Getting the laps right

Rick Johnson

2007-05-08

One would hope, but I've been there for auto races in the spring where
they decided at the last minute that the track wasn't conditioned
enough (surface oils still weeping out of the new asphalt) and they
decided to throw down lime right before a weekend event.

It sucked pretty bad having to breathe that...



Rick



Jess Mace wrote:


who's going to be riding at PIR after September?  

I would think the rain would take care of any lime dust between October
and April...

Jess C. Mace
Clinical Outcomes Research Coordinator
for Timothy Smith, MD, MPH
Otolaryngology - Head and Neck Surgery
Oregon Health & Science University
503.494.5886





"Rick Johnson" <RCJohnson1@attglobal.net> 5/8/2007 1:02 PM >>>





And perhaps create new problems. As an example one of the methods to

speed the "conditioning" of new asphalt is to spread lime dust on it
(this has been done to PIR in past repavings). Lime dust is very
irritating to the nose and throat when it is kicked up into the air.
I advise keeping in close communication with the track throughout the
process to avoid any nasty surprises.

Rick

Candi Murray wrote: PIR is scheduled to be resurfaced in September. We
have hopes that it willfix all the problems ;-)Candi
-----Original Message-----From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
[mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] OnBehalf Of Chris BrightSent:
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:34 PMTo: obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA
Chat] Getting the laps rightI think Candi is (once again) being a bit
generous. In the 1/2/3 fieldthe updated lap count was clearly
communicated and everyone racedaccordingly. As for the groove, I had a
ringside seat for the crash andit seemed to occur a couple of yards to
the left of the crack. Lookedlike a touch of wheels to me, but I could
be off the mark on this one. I would like to see the groove filled
because it is dangerous, buteveryone is well aware of it by now. If one
crashes because of it, Ican't help but see that person as being
partially at fault. On arelated point, I have noticed that this year
there a number of gouges inthe surface of PIR that I hadn't noticed in
the past (seemingly from carwreckage). They aren't a big deal, but they
become a bigger deal in thewet. If the crew is going to the effort of
patching the groove, I wouldsuggest they take a closer look around the
track.Chris-----Original Message-----From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
[mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] OnBehalf Of Candi MurraySent:
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:51 AMTo: 'Danny Knudsen'Cc:
obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Getting the laps
rightYou are absolutely correct. The officials should have made
effortssooner.However, it is very hard to anticipate the slowing and
acceleratingpacksand determine when they will finish. We will try and
adjust the laps sothat it does not happen again.Both groups need to
review the neutralizing and overtaking of riders.I have asked Jim and
Jeff to contact the track and see what kind ofpatchcould be done to that
crack.Candi-----Original Message-----From: Danny Knudsen
[mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:47 AMTo:
cmurray@obra.orgCc: obra@list.obra.orgSubject: RE: Getting the laps
rightCandy, I was 10th on the real last lap going across the line and
the lapbefore someone rang the bell for 1 to go so myself and the other
9 aheadof me went for it. I not blaming anyone for the bad crash on the
secondlast lap but the change in the laps was needed long before it did.
The grovein the straght has been the worst for riders and for the last
20+ yearsthat I have riden out at P.I.R you need to stay away from as
well as riders notchanging there line in the last 200m.>From the lat two
weeks of riding at P.I.R the riders need to understandthe rules of going
netural when the pack is passing.Danny Knudsen From: "Candi Murray"
<cmurray@obra.org>Reply-To: <cmurray@obra.org>To: "'Danny Knudsen'"
<dannyknudsen@msn.com>, <>Subject: RE: Getting the laps right Date:
Tue, 8 May 2007 11:14:38 -0700 Yes they did. We saw that both groups
were going to finish on top of each other, so when you were going to
see 1 to go we changed it to 2 and yelled to the
field.Candi-----Original Message-----From: Danny Knudsen
[mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:26 AMTo:
obra@list.obra.orgCc: cmurray@obra.orgSubject: Getting the laps
rightLast night did the 123's do one more lap other then what was told
to use at the start of the race (18), if so why.Danny Knudsen
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Jess Mace

2007-05-08

who's going to be riding at PIR after September?
I would think the rain would take care of any lime dust between October
and April...

