James S wrote: "Who says it has to be anything like the size of Interbike?"
We do - 'cause "Oregon Loves Dreamers"
Rick
James S wrote:
> I think a bike convention in Portland would draw a lot of people
> (assuming it was open to the public). Who says it has to be anythink
> like the size of Interbike?
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> 3. Re: Corgi barrier pic (Martin Baker)
> 4. Re: Eurobike... (David Hart)
> 5. Re: Mast B Bicycle Attorney rider (Mike Murray)
> 6. Re: Mast B Bicycle Attorney rider (Jon Frommelt)
> 7. Re: Eurobike Show in Portland (Jeff Wills)
> 8. Re: Eurobike Show in Portland (Thomas Hoffman)
> 9. Re: Eurobike Show in Portland (Rick C Johnson)
> 10. Re: Eurobike Show in Portland (Rick C Johnson)
> 11. Re: Eurobike Show in Portland (Jonathan Maus)
> 12. Eugene Cross Race this weekend (Richard Sweet)
> 13. Re: Eurobike Show in Portland (Jeff Wills)
> 14. The one with the hand-carved flowers in the lugs (Conor Buescher)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:40:42 -0800
> From: "Jens Heycke" < jens@heycke.com >
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Corgi barrier pic
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Martin Baker
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:06 AM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Corgi barrier pic
>
>
> At flying M on Sunday, someone snapped a great picture of my Welsh
> Corgi getting some barrier practice before the women's race. If
> you are on the list or if anyone know who took the pic, I would
> love to get a copy. Thanks!
>
>
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> Martin
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> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:48:32 +0000
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> What a laugh!! Between that and O'Grady my day has been made!
> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/11124.0.html
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>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Martin Baker
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:06 AM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Corgi barrier pic
>
>
> At flying M on Sunday, someone snapped a great picture of my Welsh
> Corgi getting some barrier practice before the women?s race. If
> you are on the list or if anyone know who took the pic, I would
> love to get a copy. Thanks!
>
> Martin
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> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:55:26 -0800
> From: "Martin Baker" >
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Corgi barrier pic
> To: "'Jens Heycke'" < jens@heycke.com
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> Oooh, close. But mine's a tri-color. And he doesn't have the tattoo.
>
>
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> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ] On
> Behalf Of Jens Heycke
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:41 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Corgi barrier pic
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Martin > Baker
>
> To: obra@list.obra.org
>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:06 AM
>
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Corgi barrier pic
>
>
>
> At flying M on Sunday, someone snapped a great picture of my Welsh
> Corgi
> getting some barrier practice before the women's race. If you are
> on the
> list or if anyone know who took the pic, I would love to get a
> copy. Thanks!
>
>
>
> Martin
>
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> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:55:05 -0800
> From: "David Hart" < suckwheel@gmail.com >
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eurobike...
> To: "Keith A. Prior" >
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
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> I would think that a lot of racers race out of shop. I think if
> staffing
> was a problem that the solution could be that racers could
> represents these
> shops and that could be a volunteer thing. I think with the careful
> planning that the show wouldn't hurt shops. Maybe one employee
> could work
> along some non empoyee racer so that the other staff could tend to
> the bike
> shop. I have been part of a trade show (not cycling related) but
> with so
> many interested people, it can happen and be fruitful for
> shops. I would
> not have a problem working the show for my bike shop. I think it
> would be a
> great experience.
>
> Let's see what happens in the months to come.
>
> David Hart
> CRV
> River City Bicycles
>
>
> On 10/31/06, Keith A. Prior > wrote:
> >
> > So!
> >
> > Now that Eurobike may put Portland on the 'world map' as a major
> cycling
> > city maybe some wealthy
> > German or Belgian person will build us an indoor track! Hmmm...The
> > Portland Six has a nice ring to it!!
> >
> > -K
> >
> >
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> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:04:33 -0800
> From: "Mike Murray" < mike.murray@obra.org
> >
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Mast B Bicycle Attorney rider
> To: "'Joel Morrissette'" >
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <001a01c6fd5a$169ade50$9701a8c0@MikeLT>
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> http://www.finishlynx.com/
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Morrissette [mailto:news4joel@gmail.com
> ]
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 19:20 PM
> To: mike.murray@obra.org
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Mast B Bicycle Attorney rider
>
>
> Inquiring geeks want to know - could you post a link to more info
> about how
> the system works? I recall you did in the past, but I can't find
> the email.
