Ty Lambert
FYI-
As of today VS also comes in high def., channel 732. This should be very
cool for the tour.
Ty Lambert
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Oliphant"
To:
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
> OLN is now called Versus - VS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To: ;
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>> Never mind my message last week, I went home and checked and yes we do
>> in fact have OLN/Versus with our basic service. Not sure what happened
>> in that short period last year. What ever it was, glad to have it now.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jef Fowler
>> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:38 PM
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>> Follow-up from last message
>>
>> I live in Lair Hill just SW of Ross Island bridge (great view of the
>> tram).
>>
>> I got cable for the internet access and bought into basic (same cost as
>> for Qwest DSL after dropping the landline phone). It could be that
>> there is more bandwidth when internet access is included.
>>
>> Back in MA I cancelled the cable TV, kept cable internet but always had
>> access to local TV and premium basic (CNN etc). It never went away.
>> Any cable-guys here care to explain?
>>
>> Jef
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: obra-request@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-request@list.obra.org]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:00 PM
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: OBRA Digest, Vol 13, Issue 29
>>
>>
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. 'Cross Photos from Mark Matson (P Kudszus)
>> 2. Teams 2 (Quenton Conant)
>> 3. OT: looking for realtors (Chris Harnish, M.S.)
>> 4. FS: Dura Ace WH-7801-SL wheelset new price (Ryan Weaver)
>> 5. Re: OT: looking for realtors (l j)
>> 6. Re: OT: looking for realtors (Thomas Hoffman)
>> 7. 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial (Erik Voldengen)
>> 8. Photos: Cleaning House (shane.young@comcast.net)
>> 9. Bad News from Comcast (John Schader)
>> 10. Re: Bad News from Comcast (Erik Voldengen)
>> 11. Re: Bad News from Comcast (Aaron.Leritz@CH2M.com)
>> 12. Re: Bad News from Comcast (Denham, Mitch)
>> 13. Re: Bad News from Comcast (garymedley@comcast.net)
>> 14. Re: Bad News from Comcast (Ben Rasche)
>> 15. Re: Bad News from Comcast (Thomas Hoffman)
>> 16. Re: 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial (Glen Gann)
>> 17. Team Expresscopy Event (oregonyankee@comcast.net)
>> 18. PACE Trek Across America - The Sequel (Heather VanValkenburg)
>> 19. Free nightrider accesories (Michael Benno)
>> 20. FS: 105 Fr. Derailleur 10 speed (Tim Schauer)
>> 21. Re: Bad News from Comcast (david baker)
>> 22. CCX Worlds Jr's (Wade Goff)
>> 23. 2007 XTR wheelset (Brig Brandt)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:44:27 -0800 (PST)
>> From: P Kudszus
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 'Cross Photos from Mark Matson
>> To: OBRA
>> Message-ID: <196032.16739.qm@web53712.mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> http://www.cyclocrossworld.com/Pictures.cfm?t=2&tKey=643&ShowDisabled=0&
>> C=2&
>> back2=home
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:03:44 -0800
>> From: "Quenton Conant"
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Teams 2
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm in the same boat as Eric Y. I' m looking for a team that has space
>> available for 4/5 members. I don't minds racing solo, but the more I
>> think about it the more I like the idea of having people to work with,
>> and people to train with. I think one can only get to be so good by
>> themselves, that they need a team to develop the rest.
>>
>> Any eastside, or close in teams?
>> Regards,
>> Quenton
>>
>> --
>> " There is nothing but atoms and space,
>> everything else is only an opinion"
>> - Democritus from Abdera
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:53:09 -0500
>> From: "Chris Harnish, M.S."
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] OT: looking for realtors
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Message-ID: <45BA7845.8010508@verizon.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Ditto for me too...always looking for options other than renting.
>>
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>>
>> Chris Harnish, M.S., HFI
>> Exercise Physiologist & Coach
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:09:18 -0800
>> From: "Ryan Weaver"
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: Dura Ace WH-7801-SL wheelset new price
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:11:12 -0800
>> From: l j
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT: looking for realtors
>> To: "Chris Harnish, M.S." ,
>>
>> Cc: "petersonsonja@hasson.com"
>> Message-ID:
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>
>> Sonja Peterson is a good realtor and a fellow cyclist.