Jess C. Mace
Clinical Outcomes Research Coordinator
for Timothy Smith, MD, MPH
Otolaryngology - Head and Neck Surgery
Oregon Health & Science University
503.494.5886

>>> "Rick Johnson" 5/8/2007 1:02 PM >>>
And perhaps create new problems. As an example one of the methods to
speed the "conditioning" of new asphalt is to spread lime dust on it
(this has been done to PIR in past repavings). Lime dust is very
irritating to the nose and throat when it is kicked up into the air.
I advise keeping in close communication with the track throughout the
process to avoid any nasty surprises.

Rick

Candi Murray wrote: PIR is scheduled to be resurfaced in September. We
have hopes that it willfix all the problems ;-)Candi
-----Original Message-----From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
[mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] OnBehalf Of Chris BrightSent:
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:34 PMTo: obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA
Chat] Getting the laps rightI think Candi is (once again) being a bit
generous. In the 1/2/3 fieldthe updated lap count was clearly
communicated and everyone racedaccordingly. As for the groove, I had a
ringside seat for the crash andit seemed to occur a couple of yards to
the left of the crack. Lookedlike a touch of wheels to me, but I could
be off the mark on this one. I would like to see the groove filled
because it is dangerous, buteveryone is well aware of it by now. If one
crashes because of it, Ican't help but see that person as being
partially at fault. On arelated point, I have noticed that this year
there a number of gouges inthe surface of PIR that I hadn't noticed in
the past (seemingly from carwreckage). They aren't a big deal, but they
become a bigger deal in thewet. If the crew is going to the effort of
patching the groove, I wouldsuggest they take a closer look around the
track.Chris-----Original Message-----From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
[mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] OnBehalf Of Candi MurraySent:
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:51 AMTo: 'Danny Knudsen'Cc:
obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Getting the laps
rightYou are absolutely correct. The officials should have made
effortssooner.However, it is very hard to anticipate the slowing and
acceleratingpacksand determine when they will finish. We will try and
adjust the laps sothat it does not happen again.Both groups need to
review the neutralizing and overtaking of riders.I have asked Jim and
Jeff to contact the track and see what kind ofpatchcould be done to that
crack.Candi-----Original Message-----From: Danny Knudsen
[mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:47 AMTo:
cmurray@obra.orgCc: obra@list.obra.orgSubject: RE: Getting the laps
rightCandy, I was 10th on the real last lap going across the line and
the lapbefore someone rang the bell for 1 to go so myself and the other
9 aheadof me went for it. I not blaming anyone for the bad crash on the
secondlast lap but the change in the laps was needed long before it did.
The grovein the straght has been the worst for riders and for the last
20+ yearsthat I have riden out at P.I.R you need to stay away from as
well as riders notchanging there line in the last 200m.>From the lat two
weeks of riding at P.I.R the riders need to understandthe rules of going
netural when the pack is passing.Danny Knudsen From: "Candi Murray"
Reply-To: To: "'Danny Knudsen'"
, <>Subject: RE: Getting the laps right Date:
Tue, 8 May 2007 11:14:38 -0700 Yes they did. We saw that both groups
were going to finish on top of each other, so when you were going to
see 1 to go we changed it to 2 and yelled to the
field.Candi-----Original Message-----From: Danny Knudsen
[mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:26 AMTo:
obra@list.obra.orgCc: cmurray@obra.orgSubject: Getting the laps
rightLast night did the 123's do one more lap other then what was told
to use at the start of the race (18), if so why.Danny Knudsen
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Rick Johnson

2007-05-08

And perhaps create new problems. As an example one of the methods to
speed the "conditioning" of new asphalt is to spread lime dust on it
(this has been done to PIR in past repavings). Lime dust is very
irritating to the nose and throat when it is kicked up into the air.

I advise keeping in close communication with the track throughout the
process to avoid any nasty surprises.