>
> Thanks,
> Joel
>
>
> On 10/30/06, Mike Murray > wrote:
>
> Actually the image is considerably more narrow than 1 cm. The
> width of the
> subject in each frame depends on the lens and the distance from
> the camera.
> The system scans up to 2000 lines each second. These vertical
> lines are
> then assembled into a picture. This picture is not really a
> picture of
> anything that really existed but is actually a graph with the
> horizontal
> representing time and the vertical being what was on the line at
> that time.
> Things that are moving fast appear more narrow and things that
> move slow are
> wider. Since the spokes at the top of the wheel are going twice
> as fast as
> the ones at the bottom relative to a stationary observer they get
> squeezed
> together at the top and stretched apart at the bottom. This
> causes them to
> look bent. Trispokes look even sillier.
>
> Mike Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ] On
> Behalf Of Jesse J. Finch Gnehm
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 15:28 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Mast B Bicycle Attorney rider
>
>
> I believe they look that way because the finish line camera only
> records
> a 1cm picture and the image is the composite of the person
> crossing the
> line. As a result, the spokes change position in each part (frame) of
> the image as the rider rolls across the line.
>
> Eric Kytola wrote:
> > what kind of spokes are those.....al dente?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ]
> > On Behalf Of Candi Murray
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:55 PM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Mast B Bicycle Attorney rider
> >
> > Anyone know who this is?
> >
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> --
> Jesse J. Finch Gnehm '99
> Director of Parent Giving
> Willamette University
> 503-375-5319
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:38:21 -0800
> From: "Jon Frommelt" >
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Mast B Bicycle Attorney rider
> To: >
> Message-ID: >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I think I can contribute to this geeky discussion a bit. . .
>
> First, let me say that the unidentified rider was, in fact,
> me. Apologies
> to the officiating staff for making the puzzle more complicated
> than it
> needed to be.
>
> One minor clarification to Mike's description: the bottom of the
> wheel is
> actually NOT moving relative to the ground--it is going exactly
> zero miles
> per hour (provided your not locking up the brakes or spinning
> out). The hub
> is moving at the speed of the bike, and the top of the wheel is
> moving twice
> the speed of the bike.
>
> As to the details of how the image is created, you can see the
> vertical
> images that the camera captures by zooming in on the
> photograph. You will
> see that the spokes are individual straight sections that, when
> combined and
> viewed as a composite, appear curved.
>
> As the front of the wheel entered the frame, a thin vertical slice
> of the
> image was taken. At the next moment in time, another slice was
> captured,
> but the wheel had rotated slightly. Repeat, and you get the al
> dente spokes
> in the final image.
>
> Since the spokes on the top of the wheel are moving increasingly
> rapidly the
> farther they are away from the ground when the pass the finish
> line, they
> are captured in fewer "slices" of time and therefore are less
> distorted.
>
> Jon Frommelt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ] On
> Behalf Of Mike Murray
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:05 PM
> To: 'Joel Morrissette'
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Mast B Bicycle Attorney rider
>
> http://www.finishlynx.com/
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Morrissette [mailto: news4joel@gmail.com
> ]
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 19:20 PM
> To: mike.murray@obra.org
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Mast B Bicycle Attorney rider
>
>
> Inquiring geeks want to know - could you post a link to
> more info
> about how the system works? I recall you did in the past, but I
> can't find
> the email.
>
> Thanks,
> Joel
>
>
> On 10/30/06, Mike Murray > wrote:
>
> Actually the image is considerably more narrow than
> 1 cm.
> The width of the
> subject in each frame depends on the lens and the
> distance
> from the camera.
> The system scans up to 2000 lines each second. These
> vertical lines are
> then assembled into a picture. This picture is not
> really a
> picture of
> anything that really existed but is actually a
> graph with
> the horizontal
> representing time and the vertical being what was
> on the
> line at that time.
> Things that are moving fast appear more narrow and
> things
> that move slow are
> wider. Since the spokes at the top of the wheel
> are going
> twice as fast as
> the ones at the bottom relative to a stationary
> observer
> they get squeezed
> together at the top and stretched apart at the
> bottom. This
> causes them to
> look bent. Trispokes look even sillier.
