Doug Hormann
Thanks Dan and with respects to Craig, hydroplaning on bike tires is just
not a problem. In 1986 I competed in the Salem Triathlon, doing the bike leg
on Avocet Fastgrips, which were a completely slick tire. During the race,
Salem got about an inch and a half of rain and going from the swim to the
bike leg didn't seem like much of a difference. I remember it because of
all the people who were warning me of impending trauma the first time I went
around a corner in the rain. I had absolutely no problem and took third in
my age group. To this day I prefer slick tires rain or shine due to their
superior traction. As an aside, my son raced BMX for three years from age
5-7. The entire time he raced on slicks or file tread tubulars (only because
we couldn't find slick tubulars in a 20" tire). While I wouldn't recommend
it for CCX or mountain biking on loose or wet terrain, on firm ground
(hardpack) slicks simply work better than anything with tread.
Doug
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
Behalf Of Dan H
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:25 PM
To: Craig Austin; Rick Johnson; Erik Voldengen
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Good Tires For Winter Riding
O.K., I tried to stay out of it but when more than one person refers to
water channeling tread, I have to speak up.
Figure there's about 80 to 100 lbs of pressure depending on the rider and
balance on the rear tire contact patch which is about the size of a quarter
or maybe a .50 cent piece if the tire is fatter with lower pressure.
remember the tire has sort of a round shape unlike a car tire that is more
flat and goes way faster. My point is that hydroplaning is not an issue with
bicycle tires and any tread is a marketing gimmick so all tires don't look
alike. Any tread is a spot where no rubber is touching the road and
therefore no traction. The ideal tread would be totally slick with all the
traction control in the compound, not the tread pattern.
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Austin
To: Rick Johnson ; Erik Voldengen
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Good Tires For Winter Riding
I third the vote for gatorskins, or vittorias, or rivendells, or just
about anything other than the armadillos; armadillos are not only way slick
in the rain, they're dang near impossible to change with cold, wet fingers
if you DO get a flat. Too stiff and they don't channel water at all. They're
durable, but I'd never ride a set on wet roads.
Craig
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Rick Johnson
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:22 PM
To: Erik Voldengen
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Good Tires For Winter Riding
I second the vote on the Gatorskins.
http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/them
es/tires/race/ultra_gatorskin/ultra_gatorskin_en.html
Rick
Erik Voldengen wrote:
Those are great winter tires. Conti Gatorskins are great, too. A little
more grippy as well.
-Erik
-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Mann
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:03 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Good Tires For Winter Riding
In terms of Durability, what are the best tires (700c)for winter riding (I
despise flats during the winter). I'm looking at the Specialized
Armadillo, but I haven't had them before.
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