Re:

Steve Brown

2009-08-10

Cheryl,

Great pix. Did you or anyone you know get pictures of the crowd?

Steve Brown
On Aug 10, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Cheryl Willson wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Twilight Crit photos for your enjoyment....
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnrudoff/sets/72157621979961050/
>>
>
>
> Cheryl
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "John Rudoff, M. D., FACC"
>> Date: August 9, 2009 7:59:35 PM PDT
>> To: webmaster@obra.org
>> Reply-To: "John Rudoff, M. D., FACC"
>>
>> Hi There--
>>
>> Enjoyed the Twilight Crit...
>>
>> Here's some photos. More to follow. Link if you like. JMR
>>
>> Twilight Criterium 2009 8 7
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnrudoff/sets/72157621979961050/
>>
>> About the set
>> 109 items | 7 views
>>
>> Portland, Oregon
>>
>> A selection of things from the set
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Rudoff, M. D., FACC
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2009-08-10

Hi all,

Twilight Crit photos for your enjoyment....
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnrudoff/sets/72157621979961050/
>

Cheryl

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "John Rudoff, M. D., FACC"
> Date: August 9, 2009 7:59:35 PM PDT
> To: webmaster@obra.org
> Reply-To: "John Rudoff, M. D., FACC"
>
> Hi There--
>
> Enjoyed the Twilight Crit...
>
> Here's some photos. More to follow. Link if you like. JMR
>
> Twilight Criterium 2009 8 7
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnrudoff/sets/72157621979961050/
>
> About the set
> 109 items | 7 views
>
> Portland, Oregon
>
> A selection of things from the set
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John Rudoff, M. D., FACC
> Consultative, Diagnostic, and Invasive Cardiology
> 6475 S. W. Borland Road, Suite L, Tualatin, OR 97062 (Meridian Park)
> Also: 9155 S.W. Barnes Road, # 933, Portland, OR 97225 (St. Vincent)
> Phone: (503)-238-8333 (Note: Pacific Time); Fax: (503)-885-9033
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mickw-@comcast.net

2005-10-05



The UCI solves ours and their problems in the Pub now that there is an Irishman at the helm ; -)



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 Yes, the UCI does something for us. Primarily, they assist us losing money

:-)

Even with the great numbers we get here in portland, we break even at best

on these UCI races. And that is with Cannondale and River City Bicycles

generous sponsor dollars. I cannot imagine having to subsidize a UCI race

in someplace where the 'cross scene is not quite as fervant as ours.



On a serious note, the UCI tag does draw the biggest talent. If you want to

put on a "big show" race, it needs to be affiliated with the UCI. The races

are big and fun....and that is why we do it.







----- Original Message -----

From: "dan davis"

To:

Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:29 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat]

=?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5BOBRA_Chat=5D_Cannondale_St=FCmptown_Cycl





can you say UCI. the non UCI cost for the junior race is $12. the UCI

junior is $20, some of that $20 goes to the UCI for all the work they do

for us? they do do work for us right?

Dan...

Hormann, Douglas J wrote:

 

You're not the only one Luciano. I was wondering the same thing. Can

someone explain the organization of cyclocross vs. other OBRA events so

we can understand the cost difference. I know there's insurance, etc. to

be paid; is it at a different rate for cyclocross events.?



Doug Hormann





-----Original Message-----

From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:49 AM

To: bri-@halffastvelo.com; ob-@topica.com; nwcyc-@topica.com;

obra-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale St?mptown Cyclocross Classic- Sat

10/8



Maybe off topic but why are the Junior cross races so expensive with the



tremendous turnout for these events promoters would encourage junior

also

known as future racers by not making racing cost prohibitive. I could be



alone here but after bike shopping and race fees it is quite a leap for

an

eight to ten race season. I think my main concern is the future of

Oregon

racing if the juniors programs are not somehow subsidized. Just a

thought.



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shane.-@comcast.net

2005-10-05

I would say for most of us we are very thankful that you do.