>> cell 503-890-4040
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:53:09 -0500
>>> From: peoplecycle@verizon.net
>>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] OT: looking for realtors
>>>
>>> Ditto for me too...always looking for options other than renting.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Wishes,
>>>
>>> Chris Harnish, M.S., HFI
>>> Exercise Physiologist & Coach
>>> ESP Training Systems
>>> "Unlocking the secrets to your success!"
>>> www.espanswers.com
>>> Ph 508.965.3863
>>> Fx 508.457.1712
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>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:14:59 -0800
>> From: "Thomas Hoffman"
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT: looking for realtors
>> To: "'Chris Harnish, M.S.'" ,
>>
>> Message-ID: <000001c74197$7d8f9f20$1bd1a8c0@IBM7F4965EFAF1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
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>> I am a Realtor and I always have time for referrals form my OBRA
>> friends.
>>
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>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of Chris Harnish, M.S.
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:53 PM
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] OT: looking for realtors
>>
>> Ditto for me too...always looking for options other than renting.
>>
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>>
>> Chris Harnish, M.S., HFI
>> Exercise Physiologist & Coach
>> ESP Training Systems
>> "Unlocking the secrets to your success!"
>> www.espanswers.com
>> Ph 508.965.3863
>> Fx 508.457.1712
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:52:01 -0800
>> From: "Erik Voldengen"
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial
>> To:
>> Message-ID: <024401c7419c$97f04cc0$6f01a8c0@blue>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> The 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial is coming!
>>
>> February 25, 2007. Vancouver Lake Park.
>>
>> Entry fee is still only $10.
>>
>> Register online at http://www.signmeup.com/56264
>>
>> Or get more details at http://www.bbcbike.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:01:58 +0000
>> From: shane.young@comcast.net
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Photos: Cleaning House
>> To: nwcycling@topica.com , obra@list.obra.org
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <012620072301.5708.45BA8866000419F50000164C220730079309029A0197D20A020E0
>> 89C
>> @comcast.net>
>>
>>
>> Just an FYI to all those who are still interested in purchasing photos
>> from last year. I will be cleaning up my site and photos from last year
>> will start coming down after Feb 1st.
>> Have a wonderful day,
>> Shane
>> www.oregonvelo.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:06:19 -0800 (PST)
>> From: John Schader
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>> To: OBRA
>> Message-ID: <44159.11036.qm@web56610.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
>> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
>> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
>> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
>> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
>> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
>> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:19:20 -0800
>> From: "Erik Voldengen"
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>> To:
>> Message-ID: <026301c741a0$68b5b4a0$6f01a8c0@blue>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I don't know if you'll loose it for sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
>> cable.
>> I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in the basic
>> cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on their website.
>>
>>
>>
>> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
>> did have OLN with basic cable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
>> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isn't
>> possible with the larger cable packages - only basic cable has enough
>> penetration.
>>
>>
>>
>> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it won't. At least you can still
>> watch Mythbusters ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of John Schader
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
>> To: OBRA
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
>> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
>> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
>> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
>> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
>> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
>> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie
>> showtime shortcut.
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:30:41 -0700
>> From:
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>> To: ,
>> Message-ID:
>> <18F7DBCCFDBF3D449DEB62EEB52BE41602C7C58E@COAST.amr.ch2m.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> We have basic and don't get OLN any longer. When we had the full package
>> OLN was on 401 or 402, something like that. Then it moved to 32 for a
>> while. We downgraded to basic to wheen the kids off the cartoon network
>> and was excited when we still had OLN/Versus on Channel 32. A few month
>> back it disappeared from 32 (maybe when you did your poll). I don't
>> believe it is part of the basic package any longer.
>>
>> Do others get OLN/Versus as part of their basic? I would sure like to
>> know if I am just missing it.
>>
>> Aaron Leritz
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of Erik Voldengen
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:19 PM
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know if you'll loose it for sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
>> cable. I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in
>> the basic cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on
>> their website.
