Each such corner was well manned with a corner marshal, stop signs, and
even flashing lights. One might be given the impression traffic was
being stopped for them so it was acceptable to cut the corners. No?
-Erik
All fear the Candi Hammer!
Candi Murray wrote:
>There has been a protest filed on just this issue.
>We are investigating it currently and will rule on it within the next 24
>hours.
>Cadni
>-----Original Message-----
>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>Behalf Of Lisa_Tim Ehlers
>Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:11 PM
>To: T. Kenji Sugahara; obra List
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] TTT Line Crossers
>
>Interesting observation mr. kenji! When I post out the rest of my photos
>you will find some that are crossing the yellow line also. I think to
>probably get the best line possible without using brakes you will push the
>yellow line if you can and maybe then some, and some more and maybe so on.
>If you come into a few of the corners and you are pushing 25-30mph and on
>the yellow, your momentum will most likely throw you into the oncoming lane
>on your exit of the corner (unless you slow down prior or brake through the
>corner). marshals were at the most trafficked areas and were doing their
>best to stop traffic in both directions as teams came through. Safety I
>believe is always first and I think this race is pretty safe with its
>location and traffic (minimal).
>
>I have shots from the start line and some of the teams are crossing the
>yellow there so they can get around the teams that are staging to start in a
>
>safe passing distance. I also should have one where there are three teams
>all shooting down towards corner seven and there is no way to ride three
>teams in one of those lanes.
>
>I do not think it was blatant by any team that was out there, and what were
>the instructions given to them at the start? Since you have ridden this
>course before you know how it is laid out so there are a few corners that
>you will push or go over the yellow and most have a clear line of site for
>oncoming traffic. Corner 7 which is a hard left is coned so you basically
>have to go into the oncoming lane on entry and exit of the corner. They
>also had the marshals at that corner.
>
>I don't think any of the results would be much different and I do not think
>that by us photographers posting our pictures that any possible changes
>should occur. If that would become the norm then myself as a photographer
>would have to make sure I post no photo where anyone appears in violation of
>
>the rules set in OBRA or any particular rules/instructions given at the
>start.
>
>To answer your question though. I did not witness it to be prevalent
>through the entire course. There were corners and teams that did cross the
>yellow, and it happened. I don't believe even those that are in our photos
>were doing this on every corner or with disregard for their safety or rules.
>
>I again would ask what were the instructions at the start? Not pointing
>fingers at anyone, but it is a race, they are riding hard as a team and
>trying to push the limit and get a championship medal. No one is hurt, no
>one is worse off for it.
>
>Now was your original thought just pointing out something from Bill's photos
>
>or is it trying to say that some teams were possibly breaking a rule?
>
>Thanks for reading if you made it this far.
>
>Tim Ehlers
>TRE Photography
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
>To: "obra List"
>Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:46 PM
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] TTT Line Crossers
>
>
>
>
>>Hey folks,
>>
>>I was dinking around on Bill's site and found a bunch of photos of
>>some line crossers. Was this prevalent at the race? I've highlighted
>>some of the photos on my site.
>>
>>(Yes, I had fun with them- but all of them were across the line)
>>
>>k-
>>
>>http://obra3.blogspot.com
>>
>>
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There has been a protest filed on just this issue.
We are investigating it currently and will rule on it within the next 24
hours.
Cadni
-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Lisa_Tim Ehlers
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 8:11 PM
To: T. Kenji Sugahara; obra List
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] TTT Line Crossers
Interesting observation mr. kenji! When I post out the rest of my photos
you will find some that are crossing the yellow line also. I think to
probably get the best line possible without using brakes you will push the
yellow line if you can and maybe then some, and some more and maybe so on.
If you come into a few of the corners and you are pushing 25-30mph and on
the yellow, your momentum will most likely throw you into the oncoming lane
on your exit of the corner (unless you slow down prior or brake through the
corner). marshals were at the most trafficked areas and were doing their
best to stop traffic in both directions as teams came through. Safety I
believe is always first and I think this race is pretty safe with its
location and traffic (minimal).
I have shots from the start line and some of the teams are crossing the
yellow there so they can get around the teams that are staging to start in a
safe passing distance. I also should have one where there are three teams
all shooting down towards corner seven and there is no way to ride three
teams in one of those lanes.
I do not think it was blatant by any team that was out there, and what were
the instructions given to them at the start? Since you have ridden this
course before you know how it is laid out so there are a few corners that
you will push or go over the yellow and most have a clear line of site for
oncoming traffic. Corner 7 which is a hard left is coned so you basically
have to go into the oncoming lane on entry and exit of the corner. They
also had the marshals at that corner.
I don't think any of the results would be much different and I do not think
that by us photographers posting our pictures that any possible changes
should occur. If that would become the norm then myself as a photographer
would have to make sure I post no photo where anyone appears in violation of
the rules set in OBRA or any particular rules/instructions given at the
start.
To answer your question though. I did not witness it to be prevalent
through the entire course. There were corners and teams that did cross the
yellow, and it happened. I don't believe even those that are in our photos
were doing this on every corner or with disregard for their safety or rules.
I again would ask what were the instructions at the start? Not pointing
fingers at anyone, but it is a race, they are riding hard as a team and
trying to push the limit and get a championship medal. No one is hurt, no
one is worse off for it.
Now was your original thought just pointing out something from Bill's photos
or is it trying to say that some teams were possibly breaking a rule?
Thanks for reading if you made it this far.
Tim Ehlers
TRE Photography
----- Original Message -----
From: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
To: "obra List"
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] TTT Line Crossers
> Hey folks,
>
> I was dinking around on Bill's site and found a bunch of photos of
> some line crossers. Was this prevalent at the race? I've highlighted
> some of the photos on my site.
>
> (Yes, I had fun with them- but all of them were across the line)
>
> k-
>
> http://obra3.blogspot.com
>
>
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