"womens fields are small and that means even if the same percentage of people provide wheels as in other races, there won't be many to go around."
Statistically, that should mean fewer riders will get fewer flats so there should still be enough wheels.
"female racers, (or spare wheel challenged people) and others who race in smaller fields, can arrange for spare wheels from teammates"
Great idea.
"Drivers don't care who or where they come from, as long as they are there."
Why should the driver care at all? If there are no wheels, that means you can take a nap or maybe just sweep the course to pick up the less prepared.
"The second is a volunteer who decides not to volunteer again because he or she gets verbally assaulted after a rider was denied a wheel."
A qualification for support drivers should be a thick skin. You do what you can but if a rider starts freaking out it's because of a high level of adrenalin and should not be taken personally. Also rider attitude has a lot to do the level of help they get. Riders should be advised it's not a good idea to p.o. the mechanic! The level of service in the future could be at stake.
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan MacKenzie
To: janmoss@quidnunc.net ; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Do not dis all women!! Fwd: OBRA Digest, Vol 16,Issue 2
Jan-
I can only speak for the races I was involved in. But it was interesting that five minutes before the start of the race the womens follow car driver said he didn't have any wheels to take. It was interesting because we had the same situation with the Masters Women field that I followed last year. After I asked our announcer last year to mention to the riders that we had ZERO wheels left for us to take, a few riders were able to get some together. Maybe you were in a different field and there were wheels turned in, I don't know. I know the womens fields are small and that means even if the same percentage of people provide wheels as in other races, there won't be many to go around. Maybe some of our female racers, and others who race in smaller fields, can arrange for spare wheels from teammates, friends, significant others, whatever, if they don't have a second set of wheels to bring. Drivers don't care who or where they come from, as long as they are there.
The flip side of this is the possibility that the follow drivers are not provided with wheels, and when somebody does flat they get pretty steamed. It may or may not be a rider that provided wheels, but you can bet that person will expect that if there is a follow car wheels will be available. And then what if the person who did provide wheels has nothing to use because somebody else didn't and got theirs?
These are all things the riders, and the volunteer drivers, have to deal with. I offered my comments this morning because I thought it was important for people to be aware, so that when the next race comes around more people will be prepared.
There are two things we are all trying to avoid. The first is a rider who cannot continue a race because no spare wheels are available. The second is a volunteer who decides not to volunteer again because he or she gets verbally assaulted after a rider was denied a wheel.
Just because we made it all work yesterday doesn't mean it will all work out next time.
-Evan
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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:43 PM
To: Evan MacKenzie
Subject: Do not dis all women!! Fwd: OBRA Digest, Vol 16, Issue 2
For your information, I had a full set of wheels, labeled with name and race number in the appropriate location 30min before the start of yesterday's race. I did switch races immediately prior to the start, but I, myself, went and assured they were in the proper car.
So, I can not speak for ALL women, but this one was prepared!
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4. CAT 3 Crash (Richard Haight)
5. Re: USCF Again (T. Kenji Sugahara)
6. FS: 56cm Redline Conquest Pro (jesse bolling)
7. Re: Chris Horner reality TV show? (David Hart)
8. Re: Chris Horner reality TV show? (Joe Cipale)
9. USCF Again (scott klinger)
10. Re: CAT 3 Crash (Saul Lopez)
11. Cat 3s at POC (terry Keele)
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13. - PIR this week or next? (Shermdave@aol.com)
14. day 3 track world champs (cmurray@obra.org)
15. FW: RE: HR Crits? (cmurray@obra.org)
16. Great Job Piece Of Cake (Luciano bailey)
17. Racer Suggestions (Luciano bailey)
18. Re: - PIR this week or next? (Cheryl Willson)
19. Re: Cat 3s at POC (Joe Cipale)
20. Photos: Piece of Cake (shane.young@comcast.net)
21. POC thanks and comment (Evan MacKenzie)
22. Re: POC thanks and comment (lisa graham)
23. Orthopedist recommendations needed (Phil de la Motte)
24. Re: POC thanks and comment (Dan H)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 13:23:57 -0700
From: Eric Chu
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Chris Horner reality TV show?
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so, is this an April fools gag from Velonews? or is this for real?
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/11974.0.html
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 13:42:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: scott klinger
Subject: [OBRA Chat] USCF Again
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USCF is outsourcing it's customer service reps to
India....Another reason for OBRA to stay far, far away
from USCF...
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 13:49:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: EAL
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] USCF Again
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You may want to check the date of the press release on this and its notorious author.
Happy April Fool's day to you too.