>>
>>
>>
>> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
>> did have OLN with basic cable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
>> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isn't
>> possible with the larger cable packages - only basic cable has enough
>> penetration.
>>
>>
>>
>> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it won't. At least you can still
>> watch Mythbusters ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of John Schader
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
>> To: OBRA
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
>> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
>> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
>> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
>> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
>> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
>> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
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>> showtime shortcut.
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:37:38 -0800
>> From: "Denham, Mitch"
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>> To: , ,
>>
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <5389061B65D50446B1783B97DFDB392D04539990@orsmsx411.amr.corp.intel.com>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I think I still have it on basic Comcast (in Hillsboro), channel 32. I
>> will check again tonight to be sure. Maybe their official answer is
>> that you don't get it with basic, in case your cable connection is poor.
>> Things start fading once you get to channel 34 and beyond and briefly
>> re-appear at channels 69, 70, and 71 (Lifetime, E!, and AMC). At least
>> at my house :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> mitch
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of Aaron.Leritz@CH2M.com
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:31 PM
>> To: erikv@erikv.com; obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>> We have basic and don't get OLN any longer. When we had the full package
>> OLN was on 401 or 402, something like that. Then it moved to 32 for a
>> while. We downgraded to basic to wheen the kids off the cartoon network
>> and was excited when we still had OLN/Versus on Channel 32. A few month
>> back it disappeared from 32 (maybe when you did your poll). I don't
>> believe it is part of the basic package any longer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do others get OLN/Versus as part of their basic? I would sure like to
>> know if I am just missing it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Aaron Leritz
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of Erik Voldengen
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:19 PM
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>> I don't know if you'll loose it for sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
>> cable. I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in
>> the basic cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on
>> their website.
>>
>>
>>
>> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
>> did have OLN with basic cable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
>> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isn't
>> possible with the larger cable packages - only basic cable has enough
>> penetration.
>>
>>
>>
>> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it won't. At least you can still
>> watch Mythbusters ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of John Schader
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
>> To: OBRA
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
>> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
>> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
>> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
>> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
>> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
>> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie
>> showtime shortcut.
>>
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>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:46:04 +0000
>> From: garymedley@comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <012620072346.27245.45BA92BC0005DA2C00006A6D2200734748970A040B0A03979D0E
>> 09@
>> comcast.net>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> OLN, nee Versus, moved to basic cable nationwide last fall as part of
>> its deal to broadcast the National Hockey Association. There's no way
>> the NHL will allow Comcast to bump the NHL to a more-expensive package
>> with even LESS viewers. It would be death for the NHL's already small
>> advertising revenue.
>>
>> Unless they figure the NHL is a lost cause anyway.
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Erik Voldengen"
>>
>> I dont know if youll loose it for sure.
>>
>> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
>> cable.
>> I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in the basic
>> cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on their website.
>>
>> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
>> did have OLN with basic cable.
>>
>> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
>> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isnt
>> possible with the larger cable packages only basic cable has enough
>> penetration.
>>
>> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it wont. At least you can still
>> watch Mythbusters ;)
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of John Schader
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
>> To: OBRA
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
>> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
>> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
>> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
>> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
>> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
>> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie
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>> Message: 14
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:54:47 -0800
>> From: Ben Rasche
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>> To: "Denham, Mitch" , ,
>> ,
>> Message-ID:
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>
>> OLN/Versus worked for me last night on channel 32 of basic cable.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:37:38 -0800From: mitch.denham@intel.comTo:
>> Aaron.Leritz@CH2M.com; erikv@erikv.com; obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re:
>> [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I still have it on basic Comcast (in Hillsboro), channel 32. I
>> will check again tonight to be sure. Maybe their official answer is
>> that you don?t get it with basic, in case your cable connection is poor.