-------------- Original message --------------



 Yes, the UCI does something for us. Primarily, they assist us losing money

:-)

Even with the great numbers we get here in portland, we break even at best

on these UCI races. And that is with Cannondale and River City Bicycles

generous sponsor dollars. I cannot imagine having to subsidize a UCI race

in someplace where the 'cross scene is not quite as fervant as ours.



On a serious note, the UCI tag does draw the biggest talent. If you want to

put on a "big show" race, it needs to be affiliated with the UCI. The races

are big and fun....and that is why we do it.







----- Original Message -----

From: "dan davis"

To:

Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:29 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat]

=?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5BOBRA_Chat=5D_Cannondale_St=FCmptown_Cycl





can you say UCI. the non UCI cost for the junior race is $12. the UCI

junior is $20, some of that $20 goes to the UCI for all the work they do

for us? they do do work for us right?

Dan...

Hormann, Douglas J wrote:

 

You're not the only one Luciano. I was wondering the same thing. Can

someone explain the organization of cyclocross vs. other OBRA events so

we can understand the cost difference. I know there's insurance, etc. to

be paid; is it at a different rate for cyclocross events.?



Doug Hormann





-----Original Message-----

From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:49 AM

To: bri-@halffastvelo.com; ob-@topica.com; nwcyc-@topica.com;

obra-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale St?mptown Cyclocross Classic- Sat

10/8



Maybe off topic but why are the Junior cross races so expensive with the



tremendous turnout for these events promoters would encourage junior

also

known as future racers by not making racing cost prohibitive. I could be



alone here but after bike shopping and race fees it is quite a leap for

an

eight to ten race season. I think my main concern is the future of

Oregon

racing if the juniors programs are not somehow subsidized. Just a

thought.



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Conor Buescher

2005-10-04



Okay, thanks for the heads up. I'll hold off coming up to the track (at

least with my track bike) until its been cleaned up.



Conor Buescher



 I expect that the track will be in the process of being cleaned on Sunday.



Mike Murray



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From: con-@comcast.net [mailto:con-@comcast.net]

Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 16:25 PM

To: lis-@comcast.net; bende-@comcast.net; ob-@topica.com

Cc: Brian L

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cannondale_Stumptown_Cyclocross_Classic-_Sat_10/8/0





Does this mean I won't be able to come up and ride on the track (with my

track bike) on Sunday? I realize that the race is slated for Saturday -

will the track be cleaned up after running the cross race?



Thanks, I'm hoping the weather is nice.



Conor Buescher

Corvallis





 Take a look at the cool online course map and that should explain it.



http://www.crosscrusade.com/images/maps/2005/alpenrose.jpg





-----Original Message-----

From: Ken Benderly [mailto:bende-@comcast.net]

Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:51 PM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat]

Cannondale_Stumptown_Cyclocross_Classic-_Sat_10/8/0



How exactly are you guys planning on having the beginner race start at

9



and run for 40 minutes, and then start the cat C race at 9:45? Won't

there be a course full of beginner racers streaming in for another 10

minutes?



Ken



B Witty wrote:

 /Attention all Cyclocross Crusaders! Note start time changes for

some



 categories below. /



Race Day Schedule:



*CATEGORY     



 START TIME        DURATION                      FEE

*

 

Beginners & Masters

50+                                                          9:00am



              40 minutes               $20/$2 Unicycles



Cat C, Masters Cat C and

Unicycles                                           9:45am

     40 minutes               $20/$12 Juniors



Masters Cat B & Non UCI Jrs. (16 & Under)



 10:30am                45 minutes                    $20



Women's B, Masters Women 35, Jr. Women

11:30pm                40 minutes                    $20



Men's Cat B & Single

Speed                                                       12:15pm



              45 minutes                    $20



Elite UCI Women* & UCI Juniors (17&18)*



 1:15pm                40 minutes            $30 Women/$20 UCI Jrs.



Masters Men Cat A

35+            

35+ 2:00pm



                45 minutes                     $20



Elite Men & Espoirs -

UCI*                                                         3:00pm



              60 minutes                    $30



*2^nd Race- Race

Fee

$10



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Schreck, George

2005-10-04



I depends upon how hard it rains after the race.