Ed
scott klinger wrote:
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Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 21:46:40 +0000
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 15:48:29 -0700
From: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] USCF Again
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Yeah, no kidding.
I almost posted it to the list- was very tempted.
Although, did you hear that they are going to have a stage of the
Tour de France in Qatar?!!!
;)
On Apr 1, 2007, at 1:49 PM, EAL wrote:
> You may want to check the date of the press release on this and its
> notorious author.
>
> Happy April Fool's day to you too.
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> Ed
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Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 17:09:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: jesse bolling
Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: 56cm Redline Conquest Pro
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I have a 56cm Redline Conquest Pro (red, white, black)
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Set up with full fenders and road tires, but you could
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 17:42:01 -0700
From: "David Hart"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Chris Horner reality TV show?
To: "Eric Chu"
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they do this every year
last year was the 50lb wheelset
On 4/1/07, Eric Chu wrote:
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> so, is this an April fools gag from Velonews? or is this for real?
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> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/11974.0.html
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 17:53:40 -0700
From: "Joe Cipale"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Chris Horner reality TV show?
To: "David Hart"
Cc: obra@list.obra.org, Eric Chu
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Give what passes for 'Reality TV', part of me wouldnt be surpised if this were real.
Joe
David Hart wrote:
> they do this every year
>
> last year was the 50lb wheelset
>
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> On 4/1/07, Eric Chu wrote:
> >
> >
> > so, is this an April fools gag from Velonews? or is this for real?
> >
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 18:32:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: scott klinger
Subject: [OBRA Chat] USCF Again
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Ok, Ok, I knew the date, but with the USCF, it sure as
heck wouldn't surprise me at all...
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 18:51:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Saul Lopez
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] CAT 3 Crash
To: Richard Haight , obra@list.obra.org
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Mike from Finnegan's suffered a broken right collarbone and wrist. He said someone cut him off and could not react. I was sitting around 10 or 12th place at the time (he was probably 3 riders in front of me) and rode over his back, endoed, and have some nice road rash, sore neck, and split helmet. Mike got the brunt of it from what I could tell. Rob Anderson from Team O also may have suffered a dislocated shoulder. Tim from Guiness also went down. Hope Mike and Rob a speedy recovery.
Keep it safe out there.
Saul
Richard Haight wrote:
I feel badly about the crash today. As is often the case, its hard to know entirely what happened. Regardless, for whatever part I may have played, I apologize. I know the Finnegan's man went down pretty hard, I sat up and looked back but could not see who else was impacted. After the race I asked around but most of the teams did not seem to know. To whomever it was, I wish you a speedy recovery.
Richard Haight
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 19:11:22 -0700
From: terry Keele
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cat 3s at POC
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Wishing a fast and full recovery to the downed 3 riders. 2 things that i did see out there that are inexcusable are littering and swearing at the locals. Guys, we are not in the TDF. When you throw bottles into people?s front yards, it's litter - plain and simple. When the guy goes out to mow his lawn on Tuesday that's how he'll view it. He was already inconvenienced coming home from church on Sunday so we could have fun, let's not insult him by throwing garbage on his property.
The second was quite unfortunate. We came up on a pickup stopped in the middle of the road being held from turning left in front of on oncoming pack where the course doubles back on itself. These things happen. However, swearing at a 70 year old being held up by a course marshal while driving through HIS neighborhood is low class.
Keep in mind racing on these roads is a privilege not a right and that a little respect for the local residents is mandatory.
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 20:00:51 -0700
From: "Lisa_Tim Ehlers"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cat 3s at POC
To: "terry Keele" ,
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even though I did not make it up North and actually haven't raced this year
the last thought from Terry about a "little" respect. Might want to
rephrase that and give "A LOT" of respect for those that get inconvenienced
just so us weekend warriors might have an opportunity to ride and in such a
competitive manner.
If you lose the support of the neighborhoods that we race in/by, we will
lose venues for racing. Pretty soon we will be like my old digs in Colorado
and basically race Crits at business/industrial parks on the weekends, where
there is minimal if any traffic!
Keep up the racing all, maybe Shane will have photos of some great racing.
Hope all are doing fine considering the sounds of the injuries. Rest well,
recover well.
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To:
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 7:11 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cat 3s at POC
> Wishing a fast and full recovery to the downed 3 riders. 2 things that i
> did see out there that are inexcusable are littering and swearing at the
> locals. Guys, we are not in the TDF. When you throw bottles into peoples
> front yards, it's litter - plain and simple. When the guy goes out to mow
> his lawn on Tuesday that's how he'll view it. He was already
> inconvenienced coming home from church on Sunday so we could have fun,
> let's not insult him by throwing garbage on his property.