>> Things start fading once you get to channel 34 and beyond and briefly
>> re-appear at channels 69, 70, and 71 (Lifetime, E!, and AMC). At least
>> at my house J
>>
>> mitch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of Aaron.Leritz@CH2M.comSent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:31 PMTo:
>> erikv@erikv.com; obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News
>> from Comcast
>>
>> We have basic and don't get OLN any longer. When we had the full package
>> OLN was on 401 or 402, something like that. Then it moved to 32 for a
>> while. We downgraded to basic to wheen the kids off the cartoon network
>> and was excited when we still had OLN/Versus on Channel 32. A few month
>> back it disappeared from 32 (maybe when you did your poll). I don't
>> believe it is part of the basic package any longer.
>>
>> Do others get OLN/Versus as part of their basic? I would sure like to
>> know
>> if I am just missing it.
>>
>>
>> Aaron Leritz
>>
>>
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of Erik VoldengenSent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:19 PMTo:
>> obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast I don?t
>> know if you?ll loose it for sure.
>>
>> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
>> cable.
>> I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in the basic
>> cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on their website.
>>
>> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
>> did have OLN with basic cable.
>>
>> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
>> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isn?t
>> possible with the larger cable packages ? only basic cable has enough
>> penetration.
>>
>> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it won?t. At least you can still
>> watch Mythbusters ;)
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of John SchaderSent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PMTo:
>> OBRASubject:
>> [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
>> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
>> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
>> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
>> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
>> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
>> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no timewith theYahoo! Search movie
>> showtime shortcut.
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>> Message: 15
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:57:42 -0800
>> From: "Thomas Hoffman"
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>> To:
>> Message-ID: <004901c741a5$ce82b3f0$1bd1a8c0@IBM7F4965EFAF1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Try DISH network.
>>
>> Better Picture than Cable. And you get VS, Speed and Golf channel.
>>
>> If you have an HDTV there is a channel called Rush that has some real
>> cool Mt Bike films in rotation. All in HD!
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a few New Client Discount cards at home if you want to convert.
>> Send me an Email and I will drop them in the mail to you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thomas Hoffman
>>
>> RE/MAX equity group
>>
>> 503-495-5607 Direct
>>
>> 503-475-3417 Cell
>>
>> www.tomshometeam.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Check out this great Listing!
>>
>>
>> Click here
>> > 8>
>> to view your eCard
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of garymedley@comcast.net
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:46 PM
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>> OLN, nee Versus, moved to basic cable nationwide last fall as part of
>> its deal to broadcast the National Hockey Association. There's no way
>> the NHL will allow Comcast to bump the NHL to a more-expensive package
>> with even LESS viewers. It would be death for the NHL's already small
>> advertising revenue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unless they figure the NHL is a lost cause anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Erik Voldengen"
>>
>> I dont know if youll loose it for sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
>> cable.
>> I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in the basic
>> cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on their website.
>>
>>
>>
>> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
>> did have OLN with basic cable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
>> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isnt
>> possible with the larger cable packages only basic cable has enough
>> penetration.
>>
>>
>>
>> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it wont. At least you can still
>> watch Mythbusters ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf Of John Schader
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
>> To: OBRA
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
>> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
>> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
>> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
>> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
>> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
>> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find
>> > om/s
>> hortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mailnews> a flick in no time with theYahoo!
>> > om/s
>> hortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mailnews> Search movie showtime shortcut.
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>> Message: 16
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:10:17 -0800
>> From: "Glen Gann"
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial
>> To: ,
>> Message-ID: <001901c741a7$87cef660$5cebd818@FamilyRoom>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> The Jack Frost is not the first race of the year?! How can this be?!
>> Although I have never raced this TT, I have always been able to get an
>> idea of who is riding well before the first RR. Cherry Pie will be like
>> a blind date.
>>
>> Glen
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Erik Voldengen"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 2:52 PM
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial
>>
>>
>>> The 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial is coming!
>>>
>>> February 25, 2007. Vancouver Lake Park.
>>>
>>> Entry fee is still only $10.
