EAL
12.3(a) Protests concerning incidents during the race will be presented to the
Chief Referee in writing and accompanied by a fee of $10, which will be
forwarded to OBRA. They must be submitted within 15 minutes of the
protester's finish
12.3(b) Section 12.3(a) notwithstanding, the Chief Referee shall review all race photos, (solicited and otherwise), satellite photos, respond to all emails, late night telephone calls and parking lot discussions and wiretaps (warrantless or otherwise) for a period not to exceed the earlier of (i) twelve (12) months or (ii) when all Cheif Referee's have quit are switched to umpiring Little League Baseball in order to determine the Final, Final, Final Results of any race.
EAL wrote:
I wasn't there and I didn't race. So I don't have a dog in this hunt. That said, Rule 12.3 isn't ambiguous:
Protests concerning incidents during the race will be presented to
the Chief Referee in writing and accompanied by a fee of $10, which will
be forwarded to OBRA. They must be submitted within 15 minutes of the
protester's finish
This kind of rule exists in one form or another in nearly all sporting events. There is a strong desire for certainty and closure for an event and aggrieved parties must act quickly and with certainty or move on to the next race.
So while DQ is not appropriate, public reprimand etc. is still fair game and a team that wants to forfiet on their own is certainly welcome to.
Just my .002 adjusted for inflation.
Ed Lanton
Candi Murray wrote:
Scenario
A team time trial. Times are posted at the start. Long drive home and the
wonderful OBRA photographers start to post their wares. A 2nd place team
notes that the team that beat them by a mere 7 seconds is photographed over
the centerline in no less then 4 pictures. Protest is filed. Results are
posted on the web 20 minutes later.
What to do?
OBRA rules state
15.1.2 Unless instructed by the Chief Referee, all riders must stay to the
right of the centerline
11.1 No rider shall benefit from his or her misconduct. No team shall
benefit from its misconduct, or the misconduct of one of its members.
12.3 Protests concerning incidents during the race will be presented to the
Chief Referee in writing and accompanied by a fee of $10, which will be
forwarded to OBRA. They must be submitted within 15 minutes of the
protester's finish
Presuming this is a standard "though shalt not cross the centerline" event,
it's a DQ. 6" centerline violations in the corner would be applying rules to
apply rules. This is flagrantly cutting the corner and the distance. If
the photographs were the only four turns that they cut, its probably worth 5
seconds at best. Since we all know that if this happened in the
photographs, it happened at 90% of the opportunities on the course.
If the violating team is disqualified does every team evidenced by the
photographs get disqualified? Or just the one protest acted upon?
Do we allow the 15 minute rule from acting on the matter. Are results really
formally posted at the event or is the on line results the final results.
Its obviously not in everyone's interest to allow results to stand when
there is flagrant cheating. The UIC allows "evidence"
after the fact to be submitted and disqualification to happen significantly
later.
So many things to take into consideration.
Any help?
Candi
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