>
> Mike Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ] On
> Behalf Of Jesse J. Finch Gnehm
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 15:28 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Mast B Bicycle Attorney rider
>
>
> I believe they look that way because the finish
> line camera
> only records
> a 1cm picture and the image is the composite of the
> person
> crossing the
> line. As a result, the spokes change position in
> each part
> (frame) of
> the image as the rider rolls across the line.
>
> Eric Kytola wrote:
> > what kind of spokes are those.....al dente?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ]
> > On Behalf Of Candi Murray
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:55 PM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Mast B Bicycle Attorney rider
> >
> > Anyone know who this is?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
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>
> --
> Jesse J. Finch Gnehm '99
> Director of Parent Giving
> Willamette University
> 503-375-5319
>
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>
>
> --
> __o "It never gets easier,
> _ \<_ you just go faster."
> (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 06:43:50 +0000
> From: Jeff_Wills@comcast.net (Jeff
> Wills)
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eurobike Show in Portland
> To: OBRA >
> Message-ID:
>
> <110120060643.11859.454842260003409900002E5322058863609C040407A9A100000AB6@comcast.net
> >
>
>
> >Even better would be to wrest Interbike from the slimy tentacles
> of the
> >city of vacuous puss and bring it to Portland for two consecutive
> >weekends of bicycle fanaticism.
> >The whole idea of it makes me giddy...
> >
> >Rick
>
> One problem with that is Interbike is too large for the Oregon
> Convention Center. The last edition was 310,000 square feet, where
> the OCC maxs out at about 300,000 square feet *if* you add in the
> ball rooms. . Another is that the exhibitors wouldn't last through
> "two consecutive weekends" of the trade show grind. I came back
> from four days working at Interbike feeling like ground hamburger,
> and it usually took me 3 weeks to get my voice back.
>
> It would be cool, though.
>
> My experience (as shop rat, warehouse rat, and exhibitor) with
> bike trade shows goes back before Interbike to the old BDS
> (Bicycle Dealer Showcase) Expo. Those were usually closed to the
> general public, except for the last year or two. The "open to the
> public" days were disasters- people were either looking for free
> samples or simply stealing from the exhibitors.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Wills
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Make plans now to attend the Portland Human Power Challenge:
> http://www.ohpv.org/PIR/index.htm
> and the Recumbent Retreat:
> http://www.recumbentretreat.org/
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:50:34 -0800
> From: "Thomas Hoffman" >
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eurobike Show in Portland
> To: "'Jeff Wills'" >, "'OBRA'"
> >
> Message-ID: < 0J820070M6OHIBO6@vms044.mailsrvcs.net
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> That is what I've been thinking,
>
> Interbike is HUGH!!!!
>
> As cool as having a major show in PDX would be, I don't think we
> have the
> hotel rooms to support it. Don't count on it being open to the
> public. The
> show hasn't even hired a local event planning service.
>
>
> ~~)(~~-----Original Message-----
> ~~)(~~From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ]
> On
> ~~)(~~Behalf Of Jeff Wills
> ~~)(~~Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:44 PM
> ~~)(~~To: OBRA
> ~~)(~~Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eurobike Show in Portland
> ~~)(~~
> ~~)(~~>Even better would be to wrest Interbike from the slimy
> tentacles of
> the
> ~~)(~~>city of vacuous puss and bring it to Portland for two
> consecutive
> ~~)(~~>weekends of bicycle fanaticism.
> ~~)(~~>The whole idea of it makes me giddy...
> ~~)(~~>
> ~~)(~~>Rick
> ~~)(~~
> ~~)(~~One problem with that is Interbike is too large for the Oregon
> Convention
> ~~)(~~Center. The last edition was 310,000 square feet, where the
> OCC maxs
> out at
> ~~)(~~about 300,000 square feet *if* you add in the ball rooms. .
> Another is
> that the
> ~~)(~~exhibitors wouldn't last through "two consecutive weekends"
> of the
> trade show
> ~~)(~~grind. I came back from four days working at Interbike
> feeling like
> ground
> ~~)(~~hamburger, and it usually took me 3 weeks to get my voice back.
> ~~)(~~
> ~~)(~~It would be cool, though.