>>>
>>> Register online at http://www.signmeup.com/56264
>>>
>>> Or get more details at http://www.bbcbike.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:00:31 +0000
>> From: oregonyankee@comcast.net
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Team Expresscopy Event
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <012720070200.27354.45BAB23E000F30F700006ADA22007623020A0A05020E97020109
>> 0A9
>> D01@comcast.net>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> A rare opportunity is headed to Portland. International womens cycling
>> team, Team Expresscopy.com, will be in Portland for one day only,
>> hosting a bike symposium for women (and cycling fans) at the Multnomah
>> Athletic Club January 31 at 3:00 p.m. They will also be officially
>> announcing their new sponsor, Portland-based company, expresscopy.com.
>>
>> The teams roster includes some of the fastest women cyclists in the
>> world, including a former U.S. National Champion. The symposium will
>> feature a short speech by team member Anne Samplonius (current Canadian
>> National Criterium Champion) and a bike clinic from the City of
>> Portlands Women on Bikes organization.
>>
>> You can learn more about the team at www.teamexpresscopy.com. Details
>> for the event follow:
>>
>> When:
>> Wednesday, January 31, 2007
>> 3:00 p.m. announcement of new sponsor, expresscopy.com; Q&A session
>> with team members (for media only) 4:30 p.m. symposium begins
>>
>> Where:
>> Multnomah Athletic Club, 1849 SW Salmon Street, Portland Parking
>> provided in the parking structure adjacent to the MAC.
>>
>> Please RSVP to libbi@why3.com
>>
>> --
>> Bored? Boss not looking? Surf over to my cycling blog at:
>> www.OregonLive.com/weblogs/bikeblog/
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>> Message: 18
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:12:43 -0800
>> From: "Heather VanValkenburg"
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] PACE Trek Across America - The Sequel
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Message-ID:
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>>
>> I got this information from my mom. I have nothing to do with this. I"m
>> just posting for her from her friend...
>>
>>
>> This guys from Missoula MT, ran across the United States (west to east)
>> last year to help promote Physical Activity. This year he plans to bike
>> (east to
>> west) across America. He is trying to raise $4,000 to pay for gear,
>> food, lodging, etc. I thought our cycling community might be able to
>> help. If you can't contribute financially, he is looking for places to
>> spend the night along his route and maybe someone can provide lodging.
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>
>>>Reply-To: paul@pacerun.com
>>
>>>Hello From P.A.C.E. Trek!
>>
>> It has been 3 months since I completed my 3,260-mile run across America
>> and for the past 6 weeks I have been working on an endeavor that many of
>> you may believe will qualify me for a straight jacket. Between April and
>> June of this year I will be crossing the continent solo once again,
>> retracing the steps of P.A.C.E. Run 2006 with the wheels of P.A.C.E.
>> Bike 2007. Rather than use this e-mail message to dive into the various
>> "hows" and "whys" of this pending trek, I would ask for you to take a
>> moment to visit www.pacetrek.com. From there you'll be able to access
>> the run across America web site as well as my upcoming trek site.
>>
>> This trek will require two months, coast to coast, and will be from
>> April 10 to June 16. My complete route is available through the web site
>> and is the precise route I ran in 2006 - just going in the opposite
>> direction. Okay...
>> so you're probably wanting me to get right to the point on "why" I'm
>> going to do this. Here it is:
>>
>> If you drop any small thing into water, it will cause a ripple effect
>> -thus changing everything reflected on its surface. With the success of
>> my 2006 solo run across America I acquired a unique message about
>> health, fitness and chasing after dreams that I want to drop into the
>> minds and hearts of children across America, like dropping a pebble into
>> water. My hope is that it will cause a change in their lives and a
>> ripple effect toward greater health, fitness, and a deeper desire to
>> pursue their dreams. That's it! If my purpose resonates with you I would
>> ask for any assistanceor ideas that you can offer with respect to
>> lodging, funding, and/or locations for presentations (schools, clubs,
>> organizations, etc.).
>>
>> Thank you for reading this, and I hope you visit www.pacetrek.com.