-----Original Message-----

From: con-@comcast.net [mailto:con-@comcast.net]

Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 4:25 PM

To: lis-@comcast.net; bende-@comcast.net; ob-@topica.com

Cc: Brian L

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat]

Cannondale_Stumptown_Cyclocross_Classic-_Sat_10/8/0



Does this mean I won't be able to come up and ride on the track (with my

track bike) on Sunday? I realize that the race is slated for Saturday -

will the track be cleaned up after running the cross race?



Thanks, I'm hoping the weather is nice.



Conor Buescher

Corvallis





 Take a look at the cool online course map and that should explain it.



http://www.crosscrusade.com/images/maps/2005/alpenrose.jpg





-----Original Message-----

From: Ken Benderly [mailto:bende-@comcast.net]

Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:51 PM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat]

Cannondale_Stumptown_Cyclocross_Classic-_Sat_10/8/0



How exactly are you guys planning on having the beginner race start at

9

 

and run for 40 minutes, and then start the cat C race at 9:45? Won't

there be a course full of beginner racers streaming in for another 10

minutes?



Ken



B Witty wrote:

 /Attention all Cyclocross Crusaders! Note start time changes for

some

 

 categories below. /



Race Day Schedule:



*CATEGORY     



 START TIME        DURATION                      FEE

*

 

Beginners & Masters

50+                                                          9:00am



              40 minutes               $20/$2 Unicycles



Cat C, Masters Cat C and

Unicycles                                           9:45am



       40 minutes               $20/$12 Juniors



Masters Cat B & Non UCI Jrs. (16 & Under)



 10:30am                45 minutes                    $20



Women's B, Masters Women 35, Jr. Women                             

11:30pm                40 minutes                    $20



Men's Cat B & Single

Speed                                                       12:15pm



              45 minutes                    $20



Elite UCI Women* & UCI Juniors (17&18)*



 1:15pm                40 minutes            $30 Women/$20 UCI Jrs.



Masters Men Cat A

35+

2:00pm

 

                45 minutes                     $20



Elite Men & Espoirs -

UCI*                                                         3:00pm



              60 minutes                    $30



*2^nd Race- Race

Fee

$10



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Peter Drake

2004-12-29



If you're fixed you're not required to have a rear brake, but if you

have a freewheel of any sort you have to have one. I don't think you'd

be able to sneak that kind of cheat past the eagle eyes of Candi.



102 inches? If Greg can crank that gear to a sub-30 at Jack Frost I'll

buy him a bacon cheesburger.



Apropos to the Renn disc, I've seen troubles with three of these having

separations and they're not a tremendously responsive company... beware.



Peter Drake

FMCT







Gregory Leblanc wrote:

 

On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 19:44 -0800, Dan H wrote:

 who uses brakes in a TT?



Exactly! Disk wheel on the back, 53x14 fixed gear, dummy break lever

and caliper for the back (don't tell Candi that it doesn't work),

caliper brake on the front, and you're good to go!

Greg



 ----- Original Message -----

From: <cjgr-@comcast.net>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:14 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat]





 Duncan,



I would be careful with the Renn. A teammate bought a new one this past

year and on the 3rd ride the breaking separated from the rest of the

wheel.

Very dangerous. Wheel was totally unrideable. The Renn folks did

replace

it, but I have heard about similar issues with carbon wheels seperating

from

aluminum breaking surfaces, which the Renn has. Has to do with the heat

generated while breaking, which causes the bonding material to loose its

ability to adhere to the aluminum.

 

Cruise Ebay for some older disks, you should be able to get one in the $

range you are looking for.

 

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Gregory Leblanc

2004-12-28



On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 19:44 -0800, Dan H wrote:

 who uses brakes in a TT?



Exactly! Disk wheel on the back, 53x14 fixed gear, dummy break lever

and caliper for the back (don't tell Candi that it doesn't work),

caliper brake on the front, and you're good to go!