>
> The second was quite unfortunate. We came up on a pickup stopped in the
> middle of the road being held from turning left in front of on oncoming
> pack where the course doubles back on itself. These things happen.
> However, swearing at a 70 year old being held up by a course marshal while
> driving through HIS neighborhood is low class.
>
> Keep in mind racing on these roads is a privilege not a right and that a
> little respect for the local residents is mandatory.
>
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 00:46:11 EDT
From: Shermdave@aol.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] - PIR this week or next?
To: ltehlers@quik.com, terry.keele@agedwards.com, obra@list.obra.org
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There is some conflicting information out there on the schedules- does
Tuesday PIR start this week or next?
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 02:06:16 -0400
From: "cmurray@obra.org"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] day 3 track world champs
To: obra@list.obra.org
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While I thought that the Spainard winning the points race at a Spain track
was fun, I had a even better one today.
Seems that teh Europe 6 day fans think that the Madison at Worlds is
suppose to be a big party also.
You would have to imagine the spectators. The track holds about 5000, there
are about 4500-4800 here today. Each seems to have their own little
section. They are color coded by tee shirts and or are wearing the flags of
their countries. The Spainards are red and have these red blow up sticks
that they bang together. the Netherlanders are organge. The Japan crowd
brought drums. The Spainards had an accordian. There are horns and or
trumpets up by the swiss.
The race is 16 teams. On this 250 meter track it does not seem crowded.
Unlike alpenrose where we make riders exchange low and not pass underneath.
there is no such rule here. And no need for one. The rider going out rides
the whole event. Does not drop to the apro? or hold onto the railing. They
do not move up and down the track but hold there position and it does not
seem dangerous. There are exchanging teams all over the field. It is like a
choregraphed dance.
The race is one of laps. Unlike the points race where if you gain a lap you
gain 20 points. In the Madison if you gain a lap you are one lap ahead of
the others. Getting away is important. And of course very hard.
the crowd is vocal, loud and enthusiastic. Many times you cannot hear the
announcers because of the volume.
The race was 200 laps long. It came down to the last sprint and was very
possible to end in a tie. But it didn?t. the Swiss won by just one point. A
member of the 2nd place Netherland team got bumped after the lineand went
down and off to the hospital and missed the award ceremony. It was the only
mishap.
The rest of the day seems quite tame. We did almost get to see a sub one
minute kilo as Chris Hoy of Great Britain went 1.00.999.
The wome??s points race was weak after the excitement. I kept imagining
hearing the riders saying "no you go" to each other time after time as they
rode around high on the track waiting for someone, anyone to make a move.
My crush on Theo Bos remains as he won the match sprints. Both his riders
were close as were the rides for 3rd and 4th.
It was fun. We are going for another ride today in the Majorca hills (yeah
this is Candi and I said hills).
See you all soon.
Candi
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 02:07:21 -0400
From: "cmurray@obra.org"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] FW: RE: HR Crits?
To: obra@list.obra.org
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Original Message:
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From: Paul, Kristen, Althea and Rosalie paul@speedfish.com
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 20:16:57 -0700
To: cmurray@obra.org, mikebene@gmail.com
Subject: RE: HR Crits?
Sorry for any failure on our part. Please come race and send folks to
discoverbicycles.com to learn details. They are there.
Paul Blackburn & Kristen Dillon
401 Montello
Hood River, OR 97031
541-387-4011
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From: cmurray@obra.org [cmurray@obra.org','','','')">cmurray@obra.org]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:07 PM
To: paul@speedfish.com
Subject: FW: HR Crits?
gettign lots of request for this. still not one on the web
candi
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From: Mike Bene mikebene@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:26:41 -0700
To: comotionclassic@comcast.net, cmurray@obra.org
Subject: HR Crits?
Hi,
Any info on whether these are gonna happen? Is there a flyer?
Mike
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:15:40 +0000
From: "Luciano bailey"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Great Job Piece Of Cake
To: obra@list.obra.org
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To all the folks at bike attorney, volunteers ,racers ,and fans thank you
for a great and relatively problem free early season event. As always the
spirit of OBRA was alive and well even with the Murrays in Miorca( so
lucky). Again thanks for your cooperation and eforts.
