new bicycle passing bill in CA

G Magnus

2006-12-22


If such a law were created in our fair state it would take some publicity to make it worth while.  The newly amended yield to a pedestrian in a cross walk and wacky school speed laws are prime examples.  Both of those laws when they changed were covered heavily in the media and many drivers over react to both laws still.  Though creating a new law still is only as good as witnesses and those involved in incidents to have them enforced.


~Gregg Magnus 





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Malcolm, Gary

2006-12-22

Joe,

Creating the explicit rule that 'buzzing' cyclists is illegal might add a
little disincentive to punish cyclists for mere existence.

I'd still rather take down the plate number and call at their home for a
discussion later. You might be shocked how amazingly effective driver
courtesy chats (with a smile) work in front of the wife and kids.

:-)

Gary Malcolm


Joe Cipale

2006-12-22

Evan MacKenzie wrote:

> From a story in the Sacramento Bee: (You must register with the Bee in
> order to view the entire article.)
>
> *The tragic death of a tri-athlete student while bicycling in southern
> California has sparked a bill to create a three-foot buffer for any
> vehicle passing a cyclist – but will it create more problems than it
> attempts to solve?*
>
> "Current California law does not specify a minimum clearance but says
> motorists must pass to the left at a 'safe distance without
> interfering with the safe operation' of a bicycle."
>
> "Violators would be subject to base fines of $250, rising to about
> $875 once local fees are tacked on. Motorists could be charged
> criminally if a bicyclist were killed or seriously injured."
>
> "Statewide, bicycle collisions killed an average of 123 people and
> injured 11,101 annually from 2000 to 2005, according to the California
> Highway Patrol, which does not keep tabs on how many crashes stemmed
> from an unsafe pass."
>
> "Opponents argue AB 60 would create unintended consequences in a state
> stretching hundreds of miles, with roads generally 11 or 12 feet wide,
> not counting shoulders or parking slots."
>
> Link to actual bill:
>
> http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_0051-0100/ab_60_bill_20061204_introduced.html
>
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My opinion is:
You cant legislate defensive driving skills...

With the loss of 'drivers education' from many school districts
(Washington is a prime example), student
drivers are now forced to get their driver's education through such
magnificent entities as 'Sears Driving
School', or Acme Driving Academy. With the goal being to shuttle as many
students through the doors
as possible, regardless of what they learn and how well they can apply
the rules and courtesies of the
road to vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, etc.

The drivers ed courses I took were from state certified drivers ed
teachers who were also teachers at the
school district itself. They had a vested interest in seeing their
students succeed and do well. That meant
they taught such things as being aware of not just motor vehicles and
pedestrains, but also farm vehicles,
motorcycles, bicycles, livestock.

The California Assembly can legislate as wide a buffer zone as they
want, but if students ARE NOT TAUGHT
the rules of the road and who is allowed to use the road, then this is
just another piece of meaningless
legislation. Regardless of how well intentioned it may be.

Joe


Mark J. Ginsberg

2006-12-22

without really getting into the issue, I think the article means LANES not roads that are 11-12 ft wide.

Mark Ginsberg


Evan MacKenzie wrote: st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } From a story in the Sacramento Bee: (You must register with the Bee in order to view the entire article.)
The tragic death of a tri-athlete student while bicycling in southern California has sparked a bill to create a three-foot buffer for any vehicle passing a cyclist ? but will it create more problems than it attempts to solve?
"Current California law does not specify a minimum clearance but says motorists must pass to the left at a 'safe distance without interfering with the safe operation' of a bicycle."
"Violators would be subject to base fines of $250, rising to about $875 once local fees are tacked on. Motorists could be charged criminally if a bicyclist were killed or seriously injured."
"Statewide, bicycle collisions killed an average of 123 people and injured 11,101 annually from 2000 to 2005, according to the California Highway Patrol, which does not keep tabs on how many crashes stemmed from an unsafe pass."
"Opponents argue AB 60 would create unintended consequences in a state stretching hundreds of miles, with roads generally 11 or 12 feet wide, not counting shoulders or parking slots."


Link to actual bill:
http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_0051-0100/ab_60_bill_20061204_introduced.html


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Evan MacKenzie

2006-12-22

From a story in the Sacramento Bee: (You must register with the Bee in
order to view the entire article.)

The tragic death of a tri-athlete student while bicycling in southern
California has sparked a bill to create a three-foot buffer for any
vehicle passing a cyclist - but will it create more problems than it
attempts to solve?

"Current California law does not specify a minimum clearance but says
motorists must pass to the left at a 'safe distance without interfering
with the safe operation' of a bicycle."

"Violators would be subject to base fines of $250, rising to about $875
once local fees are tacked on. Motorists could be charged criminally if
a bicyclist were killed or seriously injured."

"Statewide, bicycle collisions killed an average of 123 people and
injured 11,101 annually from 2000 to 2005, according to the California
Highway Patrol, which does not keep tabs on how many crashes stemmed
from an unsafe pass."

"Opponents argue AB 60 would create unintended consequences in a state
stretching hundreds of miles, with roads generally 11 or 12 feet wide,
not counting shoulders or parking slots."

Link to actual bill:

http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_0051-0100/ab_60_bill_2006120
4_introduced.html