Greg



 ----- Original Message -----

From: <cjgr-@comcast.net>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:14 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat]





 Duncan,



I would be careful with the Renn. A teammate bought a new one this past

year and on the 3rd ride the breaking separated from the rest of the wheel.

Very dangerous. Wheel was totally unrideable. The Renn folks did replace

it, but I have heard about similar issues with carbon wheels seperating from

aluminum breaking surfaces, which the Renn has. Has to do with the heat

generated while breaking, which causes the bonding material to loose its

ability to adhere to the aluminum.

 

Cruise Ebay for some older disks, you should be able to get one in the $

range you are looking for.

 

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Dan H

2004-12-28



who uses brakes in a TT?

----- Original Message -----

From: <cjgr-@comcast.net>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:14 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat]





 Duncan,



I would be careful with the Renn. A teammate bought a new one this past

year and on the 3rd ride the breaking separated from the rest of the wheel.

Very dangerous. Wheel was totally unrideable. The Renn folks did replace

it, but I have heard about similar issues with carbon wheels seperating from

aluminum breaking surfaces, which the Renn has. Has to do with the heat

generated while breaking, which causes the bonding material to loose its

ability to adhere to the aluminum.

 

Cruise Ebay for some older disks, you should be able to get one in the $

range you are looking for.

 

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Brad Cockman, DC

2004-06-25



Yeah, me too. That video is nuts.



Brad





Brian wrote:

 If anyone has a copy of the NYC crazy ride from drunkcyclist.com will

you please forward a copy to me?











Thanks,







Brian







beng-@comcast.net



Cheryl J. Willson

2004-06-24



I didn't remember Candi sending something out but it is a busy week for

her. Not that other weeks aren't busy!



You can get a general overview of Thursdays here:

http://www.obra.org/track/flyers/2004/thursdays.html



This week the schedule is 3 omnium events and a madison. I don't know

specifically what race each category will do.





On Jun 24, 2004, at 9:21 AM, Griffin, Nicole (Food Ingredients) wrote:



 What is tonight's Alpenrose schedule? I didn't see it come out this

week. Did I miss something?



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THOMAS HOFFMAN

2003-10-18



No. That just from getting Married.



:-)

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Cc: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:50 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat]





 

I don't know about that; after nearly fifteen years of being a 'Kilo and

Pursuit specialist, I'm sure that I am slowly losing my memory, if not my

mind altogether!

 

Rambo



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rambob-@juno.com

2003-10-17





I don't know about that; after nearly fifteen years of being a 'Kilo and Pursuit specialist, I'm sure that I am slowly losing my memory, if not my mind altogether!



Rambo



jo-@aracnet.com

2003-10-17



 Hey All: I knew there was some reason I do this silly sport (other than

the glory of my victories and the adoration of my legions of fans):



Check it out:



http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/10/17/improve.memory/index.html



Who are you again? ;^)



Joe



mike.m-@obra.org

2003-05-16



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apologize for the following, but I received a virus from a contact<BR><BR>today,