Rick



Candi Murray wrote:


PIR is scheduled to be resurfaced in September. We have hopes that it will

fix all the problems ;-)
Candi






-----Original Message-----

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Bright
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:34 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Getting the laps right

I think Candi is (once again) being a bit generous. In the 1/2/3 field
the updated lap count was clearly communicated and everyone raced
accordingly. As for the groove, I had a ringside seat for the crash and
it seemed to occur a couple of yards to the left of the crack. Looked
like a touch of wheels to me, but I could be off the mark on this one.

I would like to see the groove filled because it is dangerous, but
everyone is well aware of it by now. If one crashes because of it, I
can't help but see that person as being partially at fault. On a
related point, I have noticed that this year there a number of gouges in
the surface of PIR that I hadn't noticed in the past (seemingly from car
wreckage). They aren't a big deal, but they become a bigger deal in the
wet. If the crew is going to the effort of patching the groove, I would
suggest they take a closer look around the track.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:51 AM
To: 'Danny Knudsen'
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Getting the laps right

You are absolutely correct. The officials should have made efforts
sooner.
However, it is very hard to anticipate the slowing and accelerating
packs
and determine when they will finish. We will try and adjust the laps so
that it does not happen again.
Both groups need to review the neutralizing and overtaking of riders.
I have asked Jim and Jeff to contact the track and see what kind of
patch
could be done to that crack.
Candi

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Knudsen [mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:47 AM
To: cmurray@obra.org
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: RE: Getting the laps right

Candy, I was 10th on the real last lap going across the line and the lap

before someone rang the bell for 1 to go so myself and the other 9 ahead
of
me went for it. I not blaming anyone for the bad crash on the second
last
lap but the change in the laps was needed long before it did. The grove
in
the straght has been the worst for riders and for the last 20+ years
that I
have riden out at P.I.R you need to stay away from as well as riders not

changing there line in the last 200m.

>From the lat two weeks of riding at P.I.R the riders need to understand
the
rules of going netural when the pack is passing.

Danny Knudsen



From: "Candi Murray" <cmurray@obra.org>

Reply-To: <cmurray@obra.org>
To: "'Danny Knudsen'" <dannyknudsen@msn.com>, <>
Subject: RE: Getting the laps right Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:14:38


-0700



Yes they did. We saw that both groups were going to finish on top of



each



other, so when you were going to see 1 to go we changed it to 2 and



yelled



to the field.

Candi

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Knudsen [mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:26 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Cc: cmurray@obra.org
Subject: Getting the laps right

Last night did the 123's do one more lap other then what was told to



use at



the start of the race (18), if so why.

Danny Knudsen




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2007-05-08

One thing to remember is that this is only PIR and essentially a training race. My apologies in advance to those who do take it more seriously.

--

George Schreck
gschreckchat@comcast.net
(503) 502-0425

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Candi Murray"

> Yes they did. We saw that both groups were going to finish on top of each
> other, so when you were going to see 1 to go we changed it to 2 and yelled
> to the field.
> Candi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danny Knudsen [mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:26 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Cc: cmurray@obra.org
> Subject: Getting the laps right
>
> Last night did the 123's do one more lap other then what was told to use at
> the start of the race (18), if so why.
>
>
> Danny Knudsen
>
>
>
>
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Candi Murray

2007-05-08

PIR is scheduled to be resurfaced in September. We have hopes that it will
fix all the problems ;-)
Candi

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Bright
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:34 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Getting the laps right

I think Candi is (once again) being a bit generous. In the 1/2/3 field
the updated lap count was clearly communicated and everyone raced
accordingly. As for the groove, I had a ringside seat for the crash and
it seemed to occur a couple of yards to the left of the crack. Looked
like a touch of wheels to me, but I could be off the mark on this one.