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:36:19 +0000
From: "Luciano bailey"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racer Suggestions
To: obra@list.obra.org
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The process of gaining accurate and rapid results is a multi group task, our
side as officials and suppliers of result equiptment is to capture and
dissect the data to a level of accuracy fitting the very expensive finish
camera. The problem is we would have to buy a sattalite to read the multiple
variations of number placements on display yesterday. My advice take a look
at the elite riders( most of them) in our peleton , not the Tour, the
Ironman or any other example. The numbers were sized and placed to be
compatable with the given results equiptment only. So no offense but if you
came here from Rhode Island and they put their numbers on there helmets
forget it. I say this only because I truly appreciate your enthusiasm for
quick results, along side Candi's existing policy of placing all racers
possible. That said see you all hopefully at the opener at PIR this Tuesday
with numbers all ready to go. ***Note the exception to the above rule is if
you are wearing no number no placing will be scored if you forget yours rent
a temp please. See you at the races
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 08:18:03 -0700
From: Cheryl Willson
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] - PIR this week or next?
To: Shermdave@aol.com
Cc: terry.keele@agedwards.com, obra@list.obra.org
Message-ID: <8E52D12E-9A4A-4C00-B875-66051FCDAA54@obra.org>
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Tuesday PIR starts on April 3 but there is no Tues PIR on April 10.
On Apr 1, 2007, at 9:46 PM, Shermdave@aol.com wrote:
> There is some conflicting information out there on the schedules-
> does Tuesday PIR start this week or next?
>
> Dave Sherman
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 08:31:16 -0700
From: "Joe Cipale"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cat 3s at POC
To: terry Keele
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Message-ID: <200704021531.l32FVG48024677@sapphire.spiritone.com>
Well said Terry.
Kudos!
Joe
terry Keele wrote:
> Wishing a fast and full recovery to the downed 3 riders. 2 things that i did see out there that are inexcusable are littering and swearing at the locals. Guys, we are not in the TDF. When you throw bottles into people?s front yards, it's litter - plain and simple. When the guy goes out to mow his lawn on Tuesday that's how he'll view it. He was already inconvenienced coming home from church on Sunday so we could have fun, let's not insult him by throwing garbage on his property.
>
> The second was quite unfortunate. We came up on a pickup stopped in the middle of the road being held from turning left in front of on oncoming pack where the course doubles back on itself. These things happen. However, swearing at a 70 year old being held up by a course marshal while driving through HIS neighborhood is low class.
>
> Keep in mind racing on these roads is a privilege not a right and that a little respect for the local residents is mandatory.
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:38:56 +0000
From: shane.young@comcast.net
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Photos: Piece of Cake
To: nwcycling@topica.com , obra@list.obra.org
Message-ID:
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For your Monday morning entertainment, we have posted our photos of this weekends Piece of Cake.
Enjoy,
Shane
www.oregonvelo.com : a photo blog, find information about photos at oregon races
photos.oregonvelo.com : takes you straight to the photos.
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 08:48:50 -0700
From: "Evan MacKenzie"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
To:
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I was a follow driver for a couple races yesterday. I am pleased to say
that other than the aforementioned bottle toss, which I witnessed, both
races I followed went off quite well. Thanks to everybody who
participated for a nice, clean event. Thanks especially to the downed
rider who we helped in the Master 4/5 race for your good spirits in
spite of being involved in a wreck and abandoning. We all hope the guys
involved in the crash in the 3's make a speedy recovery.
OK, now one harsh comment.
None of the afternoon women brought any spare wheels. Five minutes
before the race started, we had a wheel car with no wheels to give out.
If it wasn't for the three Master 4/5 men who brought in wheels late
(which we in turn "borrowed" so the women would have wheels), there
would have been no wheels at all for you. Thanks by the way to the three
4/5s who didn't know their wheels had been taken, and patiently waited
for their wheels to arrive after the women's race.
This happened at last year's event as well, coincidently with the women.
Now I am not trying to single anyone out here, but I am trying to make a
point. If you don't know if there will be neutral support at a race,
bring wheels. Better yet, assume that there will NOT be neutral support
wheels provided, and bring them anyway.
Again, thanks to everyone for coming out and racing. We hope to see you
again next year.
-Evan
Evan MacKenzie
Urban Planner I
City of Hillsboro
150 E. Main Street, 4th floor
Hillsboro, OR 97123
503-681-6154
evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us>
http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/
Try Hillsboro Maps!
Tons of info on any (addressed) property in Hillsboro
http://hillsboromaps.ci.hillsboro.or.us/hillsboro/index.cfm
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 08:51:42 -0700
From: "lisa graham"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
To: , "Evan MacKenzie"
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As Phil Sanders likes to say, "PRIOR PLANNING PREVENTS POOR PERFORMANCE"
We brought wheels!!