something that is automatically forwarded to everyone in<BR>one's <BR>address

book, so you probably got it. It takes effect in 14 days, so<BR>urgent <BR>that

you deal with it immediately. Following are detailed<BR>instructions on <BR>how

to remove it safely. If you got it, you will have to notify all<BR>in your

<BR>address book too. Really sorry about this. <BR><BR>BlankA virus has been

passed to me by a contact. My address book in<BR>turn <BR>> > has been

affected. Since you are in my address book there is a<BR>good chance <BR>>

 you > will find it in your computer too. I followed the<BR>directions

below <BR>> > and eradicated the virus easily. The virus >

(called<BR>jdbgmgr.exe) is not <BR>> > detected by Norton or McAfee

anti-virus <BR>> > systems. <BR>> > The virus sits quietly for 14

days before damaging the system.<BR>It is sent <BR>> > automatically by

messenger and by the address book whether or<BR>not you sent <BR>> >

emails to your contacts. Here is how you check for the virus and<BR>get rid of

<BR>> > it. <BR>> > 1. Go to start, find or search option. <BR>>

 2. In the file/folders option, type the name: jdbgmgr.exe <BR>> > 3.

Be sure to search your C: drive and all the subfolders and<BR>any other <BR>>

 drives you may have. <BR>> > 4. Click "find now" <BR>> > 5. The

virus has a teddy bear icon with the name <BR>> > jdbgmgr.exe. DO NOT OPEN

IT <BR>> > 6. Go to edit (on the menu bar), choose "select all" to

<BR>> > highlight the file without opening it. <BR>> > 7. Now go to

the file (on the menu bar) and select delete. It<BR>will then go <BR>> >

to the recycle bin. <BR>IF YOU FIND THIS <BR>VIRUS,YOU MUST CONTACT <BR>ALL THE

PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK SO THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN<BR>THEIR OWN <BR>>

 ADDRESS BOOKS. To do this: <BR>> > (a) Open a new e-mail message

<BR>> > (b) Click on the icon of the address book next to the "TO"

<BR>> > (c) Highlight every name and add to "BCC" <BR>> > (d) Copy

this message above and paste to e-mail. <BR>> > (e) Enter subject

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See:



http://www.europe.f-secure.com/hoaxes/jdbgmgr.shtml



for info on this "virus".   The virus is the email itself.

jdbgmgr.exe is a normal Windows file and should

not be deleted. The site above gives you a pointer

on how to restore if you did delete it.





Jens





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From: "Jennifer Kramer" <dill-@worldnet.att.net>

To: "Barbara Lightheart" <beli-@texas.net>

Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 10:30 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat]





 Hi.

I apologize for the following, but I received a virus from a contact



today, something that is automatically forwarded to everyone in

one's

address book, so you probably got it. It takes effect in 14 days, so

urgent

that you deal with it immediately. Following are detailed

instructions on

how to remove it safely. If you got it, you will have to notify all

in your

address book too. Really sorry about this.



BlankA virus has been passed to me by a contact. My address book in

turn

  has been affected. Since you are in my address book there is a

good chance

  you > will find it in your computer too. I followed the

directions below

  and eradicated the virus easily. The virus > (called

jdbgmgr.exe) is not

  detected by Norton or McAfee anti-virus

systems.

The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system.

It is sent

  automatically by messenger and by the address book whether or

not you sent

  emails to your contacts. Here is how you check for the virus and

get rid of

  it.

1. Go to start, find or search option.

2. In the file/folders option, type the name: jdbgmgr.exe

3. Be sure to search your C: drive and all the subfolders and

any other

  drives you may have.

4. Click "find now"

5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name

jdbgmgr.exe. DO NOT OPEN IT

6. Go to edit (on the menu bar), choose "select all" to

highlight the file without opening it.

7. Now go to the file (on the menu bar) and select delete. It

will then go

  to the recycle bin.

IF YOU FIND THIS

VIRUS,YOU MUST CONTACT

ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK SO THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN

THEIR OWN

  ADDRESS BOOKS. To do this:

(a) Open a new e-mail message

(b) Click on the icon of the address book next to the "TO"

(c) Highlight every name and add to "BCC"

(d) Copy this message above and paste to e-mail.

(e) Enter subject

Apologies for the inconvenience and to those of you who have had

this message several times from different people!



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this is a hoax. this email message gets circulated

every couple of months. it's an actual windows file

that if people went to symantic's web site would

discover just that.

if you've already deleted it, don't worry it's not a

critical windows component.





--- Jennifer Kramer <dill-@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

 Hi.

I apologize for the following, but I received a

virus from a contact



today, something that is automatically forwarded to

everyone in

one's

address book, so you probably got it. It takes

effect in 14 days, so

urgent

that you deal with it immediately. Following are

detailed

instructions on

how to remove it safely. If you got it, you will

have to notify all

in your

address book too. Really sorry about this.