> ~~)(~~
> ~~)(~~My experience (as shop rat, warehouse rat, and exhibitor)
> with bike
> trade
> ~~)(~~shows goes back before Interbike to the old BDS (Bicycle Dealer
> Showcase)
> ~~)(~~Expo. Those were usually closed to the general public,
> except for the
> last year
> ~~)(~~or two. The "open to the public" days were disasters- people
> were
> either
> ~~)(~~looking for free samples or simply stealing from the
> exhibitors.
> ~~)(~~
> ~~)(~~
> ~~)(~~--
> ~~)(~~Jeff Wills
> ~~)(~~
> ~~)(~~------------------------------------------------------------
> ~~)(~~Make plans now to attend the Portland Human Power Challenge:
> ~~)(~~http://www.ohpv.org/PIR/index.htm
> ~~)(~~and the Recumbent Retreat:
> ~~)(~~http://www.recumbentretreat.org/
> ~~)(~~------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 08:05:36 -0800
> From: Rick C Johnson >
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eurobike Show in Portland
> To: Jeff Wills >
> Cc: OBRA >
> Message-ID: < 4548C5D0.3050204@attglobal.net
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Actually the Oregon Convention Center boasts of 315,000 sq/ft when
> combined with the Portland and Oregon Ballrooms.
>
> http://www.pova.org/meeting_planners/facilities/convention_ctr.html
>
> Rick
>
>
> Jeff Wills wrote:
>
> >>Even better would be to wrest Interbike from the slimy tentacles
> of the
> >>city of vacuous puss and bring it to Portland for two consecutive
> >>weekends of bicycle fanaticism.
> >>The whole idea of it makes me giddy...
> >>
> >>Rick
> >>
> >>
> >
> >One problem with that is Interbike is too large for the Oregon
> Convention Center. The last edition was 310,000 square feet, where
> the OCC maxs out at about 300,000 square feet *if* you add in the
> ball rooms. . Another is that the exhibitors wouldn't last through
> "two consecutive weekends" of the trade show grind. I came back
> from four days working at Interbike feeling like ground hamburger,
> and it usually took me 3 weeks to get my voice back.
> >
> >It would be cool, though.
> >
> >My experience (as shop rat, warehouse rat, and exhibitor) with
> bike trade shows goes back before Interbike to the old BDS
> (Bicycle Dealer Showcase) Expo. Those were usually closed to the
> general public, except for the last year or two. The "open to the
> public" days were disasters- people were either looking for free
> samples or simply stealing from the exhibitors.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Jeff Wills
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------
> >Make plans now to attend the Portland Human Power Challenge:
> > http://www.ohpv.org/PIR/index.htm
> >and the Recumbent Retreat:
> >http://www.recumbentretreat.org/
> >------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 08:10:59 -0800
> From: Rick C Johnson >
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eurobike Show in Portland
> To: 'OBRA' >
> Message-ID: <4548C713.7000903@attglobal.net
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> "Number of Hotel Rooms in Metro Area: 20,000"
>
> http://www.pova.org/meeting_planners/planners_briefing.html
>
> Rick
>
>
> Thomas Hoffman wrote:
>
> >That is what I've been thinking,
> >
> >Interbike is HUGH!!!!
> >
> >As cool as having a major show in PDX would be, I don't think we
> have the
> >hotel rooms to support it. Don't count on it being open to the
> public. The
> >show hasn't even hired a local event planning service.
> >
> >
> >~~)(~~-----Original Message-----
> >~~)(~~From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> ]
> >On
> >~~)(~~Behalf Of Jeff Wills
> >~~)(~~Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:44 PM
> >~~)(~~To: OBRA
> >~~)(~~Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eurobike Show in Portland
> >~~)(~~
> >~~)(~~>Even better would be to wrest Interbike from the slimy
> tentacles of
> >the
> >~~)(~~>city of vacuous puss and bring it to Portland for two
> consecutive
> >~~)(~~>weekends of bicycle fanaticism.
> >~~)(~~>The whole idea of it makes me giddy...
> >~~)(~~>
> >~~)(~~>Rick
> >~~)(~~
> >~~)(~~One problem with that is Interbike is too large for the Oregon
> >Convention
> >~~)(~~Center. The last edition was 310,000 square feet, where the
> OCC maxs
> >out at
> >~~)(~~about 300,000 square feet *if* you add in the ball rooms. .
