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My understanding is that if you birng wheels you randomly get wheels if you need them. It takes too long to get a particular set of wheels. If you wanted your set, rather than run up to you with a wheel, he would have to search all the wheels and if yours was at the bottom, he would have to pull the other wheels out first. I doubt that anyone would have the patience for a three minute wheel change.
As for the requirement that you put wheels in, I have never had anyone ask whether I have wheels in before they gave me one. I assume that they decided that either there are enough wheels to risk giving them out without qualification or that they are not going to strand anyone on the road even if they have not put wheels in.
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From: "Eric Kytola"
wheels in...wheels out.
so if i brought wheels yesterday and put them in one of the two vehicles, are they available to anyone who brought wheels or just to me?
and really, are the wheel car people policing who did and didn't bring wheels when flats happen? don't they just slap a new wheel in...job done?
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Fischer, Jim E (Corvallis)
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:16 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment - Wheels
Another alternative is to bring a tube, pump, tire lever, CO2...whatever you NORMALLY ride with when there is not a wheel car behind you on your training rides.
I doubt the added weight of these few items would have mattered yesterday, but in retrospect, that may have been why I didn't finish higher in the 3s. ;-)
If you flat, fix it yourself if you didn't put wheels in the car. Pretty simple.
Having worked many races as wheel support, if everybody brings wheels, we pick and choose to make sure we get a good cross-section of D/A, Campy, 9 vs 10, front vs rear, etc. Many people put their crap wheels in the pit. If you get them, you may be walking anyway.
My two cents...
Fish
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of gschreckchat@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:12 AM
To: Dan H; Evan MacKenzie; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
Harsh though it is, I agree. Nothing would make people bring wheels faster than having no spares and a few people stranded until they could be picked up. Also, there was no excuse for not bringing them as there was an e-mail sent out that said there was no neutral support and that it would be wheels in/wheels out. For those who do not know what that means, it means "bring spare wheels or good walking shoes."
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George Schreck
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From: "Dan H"
When I was racing, I brought spare wheels just in case I got a flat warming up. I assumed that if I didn't have spare wheels in a car, that I would be out of luck if I got a puncture or mishap. If I had wheels in a car and they were taken without my knowledge to be used as spares in another race and I had to wait for the race to finish before I could get them back, I would be furious.
What's wrong with "nobody in this race brought spare wheels so there will be no spares?"
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From: Evan MacKenzie
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
I was a follow driver for a couple races yesterday. I am pleased to say that other than the aforementioned bottle toss, which I witnessed, both races I followed went off quite well. Thanks to everybody who participated for a nice, clean event. Thanks especially to the downed rider who we helped in the Master 4/5 race for your good spirits in spite of being involved in a wreck and abandoning. We all hope the guys involved in the crash in the 3?s make a speedy recovery.
OK, now one harsh comment.
None of the afternoon women brought any spare wheels. Five minutes before the race started, we had a wheel car with no wheels to give out. If it wasn?t for the three Master 4/5 men who brought in wheels late (which we in turn ?borrowed? so the women would have wheels), there would have been no wheels at all for you. Thanks by the way to the three 4/5s who didn?t know their wheels had been taken, and patiently waited for their wheels to arrive after the women?s race.
This happened at last year?s event as well, coincidently with the women. Now I am not trying to single anyone out here, but I am trying to make a point. If you don?t know if there will be neutral support at a race, bring wheels. Better yet, assume that there will NOT be neutral support wheels provided, and bring them anyway.
Again, thanks to everyone for coming out and racing. We hope to see you again next year.
-Evan
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