BlankA virus has been passed to me by a contact. My

address book in

turn

  has been affected. Since you are in my address

book there is a

good chance

  you > will find it in your computer too. I

followed the

directions below

  and eradicated the virus easily. The virus >

(called

jdbgmgr.exe) is not

  detected by Norton or McAfee anti-virus

systems.

The virus sits quietly for 14 days before

damaging the system.

It is sent

  automatically by messenger and by the address

book whether or

not you sent

  emails to your contacts. Here is how you check

for the virus and

get rid of

  it.

1. Go to start, find or search option.

2. In the file/folders option, type the name:

jdbgmgr.exe

  3. Be sure to search your C: drive and all the

subfolders and

any other

  drives you may have.

4. Click "find now"

5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name



  jdbgmgr.exe. DO NOT OPEN IT

6. Go to edit (on the menu bar), choose "select

all" to

  highlight the file without opening it.

7. Now go to the file (on the menu bar) and

select delete. It

will then go

  to the recycle bin.

IF YOU FIND THIS

VIRUS,YOU MUST CONTACT

ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK SO THEY CAN

ERADICATE IT IN

THEIR OWN

  ADDRESS BOOKS. To do this:

(a) Open a new e-mail message

(b) Click on the icon of the address book next

to the "TO"

  (c) Highlight every name and add to "BCC"

(d) Copy this message above and paste to e-mail.



  (e) Enter subject

Apologies for the inconvenience and to those of you

who have had

this message several times from different people!



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Steve said "I'm old (44) fat (174) and bald." Oh, what I would give to be

in your shoes. I'll keep my hair though.



Rootsgone said: "Any Master who maintains a Cat 1

 status should deffinitly not be racing in any local masters

event. Like one that has been posting on this subject that rode away from

the

 masters field at Banana Belt like they were riding in wheelchairs, that

just

 came off a season of racing as a pro for Mercury. Come on!!!"



Somebody should wear a disguise, ride their mothers' bike and slow down.

That would fix this whole mess.





Pat





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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Steve said "I'm old (44) fat (174) and bald."  Oh, what I would give to be in your shoes.  I'll keep my hair though.</FONT>

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Rootsgone said: "Any Master who maintains a Cat 1 </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> status should deffinitly not be racing in any local masters </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> event.  Like one that has been posting on this subject that rode away from the </FONT>

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Yeah, not only the best cheers, incredible support- even the insults! Plus we had the best beer wagon thanks to the Cross Crusade!

Thanks guys.

John Forbes

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To: ob-@topica.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:03 AM

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Also in the group C we had Super Dave Thomason at 11th. It should be noted that all of these riders had to a race against the Belgium and world masters champion.

I have to say to all the Oregonians who couldn't make it to Nationals not only did we race well we cheered even better. One could here from all over the course were we were from the cheers. I was totally exilerated during my race.

Don Leet

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also in the group C we had Super Dave Thomason at

11th. It should be noted that all of these riders had to a race against the

Belgium and world masters champion. </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have to say to all the Oregonians who couldn't

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could here from all over the course were we were from the cheers. I was

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Ken Finch

2002-07-18

Like almost all other "rants" this one comes down to

one thing: tolerance. We all live in a society

comprised of other people of varying background's and

upbringing's. This makes us all different. If people

truly have little tolerance for others differences, I

would assume they would move to the boondocks or Idaho

or something like that. If you're going to live in a

big city with lots of others, you better practice

tolerance.



I happen to be not overly fond of huge SUV's and most

any gasoline driven "recreational" device such as jet

skis and the like. But before I go ranting all over

against them and trying to get them banned, I better

think carefully about all the things I do that other

people might not like. Like riding my bike, or walking

my dog in the park (another popular "rant"), playing

my stereo loud....or whatever.



Most of these things people rant about are really

pretty petty annoyances in life and you'd think people

would learn to ignore them for the most part. Lest

other people try to control their lives in much the

same way.



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2002-07-18

 This is Scram's yearly rant. He is a avowed 'cyclist hater'. I >agree with some

of his points, but it would also be nice for him to 'share the >wealth' and

assign blame to some of the stellar motorists who share our >roads with us.