Fiona Graham
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan MacKenzieevanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us>
To: obra@list.obra.orgobra@list.obra.org>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
I was a follow driver for a couple races yesterday. I am pleased to say that other than the aforementioned bottle toss, which I witnessed, both races I followed went off quite well. Thanks to everybody who participated for a nice, clean event. Thanks especially to the downed rider who we helped in the Master 4/5 race for your good spirits in spite of being involved in a wreck and abandoning. We all hope the guys involved in the crash in the 3's make a speedy recovery.
OK, now one harsh comment.
None of the afternoon women brought any spare wheels. Five minutes before the race started, we had a wheel car with no wheels to give out. If it wasn't for the three Master 4/5 men who brought in wheels late (which we in turn "borrowed" so the women would have wheels), there would have been no wheels at all for you. Thanks by the way to the three 4/5s who didn't know their wheels had been taken, and patiently waited for their wheels to arrive after the women's race.
This happened at last year's event as well, coincidently with the women. Now I am not trying to single anyone out here, but I am trying to make a point. If you don't know if there will be neutral support at a race, bring wheels. Better yet, assume that there will NOT be neutral support wheels provided, and bring them anyway.
Again, thanks to everyone for coming out and racing. We hope to see you again next year.
-Evan
Evan MacKenzie
Urban Planner I
City of Hillsboro
150 E. Main Street, 4th floor
Hillsboro, OR 97123
503-681-6154
evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.usevanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us>
http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/>
Try Hillsboro Maps!
Tons of info on any (addressed) property in Hillsboro
http://hillsboromaps.ci.hillsboro.or.us/hillsboro/index.cfm>
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 09:25:44 -0700
From: "Phil de la Motte"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Orthopedist recommendations needed
To: obra@list.obra.org
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OBRA-land,
I just spoke to Rob Anderson who went down in the 3's at POC yesterday. He
is going to be OK, but definitely has a broken clavicle. He needs to see an
orthopedist ASAP. He's called around but the soonest he can get into see
one is tomorrow. If any of you have recommendations for a good orthopedist,
or even possibly know how he could get into see someone today, please reply
back directly to riznob@gmail.com and phildlm@gmail.com.
Safe riding,
Phil
Team Oregon
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 09:47:11 -0700
From: "Dan H"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
To: "Evan MacKenzie" ,
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When I was racing, I brought spare wheels just in case I got a flat warming up. I assumed that if I didn't have spare wheels in a car, that I would be out of luck if I got a puncture or mishap. If I had wheels in a car and they were taken without my knowledge to be used as spares in another race and I had to wait for the race to finish before I could get them back, I would be furious.
What's wrong with "nobody in this race brought spare wheels so there will be no spares?"
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan MacKenzie
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
I was a follow driver for a couple races yesterday. I am pleased to say that other than the aforementioned bottle toss, which I witnessed, both races I followed went off quite well. Thanks to everybody who participated for a nice, clean event. Thanks especially to the downed rider who we helped in the Master 4/5 race for your good spirits in spite of being involved in a wreck and abandoning. We all hope the guys involved in the crash in the 3's make a speedy recovery.
OK, now one harsh comment.
None of the afternoon women brought any spare wheels. Five minutes before the race started, we had a wheel car with no wheels to give out. If it wasn't for the three Master 4/5 men who brought in wheels late (which we in turn "borrowed" so the women would have wheels), there would have been no wheels at all for you. Thanks by the way to the three 4/5s who didn't know their wheels had been taken, and patiently waited for their wheels to arrive after the women's race.
This happened at last year's event as well, coincidently with the women. Now I am not trying to single anyone out here, but I am trying to make a point. If you don't know if there will be neutral support at a race, bring wheels. Better yet, assume that there will NOT be neutral support wheels provided, and bring them anyway.
Again, thanks to everyone for coming out and racing. We hope to see you again next year.
-Evan
Evan MacKenzie
Urban Planner I
City of Hillsboro
150 E. Main Street, 4th floor
Hillsboro, OR 97123
503-681-6154
evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us
http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/
Try Hillsboro Maps!
Tons of info on any (addressed) property in Hillsboro
http://hillsboromaps.ci.hillsboro.or.us/hillsboro/index.cfm
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 09:52:12 -0700
From: "Joel Morrissette"
Subject: [OBRA Chat] orange cable housing
To: obra@list.obra.org
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Anyone out there know of a local source of orange brake and shifter cable
housing? I'm about to convert my bike from 8- to 9-speed, and I'd love to
replace the stock black while I'm at it. The orange would look so cool with
the traffic-cone colored paint scheme. It's not important enough to
mail-order and wait since I'm finishing the job tonight. Please reply
off-list.
