Danny Knudsen
Then I stand corrected and I will climb back in my hole but my main point of
this was if it was the correct last lap we may have not the bad ending that
we did.
Thank you all
Danny Knudsen
>From: Charlie
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Extra Lap
>Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 13:37:55 -0700
>
>Danny,
>
>As the rider in the Cat 1/2/3 who was off the front last night and "won"
>the race with a lap to go, I can say that it was unfortunate that another
>lap was added. However, as someone who has worked as an official at Monday
>PIR and many other OBRA events, I know the rules.
>
>The bell does dictate the race and if the officials felt the need to change
>something in the race, then they were making the decision they felt was
>best at the time. So, it was unfortunate that I didn't win...but I think I
>will race again and it was a great workout. I'm more concerned about the
>people who went to the hospital than I am about an extra lap and being
>critical of the officials.
>
>Monday PIR does provide mentors to the beginner fields and there were some
>there last night. If you are suggesting that riders in the Cat 1/2/3 field
>need a lesson on racing then you're saying something different and those
>riders shouldn't be racing.
>
>Last, if you are going to forward a private message from Candi to the
>group, at least have the courtesy to spell her name correctly.
>
>
>-Charlie
>
>
>Subject: Re: Extra lap!
>Date: 05/08/2007 01:09 PM
>From: Danny Knudsen
>
>
>Fine, Candy
>
> >From: "Candi Murray"
> >Reply-To:
> >To: "'Danny Knudsen'"
> >Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Extra lap!
> >Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:44:29 -0700
> > >Danny
> > >That lap board did not say 1 to go for your field until the last lap.
>We
> >changed it to 2 at the point there was only 1 rider off the front. We
> >yelled
> >to the field. I heard for many of them that they heard that we had added
>a
> >lap.
> > >The officials working Monday PIr need a lot of help. Inattention is one
>of
> >their problems. That is why I try to back them up. We will work at being
> >better.
> > >They do provide mentors for both the Novice Women and Novice Men
>fields.
> >And
> >have done that for that last 3-5 years.
> > >Candi
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> >Behalf Of Danny Knudsen
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:38 PM
> >To: obra@list.obra.org
> >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Extra lap!
> > >
> > >David, First of all to talk to me if I just started to ride/race a few
> >day's
> >ago and for the lap board it stated "1" to go and that's way we all
> >sprinted
> >for it. So ask the rider who did win the race on the first "last lap" and
> >see how he feels or see when it will happen to you how you feel about
> >paying
> >for the race.. Also If the promoter of the race would take more time to
> >educate the riders on how to race other than just setting up the tables
>and
> >taking money, like they did in the pass we would hopefully see less
> >emergency vehicles showing up to the race. Jeff Hass did for years and
>the
> >team that promotes the race needed to ride with the lower CAT's to teach
> >them on the correct riding techniques.
> > >
> > >Danny Knudsen
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: David Hart
> > >To: Bret Berner
> > >Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> > >Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:03 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Extra lap!
> > >
> > >The officials can change laps and hot spots on a moments notice. Sorry
> >that
> >this stinks. There was a missed hotspot that we made up in the 4 field
>and
> >we had to add a lap for the 1/2/3. This really made it confusing to some
> >but Candi and Lisa yelled to the field that there was an extra lap. I
>know
> >it's hard but it is the rider's responsibility to look at the lap board
>and
> >pay attention to the officials. Especially when you see them leaning over
> >the barrier yelling "2 to go" and waving thier hands.
> > >
> > >Just because I say you have 18 laps and 3 hot spots at the start
>doesn't
> >mean it's true..you could do more or less laps and the same goes for hot
> >spots. We try to keep it fair to all.
> > >
> > >BTW, if you don't hear a bell, the hot spot or finish don't exist for
>that
> >lap. The bell rules.
> > >
> > >David
> > >
> > >On 5/8/07, Bret Berner wrote:
> > >To support what Candy said. I Heard her yell two laps to go and I
>yelled
> >that in the pack 5 times with no effect !
> > >
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