If Schram were a journalist...not a "commentator"...I suspect he would be more prone to backing up his opinions with facts.

Based on my experiences *inadvertently* hearing Schram's other rants during my 12 years in Seattle, he seems to hate a *lot* of people and things. I can only feel sorry for him, as he seems to be an unhappy person. Not that will stop me from responding to his rant with the objective, rational arguments of an experienced journalist ;-)



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Joe Cipale

2002-07-18

This is Scram's yearly rant. He ia avowed 'cyclist hater'. I agree with some

of his points, but it would also be nice for him to 'share the wealth' and

assign blame to some of the stellar motorists who share our roads with us.



Joe Cipale



On Thursday 18 July 2002 10:04 am, keith prior wrote:

 Of course he isn't talking about any of US!......Is he?!? hehehehehe

We all follow the rules........don't we?!?!

I am afraid I have to agree with him when it comes to the type of cyclists

he is complaining about. Those 'naughty' cyclists make us who behave and

obey the rules of the road look bad. He could have lumped all cyclists

together in one big evil clump but he didn't. He was very specific about

who should receive his barbs and I can't in all honesty flame this guy.

Don't get the idea that I like him or anything! hehehe This Ken Schram guy

is one big ugly dude! I bet he drives a Cadillac Escalade or Lincoln

Navigator or some other honkingly huge SUV! Don't worry....a few more years

of consuming sausages and cigar smoke and he won't be with us anymore.







   -K



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Dear Mr. Schram- You are absolutely right in your observation that

bicyclists frequently play "fast and lose" with traffic laws, I must confess

that I have myself run stop signs and red lights that I would never run in a

car. If you ever got on a bicycle yourself you might appreciate how much

more effort it take to pedal back to speed than to push your right foot

down. This does not justify these transgressions, it simple help to explain

them. Similarly, have you ever passed a bicyclist in a no passing zone? This

to would be a violation of the law, it puts the cyclists life in jeopardy so

that the motorist may continue drive at a speed they feel comfortable with.

   In a car, I am a speeder, I usually go a few miles an hour faster than

the posted limit. Almost every motorist on the road is. The few who obey the

laws are maligned as "Sunday drivers" or worse. As motorists we have all

somehow arrived at a feeling that we are entitled to drive fast. If the

posted speed limit is 45 that doesn't actually mean we don't have to slow

down on occasion, there is no God given right to speed.

   I recently rode the STP (Seattle to Portland) ride. I witnessed many

cases of cyclists flaunting the law, I agree it is nothing to be proud of. I

also witnessed two occasions of motorists at a stop sign who were "put out"

by having to wait for a bicycle to pass; on the first occasion the motorist

was so put out that they blasted the horn and stepped on the gas pealing out

into a group of cyclists while giving them the finger. His guy very nearly

killed three people. I cannot begin to recall how many roar raged drivers

have passed me, horn blaring, throttle opened, middle finger raised, for no

reason. I wasn't in the way or taking up more than 20 inches at the side of

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<TT>Dear Mr. Schram- You are absolutely right in your observation that bicyclists frequently play "fast and lose" with traffic laws, I must confess that I have myself run stop signs and red lights that I would never run in a car. If you ever got on a bicycle yourself you might appreciate how much more effort it take to pedal back to speed than to push your right foot down. This does not justify these transgressions, it simple help to explain them. Similarly, have you ever passed a bicyclist in a no passing zone? This to would be a violation of the law, it puts the cyclists life in jeopardy so that the motorist may continue drive at a speed they feel comfortable with.<BR>

   In a car, I am a speeder, I usually go a few miles an hour faster than the posted limit. Almost every motorist on the road is. The few who obey the laws are maligned as "Sunday drivers" or worse. As motorists we have all somehow arrived at a feeling that we are entitled to drive fast. If the posted speed limit is 45 that doesn't actually mean we don't have to slow down on occasion, there is no God given right to speed. <BR>

