Candi Murray

We just got back from Spain. We took 3 planes and 3 different airlines. We
never paid a fee. Our coupled bikes meet all the size requirements.
Candi

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Ellen Michaelson
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:39 PM
To: jakebigham
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Looking for advice on a travel case.

I've heard recently that international flights are starting to charge
now too. They have generally not done so in the past
but as Jake said, it's hit or miss who is behind the counter. I've been
on the same flight with other riders and I got charged
when they did not. But they may all charge soon. The last time we flew
to Europe, Delta wrote in our freq flyer info that there is no charge,
since their partner, Air France, didn't charge. But who knows if this
will work again.

jakebigham wrote:
> Like George I use a trico it has been on many trips and although
> there is a fair amount of disassemble involved but nothing difficult
> and the packing takes only 15 minutes. On the airlines question, when
> asked, "what in the box?" I have on occasion answered "exercise
> equipment" and not been charged the extra $60. Sometimes the ticket
> counter/bag checker will simply give you a pass. on international
> flights there is no charge on many airlines. I have found it is just
> a case of the luck of the draw. Many of the people behind the counter
> know well, when they see a trico (or any other bike case), that there
> is a bike inside and automatically charge for it.
> On Apr 30, 2007, at 8:14 AM, gschreckchat@comcast.net wrote:
>
>
>> I tend to find that whenever a U.S. airline hears the word bike,
>> they immediately charge a fee which ranges from $50 to $80 each
>> way. It does not seem to matter what case it is in. Since most of
>> the U.S. airlines are looking for additional revenue, they will use
>> any pretext to charge an additional fee. I have had them try to
>> charge me a fee for my bike which has couplers and fits in a
>> suitcase. Now I do not mention that there is a bike inside.
>>
>> --
>>
>> George Schreck
>> gschreckchat@comcast.net
>> (503) 502-0425
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Angela McCanna"
>>
>>
>>> Ditto! We are looking at the 2007 Sci-Con Evolution cases. They
>>>
>> are pretty
>>
>>> expensive ($750 from BikeMania.biz), but have some decent
>>>
>> features that make
>>
>>> them stand out. But, in the interest of economics, has anyone
>>>
>> ever tried
>>
>>> either the Thule travel case or the VeloSafe II (for two bikes)?
>>>
>>> Oh, side note. All of the bike case dimensions are well below the
>>>
>> airline
>>
>>> maximums (United) for "oversize" baggage. The Sci-Con Evolution
>>>
>> cases are
>>
>>> the lightest at 25 lbs (25 lbs BELOW the max weight of 50 per
>>>
>> bag). So, if
>>
>>> we are each bringing a backpack and one bike case, how likely is
>>>
>> it that we
>>
>>> will not have to pay the "oversize baggage fee? Any experiences
>>>
>> here?
>>
>>> Thanks, All.
>>>
>>>
>> &g t; Sco tt & Angela McCanna
>>
>>> Salem, Oregon USA
>>> gonespinning@msn.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-
>>>
>> bounces@list.obra.org] On
>>
>>> Behalf Of Andrew Reed
>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:02 AM
>>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Looking for advice on a travel case.
>>>
>>> Anyone out there ever try a Sci-Con Aero case?
>>> What else is good?
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Ellen Michaelson

I've heard recently that international flights are starting to charge
now too. They have generally not done so in the past
but as Jake said, it's hit or miss who is behind the counter. I've been
on the same flight with other riders and I got charged
when they did not. But they may all charge soon. The last time we flew
to Europe, Delta wrote in our freq flyer info that there is no charge,
since their partner, Air France, didn't charge. But who knows if this
will work again.

jakebigham wrote:
> Like George I use a trico it has been on many trips and although
> there is a fair amount of disassemble involved but nothing difficult
> and the packing takes only 15 minutes. On the airlines question, when
> asked, "what in the box?" I have on occasion answered "exercise
> equipment" and not been charged the extra $60. Sometimes the ticket
> counter/bag checker will simply give you a pass. on international
> flights there is no charge on many airlines. I have found it is just
> a case of the luck of the draw. Many of the people behind the counter
> know well, when they see a trico (or any other bike case), that there
> is a bike inside and automatically charge for it.
> On Apr 30, 2007, at 8:14 AM, gschreckchat@comcast.net wrote:
>
>
>> I tend to find that whenever a U.S. airline hears the word bike,
>> they immediately charge a fee which ranges from $50 to $80 each
>> way. It does not seem to matter what case it is in. Since most of
>> the U.S. airlines are looking for additional revenue, they will use
>> any pretext to charge an additional fee. I have had them try to
>> charge me a fee for my bike which has couplers and fits in a
>> suitcase. Now I do not mention that there is a bike inside.
>>
>> --
>>
>> George Schreck
>> gschreckchat@comcast.net
>> (503) 502-0425
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Angela McCanna"
>>
>>
>>> Ditto! We are looking at the 2007 Sci-Con Evolution cases. They
>>>
>> are pretty
>>
>>> expensive ($750 from BikeMania.biz), but have some decent
>>>
>> features that make
>>
>>> them stand out. But, in the interest of economics, has anyone
>>>
>> ever tried
>>
>>> either the Thule travel case or the VeloSafe II (for two bikes)?
>>>
>>> Oh, side note. All of the bike case dimensions are well below the
>>>
>> airline
>>
>>> maximums (United) for "oversize" baggage. The Sci-Con Evolution
>>>
>> cases are
>>
>>> the lightest at 25 lbs (25 lbs BELOW the max weight of 50 per
>>>
>> bag). So, if
>>
>>> we are each bringing a backpack and one bike case, how likely is
>>>
>> it that we
>>
>>> will not have to pay the "oversize baggage fee? Any experiences
>>>
>> here?
>>
>>> Thanks, All.
>>>
>>>
>> &g t; Sco tt & Angela McCanna
>>
>>> Salem, Oregon USA
>>> gonespinning@msn.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-
>>>
>> bounces@list.obra.org] On
>>
>>> Behalf Of Andrew Reed
>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:02 AM
>>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Looking for advice on a travel case.
>>>
>>> Anyone out there ever try a Sci-Con Aero case?
>>> What else is good?
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>>> OBRA mailing list
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jakebigham