Thanks
Joel
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Message: 26
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 17:11:54 +0000
From: gschreckchat@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
To: "Dan H" , "Evan MacKenzie"
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Harsh though it is, I agree. Nothing would make people bring wheels faster than having no spares and a few people stranded until they could be picked up. Also, there was no excuse for not bringing them as there was an e-mail sent out that said there was no neutral support and that it would be wheels in/wheels out. For those who do not know what that means, it means "bring spare wheels or good walking shoes."
--
George Schreck
gschreckchat@comcast.net
(503) 502-0425
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Dan H"
When I was racing, I brought spare wheels just in case I got a flat warming up. I assumed that if I didn't have spare wheels in a car, that I would be out of luck if I got a puncture or mishap. If I had wheels in a car and they were taken without my knowledge to be used as spares in another race and I had to wait for the race to finish before I could get them back, I would be furious.
What's wrong with "nobody in this race brought spare wheels so there will be no spares?"
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan MacKenzie
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
I was a follow driver for a couple races yesterday. I am pleased to say that other than the aforementioned bottle toss, which I witnessed, both races I followed went off quite well. Thanks to everybody who participated for a nice, clean event. Thanks especially to the downed rider who we helped in the Master 4/5 race for your good spirits in spite of being involved in a wreck and abandoning. We all hope the guys involved in the crash in the 3?s make a speedy recovery.
OK, now one harsh comment.
None of the afternoon women brought any spare wheels. Five minutes before the race started, we had a wheel car with no wheels to give out. If it wasn?t for the three Master 4/5 men who brought in wheels late (which we in turn ?borrowed? so the women would have wheels), there would have been no wheels at all for you. Thanks by the way to the three 4/5s who didn?t know their wheels had been taken, and patiently waited for their wheels to arrive after the women?s race.
This happened at last year?s event as well, coincidently with the women. Now I am not trying to single anyone out here, but I am trying to make a point. If you don?t know if there will be neutral support at a race, bring wheels. Better yet, assume that there will NOT be neutral support wheels provided, and bring them anyway.
Again, thanks to everyone for coming out and racing. We hope to see you again next year.
-Evan
Evan MacKenzie
Urban Planner I
City of Hillsboro
150 E. Main Street, 4th floor
Hillsboro, OR 97123
503-681-6154
evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us
http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/
Try Hillsboro Maps!
Tons of info on any (addressed) property in Hillsboro
http://hillsboromaps.ci.hillsboro.or.us/hillsboro/index.cfm
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Message: 27
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 17:16:23 -0000
From: "Fischer, Jim E (Corvallis)"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment - Wheels
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Another alternative is to bring a tube, pump, tire lever, CO2...whatever
you NORMALLY ride with when there is not a wheel car behind you on your
training rides.
I doubt the added weight of these few items would have mattered
yesterday, but in retrospect, that may have been why I didn't finish
higher in the 3s. ;-)
If you flat, fix it yourself if you didn't put wheels in the car.
Pretty simple.
Having worked many races as wheel support, if everybody brings wheels,
we pick and choose to make sure we get a good cross-section of D/A,
Campy, 9 vs 10, front vs rear, etc. Many people put their crap wheels
in the pit. If you get them, you may be walking anyway.
My two cents...
Fish
________________________________
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [obra-bounces@list.obra.org','','','')">obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of gschreckchat@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:12 AM
To: Dan H; Evan MacKenzie; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
Harsh though it is, I agree. Nothing would make people bring wheels
faster than having no spares and a few people stranded until they could
be picked up. Also, there was no excuse for not bringing them as there
was an e-mail sent out that said there was no neutral support and that
it would be wheels in/wheels out. For those who do not know what that
means, it means "bring spare wheels or good walking shoes."
--
George Schreck
gschreckchat@comcast.net
(503) 502-0425
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Dan H"
When I was racing, I brought spare wheels just in case I got a
flat warming up. I assumed that if I didn't have spare wheels in a car,
that I would be out of luck if I got a puncture or mishap. If I had
wheels in a car and they were taken without my knowledge to be used as
spares in another race and I had to wait for the race to finish before I
could get them back, I would be furious.
What's wrong with "nobody in this race brought spare wheels so
there will be no spares?"
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan MacKenzie evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us>
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
I was a follow driver for a couple races yesterday. I am
pleased to say that other than the aforementioned bottle toss, which I
witnessed, both races I followed went off quite well. Thanks to
everybody who participated for a nice, clean event. Thanks especially to
the downed rider who we helped in the Master 4/5 race for your good
spirits in spite of being involved in a wreck and abandoning. We all
hope the guys involved in the crash in the 3's make a speedy recovery.
OK, now one harsh comment.
None of the afternoon women brought any spare wheels.