I would like to see the groove filled because it is dangerous, but
everyone is well aware of it by now. If one crashes because of it, I
can't help but see that person as being partially at fault. On a
related point, I have noticed that this year there a number of gouges in
the surface of PIR that I hadn't noticed in the past (seemingly from car
wreckage). They aren't a big deal, but they become a bigger deal in the
wet. If the crew is going to the effort of patching the groove, I would
suggest they take a closer look around the track.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:51 AM
To: 'Danny Knudsen'
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Getting the laps right

You are absolutely correct. The officials should have made efforts
sooner.
However, it is very hard to anticipate the slowing and accelerating
packs
and determine when they will finish. We will try and adjust the laps so
that it does not happen again.
Both groups need to review the neutralizing and overtaking of riders.
I have asked Jim and Jeff to contact the track and see what kind of
patch
could be done to that crack.
Candi

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Knudsen [mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:47 AM
To: cmurray@obra.org
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: RE: Getting the laps right

Candy, I was 10th on the real last lap going across the line and the lap

before someone rang the bell for 1 to go so myself and the other 9 ahead
of
me went for it. I not blaming anyone for the bad crash on the second
last
lap but the change in the laps was needed long before it did. The grove
in
the straght has been the worst for riders and for the last 20+ years
that I
have riden out at P.I.R you need to stay away from as well as riders not

changing there line in the last 200m.

From the lat two weeks of riding at P.I.R the riders need to understand
the
rules of going netural when the pack is passing.

Danny Knudsen

>From: "Candi Murray"
>Reply-To:
>To: "'Danny Knudsen'" , <>
>Subject: RE: Getting the laps right Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:14:38
-0700
>
>Yes they did. We saw that both groups were going to finish on top of
each
>other, so when you were going to see 1 to go we changed it to 2 and
yelled
>to the field.
>Candi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Danny Knudsen [mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:26 AM
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Cc: cmurray@obra.org
>Subject: Getting the laps right
>
>Last night did the 123's do one more lap other then what was told to
use at
>the start of the race (18), if so why.
>
>
>Danny Knudsen
>
>
>
>

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Chris Bright

2007-05-08

I think Candi is (once again) being a bit generous. In the 1/2/3 field
the updated lap count was clearly communicated and everyone raced
accordingly. As for the groove, I had a ringside seat for the crash and
it seemed to occur a couple of yards to the left of the crack. Looked
like a touch of wheels to me, but I could be off the mark on this one.

I would like to see the groove filled because it is dangerous, but
everyone is well aware of it by now. If one crashes because of it, I
can't help but see that person as being partially at fault. On a
related point, I have noticed that this year there a number of gouges in
the surface of PIR that I hadn't noticed in the past (seemingly from car
wreckage). They aren't a big deal, but they become a bigger deal in the
wet. If the crew is going to the effort of patching the groove, I would
suggest they take a closer look around the track.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:51 AM
To: 'Danny Knudsen'
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Getting the laps right

You are absolutely correct. The officials should have made efforts
sooner.
However, it is very hard to anticipate the slowing and accelerating
packs
and determine when they will finish. We will try and adjust the laps so
that it does not happen again.
Both groups need to review the neutralizing and overtaking of riders.
I have asked Jim and Jeff to contact the track and see what kind of
patch
could be done to that crack.
Candi

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Knudsen [mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:47 AM
To: cmurray@obra.org
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: RE: Getting the laps right

Candy, I was 10th on the real last lap going across the line and the lap

before someone rang the bell for 1 to go so myself and the other 9 ahead
of
me went for it. I not blaming anyone for the bad crash on the second
last
lap but the change in the laps was needed long before it did. The grove
in
the straght has been the worst for riders and for the last 20+ years
that I
have riden out at P.I.R you need to stay away from as well as riders not

changing there line in the last 200m.

From the lat two weeks of riding at P.I.R the riders need to understand
the
rules of going netural when the pack is passing.