Like George I use a trico it has been on many trips and although
there is a fair amount of disassemble involved but nothing difficult
and the packing takes only 15 minutes. On the airlines question, when
asked, "what in the box?" I have on occasion answered "exercise
equipment" and not been charged the extra $60. Sometimes the ticket
counter/bag checker will simply give you a pass. on international
flights there is no charge on many airlines. I have found it is just
a case of the luck of the draw. Many of the people behind the counter
know well, when they see a trico (or any other bike case), that there
is a bike inside and automatically charge for it.
On Apr 30, 2007, at 8:14 AM, gschreckchat@comcast.net wrote:

> I tend to find that whenever a U.S. airline hears the word bike,
> they immediately charge a fee which ranges from $50 to $80 each
> way. It does not seem to matter what case it is in. Since most of
> the U.S. airlines are looking for additional revenue, they will use
> any pretext to charge an additional fee. I have had them try to
> charge me a fee for my bike which has couplers and fits in a
> suitcase. Now I do not mention that there is a bike inside.
>
> --
>
> George Schreck
> gschreckchat@comcast.net
> (503) 502-0425
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Angela McCanna"
>
> > Ditto! We are looking at the 2007 Sci-Con Evolution cases. They
> are pretty
> > expensive ($750 from BikeMania.biz), but have some decent
> features that make
> > them stand out. But, in the interest of economics, has anyone
> ever tried
> > either the Thule travel case or the VeloSafe II (for two bikes)?
> >
> > Oh, side note. All of the bike case dimensions are well below the
> airline
> > maximums (United) for "oversize" baggage. The Sci-Con Evolution
> cases are
> > the lightest at 25 lbs (25 lbs BELOW the max weight of 50 per
> bag). So, if
> > we are each bringing a backpack and one bike case, how likely is
> it that we
> > will not have to pay the "oversize baggage fee? Any experiences
> here?
> >
> > Thanks, All.
> >
> &g t; Sco tt & Angela McCanna
> > Salem, Oregon USA
> > gonespinning@msn.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-
> bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of Andrew Reed
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:02 AM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Looking for advice on a travel case.
> >
> > Anyone out there ever try a Sci-Con Aero case?
> > What else is good?
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
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Don Whitehead

A couple of personal experiences:

Charges are for flight segments. I was charged twice on a trip to
hawaii, then again on the return.

Large bikes don't always fit into cases.

If your case is heavy, the combined weight can incur overweight
charges, which I recall as 65 lbs, but that was some time ago.

My conclusion: If I'm traveling within the US, its often better to
just rent something. If I'm going to Costa Rica, better to take my own
bike.

On 4/30/07, Candi Murray wrote:
>
>
>
> Mike and I both have coupled bikes. His is a Ritchey and mine is a Belinky.
> We have never been charged for a bike.
>
>
> Candi
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of gschreckchat@comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:15 AM
> To: Angela McCanna; 'Andrew Reed'; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Looking for advice on a travel case.
>
>
> I tend to find that whenever a U.S. airline hears the word bike, they
> immediately charge a fee which ranges from $50 to $80 each way. It does not
> seem to matter what case it is in. Since most of the U.S. airlines are
> looking for additional revenue, they will use any pretext to charge an
> additional fee. I have had them try to charge me a fee for my bike which
> has couplers and fits in a suitcase. Now I do not mention that there is a
> bike inside.
>
> --
>
> George Schreck
> gschreckchat@comcast.net
> (503) 502-0425
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Angela McCanna"
>
> > Ditto! We are looking at the 2007 Sci-Con Evolution cases. They are pretty
> > expensive ($750 from BikeMania.biz), but have some decent features that
> make
> > them stand out. But, in the interest of economics, has anyone ever tried
> > either the Thule travel case or the VeloSafe II (for two bikes)?
> >
> > Oh, side note. All of the bike case dimensions are well below the airline
> > maximums (United) for "oversize" baggage. The Sci-Con Evolution cases are
> > the lightest at 25 lbs (25 lbs BELOW the max weight of 50 per bag). So, if
> > we are each bringing a backpack and one bike case, how likely is it that
> we
> > will not have to pay the "oversize baggage fee? Any experiences here?
> >
> > Thanks, All.
> >
> &g t; Sco tt & Angela McCanna
> > Salem, Oregon USA
> > gonespinning@msn.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of Andrew Reed
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:02 AM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Looking for advice on a travel case.
> >
> > Anyone out there ever try a Sci-Con Aero case?
> > What else is good?
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
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Candi Murray