Five minutes before the race started, we had a wheel car with no wheels
to give out. If it wasn't for the three Master 4/5 men who brought in
wheels late (which we in turn "borrowed" so the women would have
wheels), there would have been no wheels at all for you. Thanks by the
way to the three 4/5s who didn't know their wheels had been taken, and
patiently waited for their wheels to arrive after the women's race.
This happened at last year's event as well, coincidently
with the women. Now I am not trying to single anyone out here, but I am
trying to make a point. If you don't know if there will be neutral
support at a race, bring wheels. Better yet, assume that there will NOT
be neutral support wheels provided, and bring them anyway.
Again, thanks to everyone for coming out and racing. We
hope to see you again next year.
-Evan
Evan MacKenzie
Urban Planner I
City of Hillsboro
150 E. Main Street, 4th floor
Hillsboro, OR 97123
503-681-6154
evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us
evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us>
http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/
Try Hillsboro Maps!
Tons of info on any (addressed) property in Hillsboro
http://hillsboromaps.ci.hillsboro.or.us/hillsboro/index.cfm
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Message: 28
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:22:15 -0700
From: "Eric Kytola"
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment - Wheels
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wheels in...wheels out.
so if i brought wheels yesterday and put them in one of the two
vehicles, are they available to anyone who brought wheels or just to me?
and really, are the wheel car people policing who did and didn't bring
wheels when flats happen? don't they just slap a new wheel in...job
done?
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [obra-bounces@list.obra.org','','','')">obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Fischer, Jim E (Corvallis)
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:16 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment - Wheels
Another alternative is to bring a tube, pump, tire lever, CO2...whatever
you NORMALLY ride with when there is not a wheel car behind you on your
training rides.
I doubt the added weight of these few items would have mattered
yesterday, but in retrospect, that may have been why I didn't finish
higher in the 3s. ;-)
If you flat, fix it yourself if you didn't put wheels in the car.
Pretty simple.
Having worked many races as wheel support, if everybody brings wheels,
we pick and choose to make sure we get a good cross-section of D/A,
Campy, 9 vs 10, front vs rear, etc. Many people put their crap wheels
in the pit. If you get them, you may be walking anyway.
My two cents...
Fish
________________________________
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [obra-bounces@list.obra.org','','','')">obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of gschreckchat@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:12 AM
To: Dan H; Evan MacKenzie; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
Harsh though it is, I agree. Nothing would make people bring wheels
faster than having no spares and a few people stranded until they could
be picked up. Also, there was no excuse for not bringing them as there
was an e-mail sent out that said there was no neutral support and that
it would be wheels in/wheels out. For those who do not know what that
means, it means "bring spare wheels or good walking shoes."
--
George Schreck
gschreckchat@comcast.net
(503) 502-0425
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Dan H"
When I was racing, I brought spare wheels just in case I got a
flat warming up. I assumed that if I didn't have spare wheels in a car,
that I would be out of luck if I got a puncture or mishap. If I had
wheels in a car and they were taken without my knowledge to be used as
spares in another race and I had to wait for the race to finish before I
could get them back, I would be furious.
What's wrong with "nobody in this race brought spare wheels so
there will be no spares?"
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan MacKenzie evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us>
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
I was a follow driver for a couple races yesterday. I am
pleased to say that other than the aforementioned bottle toss, which I
witnessed, both races I followed went off quite well. Thanks to
everybody who participated for a nice, clean event. Thanks especially to
the downed rider who we helped in the Master 4/5 race for your good
spirits in spite of being involved in a wreck and abandoning. We all
hope the guys involved in the crash in the 3's make a speedy recovery.
OK, now one harsh comment.
None of the afternoon women brought any spare wheels.
Five minutes before the race started, we had a wheel car with no wheels
to give out. If it wasn't for the three Master 4/5 men who brought in
wheels late (which we in turn "borrowed" so the women would have
wheels), there would have been no wheels at all for you. Thanks by the
way to the three 4/5s who didn't know their wheels had been taken, and
patiently waited for their wheels to arrive after the women's race.
This happened at last year's event as well, coincidently
with the women. Now I am not trying to single anyone out here, but I am
trying to make a point. If you don't know if there will be neutral
support at a race, bring wheels. Better yet, assume that there will NOT
be neutral support wheels provided, and bring them anyway.
Again, thanks to everyone for coming out and racing. We
hope to see you again next year.
-Evan
Evan MacKenzie
Urban Planner I
City of Hillsboro
150 E. Main Street, 4th floor
Hillsboro, OR 97123
503-681-6154
evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us
evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us>
http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/
Try Hillsboro Maps!