>>
>> "Gotta Roll",
>>>
>>>Paul Staso
>>>P.A.C.E. Trek - "Promoting Active Children Everywhere"
>>>P.O. Box 3404, Missoula, Montana 59806
>>>Web Site: www.pacetrek.com
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping
>> http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095&
>> tcod
>> e=wlmtagline
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:20:16 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Michael Benno
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Free nightrider accesories
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Message-ID: <372289.62231.qm@web30604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> 2 extention cords (non-HID)
>> 3 handle barmounts
>> adapter for new and old style lights
>> 2 standard helmet adapters
>> 1 really nice stap-on helmet/head mount
>>
>> I'll be around on Sunday if you want em.
>>
>> Mike Benno
>> 503-756-7587
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>> ____
>> ________
>> Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate
>> in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.
>> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367
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>> Message: 20
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:54:52 -0800
>> From: "Tim Schauer"
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: 105 Fr. Derailleur 10 speed
>> To:
>> Message-ID:
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> For sale: $20
>>
>> Brand new shimano 10 speed 105 front derailleur, double, 31.8 clamp on.
>> I needed a braze on instead so now I'm selling this one!
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 08:45:27 -0800
>> From: "david baker"
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>> To: "Thomas Hoffman" ,
>> Message-ID: <000e01c74232$8e116090$0205a8c0@dirtsurf>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Versus, speed and golf are not in hd yet. Versus is in hd negotiations
>> of some sort. It sure would be the ultimate to watch the tour or others
>> in hd.
>> Directv is going to up their hd offerings this year so it may be a
>> better choice for new customers.
>> http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P4130030
>> I do sell both Directv and Dish network and currently have Dish network
>> at my house.
>> If you are in central oregon give us a call if you are interested.
>> Para-Tech satellite 541-389-1514.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Thomas Hoffman
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>> Try DISH network.
>>
>> Better Picture than Cable. And you get VS, Speed and Golf channel.
>>
>> If you have an HDTV there is a channel called Rush that has some real
>> cool Mt Bike films in rotation. All in HD!
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a few New Client Discount cards at home if you want to convert.
>> Send me an Email and I will drop them in the mail to you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thomas Hoffman
>>
>> RE/MAX equity group
>>
>> 503-495-5607 Direct
>>
>> 503-475-3417 Cell
>>
>> www.tomshometeam.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Check out this great Listing!
>>
>>
>> Click here to view your eCard
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----
>> --
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>> On Behalf Of garymedley@comcast.net
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:46 PM
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>> OLN, nee Versus, moved to basic cable nationwide last fall as part of
>> its deal to broadcast the National Hockey Association. There's no way
>> the NHL will allow Comcast to bump the NHL to a more-expensive package
>> with even LESS viewers. It would be death for the NHL's already small
>> advertising revenue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unless they figure the NHL is a lost cause anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Erik Voldengen"
>>
>> I dont know if youll loose it for sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
>> cable. I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in
>> the
>> basic cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on their
>> website.
>>
>>
>>
>> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed
>> they did have OLN with basic cable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights
>> require broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently
>> isnt possible with the larger cable packages only basic cable has
>> enough penetration.
>>
>>
>>
>> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it wont. At least you can
>> still watch Mythbusters ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----
>>
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>> On Behalf Of John Schader
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
>> To: OBRA
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill
>> with the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although
>> they are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
>> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
>> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
>> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
>> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----
>>
>> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time
>> with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----
>> --
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 22
>> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:47:22 -0800
>> From: "Wade Goff"
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] CCX Worlds Jr's
>> To:
>> Message-ID: <003701c7423b$337a3860$6501a8c0@laptop>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> OBRA's own Carson Miller (far right) in the Junior CCX World
>> Championships
>> today:
>>
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/jan07/CXworlds07/index.php?id=/ph
>> otos
>> /2007/jan07/CXworlds07/CXworlds071/cw07_jr_0340_R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:57:45 -0800
>> From: Brig Brandt
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2007 XTR wheelset
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Message-ID: <45bb929924c8c_e12156376e57934101d@lizard.tmail>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> I am selling a brand new 2007 xtr wheelset. Never ridden. These wheels
>> are light at just over 1500 grams. For $850 I will include new rotors,
>> new tires (Hutchison Python Airlight), and new tubes. The wheels alone
>> sell for $999.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
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>>
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>> ************************************
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