question not complaint

Fischer, Jim E (Corvallis)

2007-05-03

Several key points to remember...

No officials are assigned to work mountain bike races. Generally,
officials are the ones doing the results (called Judges) at any road or
track event. Mountain bike promoters do not generally have any
officials working their events. They do everything themselves.

Hence, there is far greater cost for officials at road events, and
generally higher costs at ATB events for land use permits. Some
counties and land use agencies vary significantly on this point.

Finally, mountain bike races are basically mass start time trials.
Everyone generally gets a time. While not quite as tricky as an
individual time trial (where everyone has a unique start AND finish
time), it is still difficult to grab two or three competitors's times in
close succession as they cross a finish line. Some sort of electronic
"printing stopwatch" is often used. All the data MUST be entered into a
computer and sorted. Mountain events often offer 5 ability levels, 4
age groups and 2 sexes = ~ 30 categories or more. Road events often
only have 4 or 5 groups racing at a time with lead and follow vehicles
helping to keep track of folks and notify the finish line as to who is
finishing. This helps keep things straight.

Bunch sprint finishes on the road side utilize one or two cameras and
lots of eyes. Times are not important (except at a stage race).

Hope that helps explain some of the differences in results submission.

Fish

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Cheryl Willson
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:50 PM
To: masessa@charter.net
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] question not complaint

As a general rule, mountain bike promoters don't send results to me as
promptly as the road promoters (and, more correctly, road officials).
Candi does a spectacular job of sending results promptly and most of the
road officials do a great job.

That's the short answer. More detail below for people who find such
things fascinating.....(LOL)

Also, some mountain bike promoters feel that they should make
corrections before I post results (same goes with a few road
promoters) so they do not send them in an appropriate format until they
feel that they have gotten enough corrections in. I discourage this! I
feel that results should go up on the site ASAP and I don't mind posting
corrections.

Once in a while, I have trouble with the time format a particular
promoter uses in results but this is an exception.

For those of you that are wondering about the delay in some promoter's
races or flyers (of whatever discipline), they need to file their
paperwork before we add their flyers to the site and that can be a hold
up. Not everyone is good about filling about paperwork. ; )

On May 3, 2007, at 2:40 PM, wrote:

> Why is it that road race results get posted on the OBRA site so fast
> (sometimes the same day) and it takes up to a week for mountain bike
> results to get posted?
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Cheryl Willson

2007-05-03

As a general rule, mountain bike promoters don't send results to me
as promptly as the road promoters (and, more correctly, road
officials). Candi does a spectacular job of sending results promptly
and most of the road officials do a great job.

That's the short answer. More detail below for people who find such
things fascinating.....(LOL)

Also, some mountain bike promoters feel that they should make
corrections before I post results (same goes with a few road
promoters) so they do not send them in an appropriate format until
they feel that they have gotten enough corrections in. I discourage
this! I feel that results should go up on the site ASAP and I don't
mind posting corrections.

Once in a while, I have trouble with the time format a particular
promoter uses in results but this is an exception.

For those of you that are wondering about the delay in some
promoter's races or flyers (of whatever discipline), they need to
file their paperwork before we add their flyers to the site and that
can be a hold up. Not everyone is good about filling about
paperwork. ; )

On May 3, 2007, at 2:40 PM, wrote:

> Why is it that road race results get posted on the OBRA site so
> fast (sometimes the same day) and it takes up to a week for
> mountain bike results to get posted?
> DM
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masessa@charter.net

2007-05-03

Why is it that road race results get posted on the OBRA site so fast (sometimes the same day) and it takes up to a week for mountain bike results to get posted?
DM