> Another is
> >that the
> >~~)(~~exhibitors wouldn't last through "two consecutive weekends"
> of the
> >trade show
> >~~)(~~grind. I came back from four days working at Interbike
> feeling like
> >ground
> >~~)(~~hamburger, and it usually took me 3 weeks to get my voice back.
> >~~)(~~
> >~~)(~~It would be cool, though.
> >~~)(~~
> >~~)(~~My experience (as shop rat, warehouse rat, and exhibitor)
> with bike
> >trade
> >~~)(~~shows goes back before Interbike to the old BDS (Bicycle Dealer
> >Showcase)
> >~~)(~~Expo. Those were usually closed to the general public,
> except for the
> >last year
> >~~)(~~or two. The "open to the public" days were disasters-
> people were
> >either
> >~~)(~~looking for free samples or simply stealing from the
> exhibitors.
> >~~)(~~
> >~~)(~~
> >~~)(~~--
> >~~)(~~Jeff Wills
> >~~)(~~
> >~~)(~~------------------------------------------------------------
> >~~)(~~Make plans now to attend the Portland Human Power Challenge:
> >~~)(~~http://www.ohpv.org/PIR/index.htm
> >~~)(~~and the Recumbent Retreat:
> >~~)(~~http://www.recumbentretreat.org/
> >~~)(~~------------------------------------------------------------
> >~~)(~~_______________________________________________
> >~~)(~~OBRA mailing list
> >~~)(~~obra@list.obra.org
> >~~)(~~http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> >~~)(~~Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
> >
> >
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> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:13:24 -0800
> From: "Jonathan Maus" >
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eurobike Show in Portland
> To: >,
> "OBRA list" >
> Message-ID: <000f01c6fdd0$a9f812f0$0300a8c0@laptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> I addressed this and some other information in a post I published
> yesterday:
>
> "Reactions and thoughts on Eurobike Portland"
> http://bikeportland.org/2006/10/31/reactions-and-thoughts-on-eurobike-portland/
>
>
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/yzbqg8
>
> I'll be covering this story as close as I can so stay tuned for
> more developments....
> cheers,
> --Jonathan
> -----------------------------
> Jonathan Maus
> BikePortland.org
> "Daily news, culture, events and opinion"
> www.BikePortland.org
> (503) 706-8804
>
>
> On 11/1/2006 8:05:36 AM, rcjohnson1@attglobal.net
> wrote:
> > Actually the Oregon Convention Center boasts of 315,000 sq/ft when
> > combined with the Portland and Oregon Ballrooms.
> >
> > http://www.pova.org/meeting_planners/facilities/convention_ctr.html
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > Jeff Wills wrote:
> >
> > >>Even better would be to wrest Interbike from the slimy
> tentacles of the
> >
> > >>city of vacuous puss and bring it to Portland for two consecutive
> > >>weekends of bicycle fanaticism.
> > >>The whole idea of it makes me giddy...
> > >>
> > >>Rick
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >One problem with that is Interbike is too large for the Oregon
> Convention
> > Center. The last edition was 310,000 square feet, where the OCC
> maxs out
> > at about 300,000 square feet *if* you add in the ball rooms. .
> Another is
> > that the exhibitors wouldn't last through "two consecutive
> weekends" of the trade show grind. I came back from four days
> working at Interbike feeling like ground hamburger, and it usually
> took me 3 weeks to get my voice back.
> > >
> > >It would be cool, though.
> > >
> > >My experience (as shop rat, warehouse rat, and exhibitor) with
> bike trade shows goes back before Interbike to the old BDS
> (Bicycle Dealer Showcase) Expo. Those were usually closed to the
> general public, except for the la
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:52:29 -0800
> From: Richard Sweet >
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Eugene Cross Race this weekend
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <4548d0cd12db0_34e21580c8132748151@lizard.tmail
> >
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>
> Don't forget about Midtowns CX race this coming Saturday in
> Eugene. They did an excellent job at the last race.