   I recently rode the STP (Seattle to Portland) ride. I witnessed many cases of cyclists flaunting the law, I agree it is nothing to be proud of. I also witnessed two occasions of motorists at a stop sign who were "put out" by having to wait for a bicycle to pass; on the first occasion the motorist was so put out that they blasted the horn and stepped on the gas pealing out into a group of cyclists while giving them the finger. His guy very nearly killed three people. I cannot begin to recall how many roar raged drivers have passed me, horn blaring, throttle opened, middle finger raised, for no reason. I wasn't in the way or taking up more than 20 inches at the side of the road. Wasn't  that you, or one of your friends Mr. Schram?</TT>







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Of course he isn't talking about any of US!......Is he?!? hehehehehe

We all follow the rules........don't we?!?!

I am afraid I have to agree with him when it comes to the type of cyclists he is complaining about.

Those 'naughty' cyclists make us who behave and obey the rules of the road look bad.

He could have lumped all cyclists together in one big evil clump but he didn't.

He was very specific about who should receive his barbs and I can't in all honesty flame this guy.

Don't get the idea that I like him or anything! hehehe This Ken Schram guy is one big ugly dude!

I bet he drives a Cadillac Escalade or Lincoln Navigator or some other honkingly huge SUV!

Don't worry....a few more years of consuming sausages and cigar smoke and he won't be with us anymore.







-K



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<DIV><SPAN class=210305216-18072002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Of

course he isn't talking about any of US!......Is he?!? 

hehehehehe</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=210305216-18072002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We all

follow the rules........don't we?!?!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=210305216-18072002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>I am afraid I have to agree with him when it comes to the type

of cyclists he is complaining about.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=210305216-18072002><SPAN class=210305216-18072002><FONT

face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Those 'naughty' cyclists make us who behave

and obey the rules of the road look bad.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=210305216-18072002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>He

could have lumped all cyclists together in one big evil clump but he

didn't.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=210305216-18072002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>He was

very specific about who should receive his barbs and I can't in all honesty

flame this guy.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=210305216-18072002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Don't

get the idea that I like him or anything! hehehe This Ken Schram guy is one big

ugly dude!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=210305216-18072002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I bet

he drives a Cadillac Escalade or Lincoln Navigator or some other honkingly huge

SUV!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=210305216-18072002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Don't

worry....a few more years of consuming sausages and cigar smoke and he won't be

with us anymore. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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in the subject heading. SOME OF US DON'T WANT THE RESULTS UNTIL WE SEE THE

OLN STUFF IN THE EVENING!!!!!

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Cycling-Armstrong wins second successive Tour stage





CHAMROUSSE, France, July 18 (Reuters) - Lance Armstrong won his second

successive stage on the Tour de France, a 32-kilometre time trial from

Grenoble to Chamrousse, beating his main rival Jan Ullrich by one minute on

Wednesday.



The American, who won the first mountain stage on Tuesday with a

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Francois Simon of France kept the yellow jersey of race leader with

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But Armstrong cut his deficit in the overall standings to just over 13

minutes, with three more mountain stages to come, and he leads Germany's

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Ullrich took second place with Spaniard Joseba Beloki third.



The Texan set the fastest time at every checkpoint on the punishing uphill

course on Wednesday, winning in a time of one hour seven minutes 27 seconds,

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2001-07-16

If you don't have OLN, you can listen to it live through the OLN website at

www.olntv.com



They also the save the previous broadcasts.



RB



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Doug Clark

2001-06-22

On 6/21/01 9:44 PM, "DaViD AuKeR" <dav-@hevanet.com> wrote:



 At ye olde Oktoberfest (Auktoberfest) Criterium in Mt. Angel, racing

through the barbeque smoke, I hit a dawg on the bottom corner, flipped

and rolled, almost interrupting the Bavarian chicken and saurkraut meal

of spectator. Doggy hair was in my chainwheel. They said I killed the

dog, but I never saw the body.



Dang! I remember that one... A long time ago in a galaxy far far away...



But was it a corn dog or a shih tzu?



Later,              Doug