, sue everyone in sight. Through the

courts, a Liberal Playbook Plan, is the only place where public policy can

be constructed. Sue them all!!!!! Good Luck and Happy Hunting!

Not so respectfully submitted,

Phil Harden - a victim of irresponsible dog owners and the actions of their

dogs!

----- Original Message -----

From: CHRIS BRANDT <chris.-@usa.net>

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Sent: June 21, 2001 4:48 PM

Subject: Re: [[OBRA Chat] What happened at Mt. Tabor (bike crash & a

dog)?????]





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Yes, there was a big crash in the Cat. 3 race. On the fast descent, around

the

 big sweeper corner, mid-race. From my perspective near the front, a man

and

 his dog (off-leash) decided to walk across the course in an area that

didn't

 have any course marshalls, and no trailheads. He barely made it across,

but

 the dog froze in a panic as it saw a pack of cyclists heading straight at

him

 at 35-40 mph. Brakes locked up, rubber burned, and a girlish scream was

followed by that ominous silence before scraping/grinding sounds. I didn't

see

 it, only heard it behind me.



I have had problems before in the park with dogs off leash. Actually had a

dog

 run after me and leap at my front wheel, bending it at Mt. Tabor. He

seemed to

 be having all sorts of fun. I believe that dogs are required to be

on-leash at

 Mt. Tabor.



Chris



__

So was there a crash last night involving a dog? Enlighten us as to the

specifics. Please! Was the dog on a leash?



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CHRIS BRANDT

2001-06-21

Hi



Yes, there was a big crash in the Cat. 3 race. On the fast descent, aroun=

d the

big sweeper corner, mid-race. From my perspective near the front, a man a=

nd

his dog (off-leash) decided to walk across the course in an area that did=

n't

have any course marshalls, and no trailheads. He barely made it across, b=

ut

the dog froze in a panic as it saw a pack of cyclists heading straight at=

him

at 35-40 mph. Brakes locked up, rubber burned, and a girlish scream was

followed by that ominous silence before scraping/grinding sounds. I didn'=

t see

it, only heard it behind me.



I have had problems before in the park with dogs off leash. Actually had =

a dog

run after me and leap at my front wheel, bending it at Mt. Tabor. He seem=

ed to

be having all sorts of fun. I believe that dogs are required to be on-lea=

sh at

Mt. Tabor.



Chris



__

So was there a crash last night involving a dog? Enlighten us as to the

specifics. Please! Was the dog on a leash?