Ron Frerichs
I haven't raced lately, but hope I can still comment...
I like seeing the Vancouver area people that I know show up for races all
season long. And I like to see local-racers-turned-pro come around once in
a while to remind us that they really are at a different level than the guys
who have to train at lunch-time. But I don't think they belong competing in
the OBRA championships.
I've always thought it should be limited to Oregon amateurs. I don't
understand why people keep insisting we need to let non-Oregonians and
professionals compete for OBRA championship medals. Other states have their
own championships to ride in. There are US Pro championship races. Those
are their venues to earn the champion's title. What's wrong with the local
amateurs having their own championship to aim for and earn?
If we need to make an exception, because we have an out-of-state population
that are regular racers here in Oregon, then maybe a rider could "earn"
their resident status. They would have to hold an annual OBRA license for
consecutive years, and compete in some number of races prior to the
championship - either ## during the current year, or ## during the prior
year, or some combination.
I don't think there should be an exception for professionals.
Again...nothing personal against them. The couple that I personally know
are great guys. But I shouldn't have to beat someone who does this for a
living to be the Oregon champion.
By the way...to tie the two threads together: I looked at my jersey from a
few years ago. It says "Oregon Champion," not "OBRA Champion." Guess
that's one of the things that need to be corrected in the new design.
Ron
From: "lisa graham"
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] State Championships
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 22:21:44 -0700
But doesn't that rider list Oregon as home? The catagory is PRO,1,2 right?
>From: STEVEN R HOLLAND
>To: hutchsraceteam , obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] State Championships
>Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 16:36:12 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Before ya all get to upset about this matter.....Check out what the medal
>says "OBRA" Championship.....not "Oregon State" Championship. Like Candi
>said, these are "OBRA" championships not state championships.
>
> That being said, I would suggest no one be eligible to win a medal
after
>buying the OBRA membership on the day of the race.......
>
>hutchsraceteam wrote:
> I see value on both sides. One could easily argue that if one races
>frequently in the Seattle area during the year that they should be
eligible
>for the USCF Washington State Championship? I think a good compromise
>would be to restrict the Championship based on OBRA participation. The
>problem is coming up with a way to administer it.
>
> I have nothing against frequent OBRA participants being eligible for
the
>Championships. It is that fact that anyone can just show up and buy a
>membership and take home the Championship. There are other Championships
>available for other riders from other organizations or levels.
>Historically I realize that this has not been an issue, but last year we
>almost had a rider from the Tour of Italy win the regional title.
>
> AP
>
>tackyglueit wrote:
>
> why would someone from Vancouver count? i don't see why frequently
>racing outside the state you live in qualifies you for out of state
>championship privileges?
>
>
>
> On 5/7/07, Tim Schauer wrote: Yep! There
>are certainly a lot of loyal, very actively racing, long time
>OBRA members, that reside in SW Washington. There are even a few good
>OBRA events up on this side of the river too!...;-)
>
>-Tim Schauer
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto: obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>Behalf Of Candi Murray
>Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:32 PM
>To: masessa@charter.net; obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] State Championships
>
>Yes that is indeed the rule. Out of our 2032 riders currently jut over
>230 come from California or Washington. I have tried to get away from
>calling them the State Championships and just calling them the OBRA
>championships Candi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org ] On
>Behalf Of masessa@charter.net
>Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:20 PM
>To: OBRA
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] State Championships
>
>From what I can gather the qualifications for the Oregon State
>Championships, in any event, is that the racer be an annual OBRA license
>holder. Is that all that's needed? And has this been examined in the
>recent past? The reason I'm asking is that this weekend at the Spring
>Thaw, in at least one case, someone from Central California bought an
>annual license and took home a State Championship medal (3rd place).
>This just seems wrong to me. I don't know if he did it just for that
>reason or he thought he might come up for another race. I didn't see him
>listed as doing any other Oregon races.
>Any thoughts on requiring a person to be an Oregon resident to qualify?
>Dave M
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