Tons of info on any (addressed) property in Hillsboro
http://hillsboromaps.ci.hillsboro.or.us/hillsboro/index.cfm
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Message: 29
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:07:27 +0000
From: gschreckchat@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment - Wheels
To: "Eric Kytola" ,
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My understanding is that if you birng wheels you randomly get wheels if you need them. It takes too long to get a particular set of wheels. If you wanted your set, rather than run up to you with a wheel, he would have to search all the wheels and if yours was at the bottom, he would have to pull the other wheels out first. I doubt that anyone would have the patience for a three minute wheel change.
As for the requirement that you put wheels in, I have never had anyone ask whether I have wheels in before they gave me one. I assume that they decided that either there are enough wheels to risk giving them out without qualification or that they are not going to strand anyone on the road even if they have not put wheels in.
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gschreckchat@comcast.net
(503) 502-0425
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Eric Kytola"
wheels in...wheels out.
so if i brought wheels yesterday and put them in one of the two vehicles, are they available to anyone who brought wheels or just to me?
and really, are the wheel car people policing who did and didn't bring wheels when flats happen? don't they just slap a new wheel in...job done?
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [obra-bounces@list.obra.org','','','')">obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Fischer, Jim E (Corvallis)
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment - Wheels
Another alternative is to bring a tube, pump, tire lever, CO2...whatever you NORMALLY ride with when there is not a wheel car behind you on your training rides.
I doubt the added weight of these few items would have mattered yesterday, but in retrospect, that may have been why I didn't finish higher in the 3s. ;-)
If you flat, fix it yourself if you didn't put wheels in the car. Pretty simple.
Having worked many races as wheel support, if everybody brings wheels, we pick and choose to make sure we get a good cross-section of D/A, Campy, 9 vs 10, front vs rear, etc. Many people put their crap wheels in the pit. If you get them, you may be walking anyway.
My two cents...
Fish
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [obra-bounces@list.obra.org','','','')">obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of gschreckchat@comcast.net
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To: Dan H; Evan MacKenzie; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
Harsh though it is, I agree. Nothing would make people bring wheels faster than having no spares and a few people stranded until they could be picked up. Also, there was no excuse for not bringing them as there was an e-mail sent out that said there was no neutral support and that it would be wheels in/wheels out. For those who do not know what that means, it means "bring spare wheels or good walking shoes."
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From: "Dan H"
When I was racing, I brought spare wheels just in case I got a flat warming up. I assumed that if I didn't have spare wheels in a car, that I would be out of luck if I got a puncture or mishap. If I had wheels in a car and they were taken without my knowledge to be used as spares in another race and I had to wait for the race to finish before I could get them back, I would be furious.
What's wrong with "nobody in this race brought spare wheels so there will be no spares?"
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From: Evan MacKenzie
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] POC thanks and comment
I was a follow driver for a couple races yesterday. I am pleased to say that other than the aforementioned bottle toss, which I witnessed, both races I followed went off quite well. Thanks to everybody who participated for a nice, clean event. Thanks especially to the downed rider who we helped in the Master 4/5 race for your good spirits in spite of being involved in a wreck and abandoning. We all hope the guys involved in the crash in the 3?s make a speedy recovery.
OK, now one harsh comment.
None of the afternoon women brought any spare wheels. Five minutes before the race started, we had a wheel car with no wheels to give out. If it wasn?t for the three Master 4/5 men who brought in wheels late (which we in turn ?borrowed? so the women would have wheels), there would have been no wheels at all for you. Thanks by the way to the three 4/5s who didn?t know their wheels had been taken, and patiently waited for their wheels to arrive after the women?s race.
This happened at last year?s event as well, coincidently with the women. Now I am not trying to single anyone out here, but I am trying to make a point. If you don?t know if there will be neutral support at a race, bring wheels. Better yet, assume that there will NOT be neutral support wheels provided, and bring them anyway.
Again, thanks to everyone for coming out and racing. We hope to see you again next year.
-Evan
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Thanks for putting that on!
Yesterday was a beautiful day on the course, and hardly a breeze in sight. Well compared to last year. I don't know what the afternoon racers got for weather, but the morning was perfect!
Nice clean corners, marked pothole, plenty of staff and volunteers, free sugar! It was all awesome.
THANKS!
Quenton
p.s. I was under the impression that if you don't put wheels in you don't get wheels out. So, if one doesn't have spare wheels, and doesn't think to bring a tube, lever, and fame pump to put in the support car could one possibly toss in a pair of walking shoes ;) ?
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 11:43:43 -0700
From: Quenton Conant
Subject: [OBRA Chat] PIR number side
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What side do we pin up on for PIR this week?
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