Mike and I both have coupled bikes. His is a Ritchey and mine is a Belinky.
We have never been charged for a bike.

Candi

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of gschreckchat@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:15 AM
To: Angela McCanna; 'Andrew Reed'; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Looking for advice on a travel case.

I tend to find that whenever a U.S. airline hears the word bike, they
immediately charge a fee which ranges from $50 to $80 each way. It does not
seem to matter what case it is in. Since most of the U.S. airlines are
looking for additional revenue, they will use any pretext to charge an
additional fee. I have had them try to charge me a fee for my bike which
has couplers and fits in a suitcase. Now I do not mention that there is a
bike inside.

--

George Schreck
gschreckchat@comcast.net
(503) 502-0425

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Angela McCanna"

> Ditto! We are looking at the 2007 Sci-Con Evolution cases. They are pretty

> expensive ($750 from BikeMania.biz), but have some decent features that
make
> them stand out. But, in the interest of economics, has anyone ever tried
> either the Thule travel case or the VeloSafe II (for two bikes)?
>
> Oh, side note. All of the bike case dimensions are well below the airline
> maximums (United) for "oversize" baggage. The Sci-Con Evolution cases are
> the lightest at 25 lbs (25 lbs BELOW the max weight of 50 per bag). So, if

> we are each bringing a backpack and one bike case, how likely is it that
we
> will not have to pay the "oversize baggage fee? Any experiences here?
>
> Thanks, All.
>
&g t; Sco tt & Angela McCanna
> Salem, Oregon USA
> gonespinning@msn.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Reed
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:02 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Looking for advice on a travel case.
>
> Anyone out there ever try a Sci-Con Aero case?
> What else is good?
> _______________________________________________
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gschreckchat@comcast.net

The TriCo cases are good, as are the Pedal Pak.

--

George Schreck
gschreckchat@comcast.net
(503) 502-0425

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Andrew Reed

> Anyone out there ever try a Sci-Con Aero case?
> What else is good?
> _______________________________________________
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gschreckchat@comcast.net

I tend to find that whenever a U.S. airline hears the word bike, they immediately charge a fee which ranges from $50 to $80 each way. It does not seem to matter what case it is in. Since most of the U.S. airlines are looking for additional revenue, they will use any pretext to charge an additional fee. I have had them try to charge me a fee for my bike which has couplers and fits in a suitcase. Now I do not mention that there is a bike inside.

--

George Schreck
gschreckchat@comcast.net
(503) 502-0425

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Angela McCanna"

> Ditto! We are looking at the 2007 Sci-Con Evolution cases. They are pretty
> expensive ($750 from BikeMania.biz), but have some decent features that make
> them stand out. But, in the interest of economics, has anyone ever tried
> either the Thule travel case or the VeloSafe II (for two bikes)?
>
> Oh, side note. All of the bike case dimensions are well below the airline
> maximums (United) for "oversize" baggage. The Sci-Con Evolution cases are
> the lightest at 25 lbs (25 lbs BELOW the max weight of 50 per bag). So, if
> we are each bringing a backpack and one bike case, how likely is it that we
> will not have to pay the "oversize baggage fee? Any experiences here?
>
> Thanks, All.
>
> Scott & Angela McCanna
> Salem, Oregon USA
> gonespinning@msn.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Reed
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:02 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Looking for advice on a travel case.
>
> Anyone out there ever try a Sci-Con Aero case?
> What else is good?
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Angela McCanna

Ditto! We are looking at the 2007 Sci-Con Evolution cases. They are pretty
expensive ($750 from BikeMania.biz), but have some decent features that make
them stand out. But, in the interest of economics, has anyone ever tried
either the Thule travel case or the VeloSafe II (for two bikes)?

Oh, side note. All of the bike case dimensions are well below the airline
maximums (United) for "oversize" baggage. The Sci-Con Evolution cases are
the lightest at 25 lbs (25 lbs BELOW the max weight of 50 per bag). So, if
we are each bringing a backpack and one bike case, how likely is it that we
will not have to pay the "oversize baggage fee? Any experiences here?

Thanks, All.

Scott & Angela McCanna
Salem, Oregon USA
gonespinning@msn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Andrew Reed
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:02 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Looking for advice on a travel case.

Anyone out there ever try a Sci-Con Aero case?
What else is good?
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Anyone out there ever try a Sci-Con Aero case?
What else is good?