>
> More info here: http://www.uoregon.edu/~oberryma/foxhollowgp/
>
>
> It's a perfect weekend to get two chances to race just before the
> state championships on November 12th.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:12:22 +0000
> From: Jeff_Wills@comcast.net (Jeff
> Wills)
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Eurobike Show in Portland
> To: RCJohnson1@attglobal.net
> Cc: OBRA >
> Message-ID:
>
> <110120061812.14270.4548E38600061743000037BE22007511509C040407A9A100000AB6@comcast.net
> >
>
>
> So I can't add... :-)
>
> Nevertheless, it would be a tight squeeze. Tom pointed out that
> there may not be enough hotel rooms to support something of this
> size, too.
>
> The sad part of this announcement is that we probably *won't* see
> the North American Handmade Bicycle Show in Portland:
> http://bikeportland.org/2006/10/31/eurobike-portland-means-no-nahbs/
>
> Grrr....
>
> --
> Jeff Wills
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Rick C Johnson >
> > Actually the Oregon Convention Center boasts of 315,000 sq/ft when
> > combined with the Portland and Oregon Ballrooms.
> >
> > http://www.pova.org/meeting_planners/facilities/convention_ctr.html
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > Jeff Wills wrote:
> >
> > >>Even better would be to wrest Interbike from the slimy
> tentacles of the
> > >>city of vacuous puss and bring it to Portland for two consecutive
> > >>weekends of bicycle fanaticism.
> > >>The whole idea of it makes me giddy...
> > >>
> > >>Rick
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >One problem with that is Interbike is too large for the Oregon
> Convention
> > Center. The last edition was 310,000 square feet, where the OCC
> maxs out at
> > about 300,000 square feet *if* you add in the ball rooms. .
> Another is that the
> > exhibitors wouldn't last through "two consecutive weekends" of
> the trade show
> > grind. I came back from four days working at Interbike feeling
> like ground
> > hamburger, and it usually took me 3 weeks to get my voice back.
> > >
> > >It would be cool, though.
> > >
> > >My experience (as shop rat, warehouse rat, and exhibitor) with
> bike trade shows
> > goes back before Interbike to the old BDS (Bicycle Dealer
> Showcase) Expo. Those
> > were usually closed to the general public, except for the last
> year or two. The
> > "open to the public" days were disasters- people were either
> looking for free
> > samples or simply stealing from the exhibitors.
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Jeff Wills
> > >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------
> > >Make plans now to attend the Portland Human Power Challenge:
> > >http://www.ohpv.org/PIR/index.htm
>
> > >and the Recumbent Retreat:
> > >http://www.recumbentretreat.org/
> > >------------------------------------------------------------
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >OBRA mailing list
> > >obra@list.obra.org
> > >http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > >Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:05:03 -0800
> From: Conor Buescher >
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The one with the hand-carved flowers in the lugs
> To: >
> Message-ID: >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Obra-land,
>
> I just thought I would update everyone with our latest Vendetta
> Cycles frame
> build. I?ve had several inquires as to the status of the frame
> with the
> ?flowers cut in the lugs? and well ? it?s finished.
>
> The frame features hand-cut lugs in the shape of Daisies in both the
> upper-head lug and the seat lug. The lower head lug is also
> carved albeit
> without the Daisies. The frame was finished by Acme Paint with a
> deep and
> rich red pearl paint job.
>
> Columbus Zona tubing, the aforementioned hand-carved Pacenti lugs and
> polished Henry James stainless steel dropouts help create the
> smooth riding
> frame while a mixture of Campy Chorus and Centaur components along
> with
> hand-built wheels on Record hubs complete the rolling bicycle
>
> Check out the bike gallery at:
> http://www.vendettacycles.com/vendettacycles/gallery/daisy/index.html
>
> The main gallery page can be seen here:
> http://www.vendettacycles.com/vendettacycles/gallery.htm
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Conor Buescher
> conorb@comcast.net
> conorb@vendettacycles.com
>
>
> >
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:36:52 -0800
> From: Conor Buescher >
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: BNIB Campy Centaur 10spd Compact Frt. Der.
> (braze-on)
> To: >
> Message-ID: >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> For Sale; brand new in box Campy 10spd Compact Front Derailleur
> for braze-on
> mount.
>
> Derailleur is normal Silver anodized finish NOT Century Gray.
>
> $35.00, Paypal okay, shipped CONUS.
>
> Pictures available on request.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Conor Buescher
> conorb@comcast.net
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