Danny Knudsen

>From: "Candi Murray"
>Reply-To:
>To: "'Danny Knudsen'" , <>
>Subject: RE: Getting the laps right Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:14:38
-0700
>
>Yes they did. We saw that both groups were going to finish on top of
each
>other, so when you were going to see 1 to go we changed it to 2 and
yelled
>to the field.
>Candi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Danny Knudsen [mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:26 AM
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Cc: cmurray@obra.org
>Subject: Getting the laps right
>
>Last night did the 123's do one more lap other then what was told to
use at
>the start of the race (18), if so why.
>
>
>Danny Knudsen
>
>
>
>

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Candi Murray

2007-05-08

You are absolutely correct. The officials should have made efforts sooner.
However, it is very hard to anticipate the slowing and accelerating packs
and determine when they will finish. We will try and adjust the laps so
that it does not happen again.
Both groups need to review the neutralizing and overtaking of riders.
I have asked Jim and Jeff to contact the track and see what kind of patch
could be done to that crack.
Candi

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Knudsen [mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:47 AM
To: cmurray@obra.org
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: RE: Getting the laps right

Candy, I was 10th on the real last lap going across the line and the lap
before someone rang the bell for 1 to go so myself and the other 9 ahead of
me went for it. I not blaming anyone for the bad crash on the second last
lap but the change in the laps was needed long before it did. The grove in
the straght has been the worst for riders and for the last 20+ years that I
have riden out at P.I.R you need to stay away from as well as riders not
changing there line in the last 200m.

From the lat two weeks of riding at P.I.R the riders need to understand the
rules of going netural when the pack is passing.

Danny Knudsen

>From: "Candi Murray"
>Reply-To:
>To: "'Danny Knudsen'" , <>
>Subject: RE: Getting the laps right Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:14:38 -0700
>
>Yes they did. We saw that both groups were going to finish on top of each
>other, so when you were going to see 1 to go we changed it to 2 and yelled
>to the field.
>Candi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Danny Knudsen [mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:26 AM
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Cc: cmurray@obra.org
>Subject: Getting the laps right
>
>Last night did the 123's do one more lap other then what was told to use at
>the start of the race (18), if so why.
>
>
>Danny Knudsen
>
>
>
>


Danny Knudsen

2007-05-08

Candy, I was 10th on the real last lap going across the line and the lap
before someone rang the bell for 1 to go so myself and the other 9 ahead of
me went for it. I not blaming anyone for the bad crash on the second last
lap but the change in the laps was needed long before it did. The grove in
the straght has been the worst for riders and for the last 20+ years that I
have riden out at P.I.R you need to stay away from as well as riders not
changing there line in the last 200m.

From the lat two weeks of riding at P.I.R the riders need to understand the
rules of going netural when the pack is passing.

Danny Knudsen

>From: "Candi Murray"
>Reply-To:
>To: "'Danny Knudsen'" , <>
>Subject: RE: Getting the laps right Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:14:38 -0700
>
>Yes they did. We saw that both groups were going to finish on top of each
>other, so when you were going to see 1 to go we changed it to 2 and yelled
>to the field.
>Candi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Danny Knudsen [mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:26 AM
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Cc: cmurray@obra.org
>Subject: Getting the laps right
>
>Last night did the 123's do one more lap other then what was told to use at
>the start of the race (18), if so why.
>
>
>Danny Knudsen
>
>
>
>


Candi Murray

2007-05-08

Yes they did. We saw that both groups were going to finish on top of each
other, so when you were going to see 1 to go we changed it to 2 and yelled
to the field.
Candi

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Knudsen [mailto:dannyknudsen@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:26 AM
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Cc: cmurray@obra.org
Subject: Getting the laps right

Last night did the 123's do one more lap other then what was told to use at
the start of the race (18), if so why.

Danny Knudsen


gschreckchat@comcast.net

2007-05-08

Actually, I thought that we did 20, because I saw lap 17 twice I believe, in addition to the two final laps. More for my money, thanks Jim.

Actually, I think it was because we passed the 3/4 pack just beofre the sprint. The 3/4's received an extra lap as well because of it.

Of course, as often, I could be completely wrong, but at least I say it with conviction.

"Often wrong, but never in doubt"

George Schreck
gschreckchat@comcast.net
(503) 502-0425

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> Last night did the 123's do one more lap other then what was told to use at
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Danny Knudsen

2007-05-08

Last night did the 123's do one more lap other then what was told to use at
the start of the race (18), if so why.

Danny Knudsen