scott klinger

Well, if the bike lane is distinguished by a solid
white line, technically "fail to obey a traffic
control device" will work also..You can also contact
the Portland Police Traffic Division to request extra
patrols (stings) in certain areas..Go directly to the
source...
--- Craig Austin wrote:

> I don't know how the law is worded, but Tualatin PD
> will ticket you for driving in the bike lane, even
> for a very short distance to make a right turn. At
> least, they did it to me (written warning, "driving
> in bike lane") on the corner of Boones Ferry and
> McEwen. As a frequent commuter, I can't say I
> disagree with that law, I just wasn't aware of it.
>
> Craig
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org on behalf of david
> baker
> Sent: Tue 5/22/2007 7:38 AM
> To: Quenton Conant; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] bike/road laws
>
>
>
> I live in Bend so this is biased towards having less
> traffic but..
>
> I use that passing method a lot while driving, so I
> would have to come out
> in support of it. Of course one should visually
> confirm the lane is not
> being used at the time, but I think cars should be
> allowed to enter the bike
> lane the same way bikes can enter the car lane. If
> everyone understands that
> there should not be a problem. If by "cut off "you
> mean they nearly hit you
> that is wrong. If you mean that you had to slow down
> because cars were in
> the bike lane, we are all sharing the same road, you
> are traffic so you have
> to wait too. I do not know if there is a law against
> it.
> Those accidents you talk about sound suspiciously
> like darwin's effect at
> work.
>
> Maybe in really bad spots they should put barriers
> or other special methods
> in place.
>
>
>
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Quenton Conant"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:56 AM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] bike/road laws
>
>
> >I have a question. it seemsI get cut off quite a
> few times by cars passing
> >on the right to go aroudn cars turning left. They
> pass into the bike and/or
> >parking lane. sometimes rolling from as far back as
> 6 car lengths. I'm
> >pretty used to it, but it really irritates me. Are
> there any laws that
> >pertain to this type of driving?
> >
> > This not only disrupts the flow of traffic, but
> has caused several
> > accident, some right in front of me, from cars in
> the oncomming lane
> > turning left who don't see these drivers comming
> around.
> >
> > don't get me wrong. I'm all for sharing the road,
> and do it as
> > respectively as possible on all occasions.
> >
> > I remember something similar but contradictory
> while reading the drivers
> > manual years ago.
> >
> > Is the bike lane considered a viable route for an
> automobile?
> >
> >
> > how would one go about requesting "stings" at
> certain intersections? I can
> > think of a dozen where this happens regularly.
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I don't know how the law is worded, but Tualatin PD will ticket you for driving in the bike lane, even for a very short distance to make a right turn. At least, they did it to me (written warning, "driving in bike lane") on the corner of Boones Ferry and McEwen. As a frequent commuter, I can't say I disagree with that law, I just wasn't aware of it.

Craig

________________________________

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org on behalf of david baker
Sent: Tue 5/22/2007 7:38 AM
To: Quenton Conant; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] bike/road laws

I live in Bend so this is biased towards having less traffic but..

I use that passing method a lot while driving, so I would have to come out
in support of it. Of course one should visually confirm the lane is not
being used at the time, but I think cars should be allowed to enter the bike
lane the same way bikes can enter the car lane. If everyone understands that
there should not be a problem. If by "cut off "you mean they nearly hit you
that is wrong. If you mean that you had to slow down because cars were in
the bike lane, we are all sharing the same road, you are traffic so you have
to wait too. I do not know if there is a law against it.
Those accidents you talk about sound suspiciously like darwin's effect at
work.

Maybe in really bad spots they should put barriers or other special methods
in place.

---- Original Message -----
From: "Quenton Conant"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:56 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] bike/road laws

>I have a question. it seemsI get cut off quite a few times by cars passing
>on the right to go aroudn cars turning left. They pass into the bike and/or
>parking lane. sometimes rolling from as far back as 6 car lengths. I'm
>pretty used to it, but it really irritates me. Are there any laws that
>pertain to this type of driving?
>
> This not only disrupts the flow of traffic, but has caused several
> accident, some right in front of me, from cars in the oncomming lane
> turning left who don't see these drivers comming around.
>
> don't get me wrong. I'm all for sharing the road, and do it as
> respectively as possible on all occasions.
>
> I remember something similar but contradictory while reading the drivers
> manual years ago.
>
> Is the bike lane considered a viable route for an automobile?
>
>
> how would one go about requesting "stings" at certain intersections? I can
> think of a dozen where this happens regularly.
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Seth May

This is quite explicitly labeled in the Oregon Drivers manual. Page 39:



"You may not pass on the right if any part of your vehicle will be
off the paved part of the highway or into a bike lane. A vehicle may
not drive in the bicycle lane to pass on the right. Use extra care when
you pass on the right. Other drivers do not expect to be passed on the
right."



We keep a copy of the manual to resolve disputes about what is and
isn't allowed.

Thanks

Seth



Quenton Conant wrote:

I have a question. it seemsI get cut off quite a few times by cars passing on the right to go aroudn cars turning left. They pass into the bike and/or parking lane. sometimes rolling from as far back as 6 car lengths. I'm pretty used to it, but it really irritates me. Are there any laws that pertain to this type of driving? 

This not only disrupts the flow of traffic, but has caused several accident, some right in front of me, from cars in the oncomming lane turning left who don't see these drivers comming around. 

don't get me wrong. I'm all for sharing the road, and do it as respectively as possible on all occasions.

I remember something similar but contradictory while reading the drivers manual years ago. 

Is the bike lane considered a viable route for an automobile?

how would one go about requesting "stings" at certain intersections? I can think of a dozen where this happens regularly. 

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Rick C Johnson

*811.440 When motor vehicles may operate on bicycle lane.* This section
provides exemptions from the prohibitions under ORS 811.435 and 814.210
against operating motor vehicles on bicycle lanes and paths. The
following vehicles are not subject to ORS 811.435 and 814.210 under the
circumstances described:**

(1) A person may operate a moped on a bicycle lane that is
immediately adjacent to the roadway only while the moped is being
exclusively powered by human power.

*(2) A person may operate a motor vehicle upon a bicycle lane when:*

*(a) Making a turn;*

* (b) Entering or leaving an alley, private road or driveway; or*

* (c) Required in the course of official duty.*

(3) An implement of husbandry may momentarily cross into a bicycle
lane to permit other vehicles to overtake and pass the implement of
husbandry.

(4) A person may operate a motorized wheelchair on a bicycle lane
or path.

(5) A person may operate a motor assisted scooter on a bicycle
lane or path.

(6) A person may operate an electric personal assistive mobility
device on a bicycle lane or path. [1983 c.338 §645; 1991 c.417 §1; 2001
c.749 §24; 2003 c.341 §8]

*811.435 Operation of motor vehicle on bicycle trail; exemptions;
penalty.* (1) A person commits the offense of operation of a motor
vehicle on a bicycle trail if the person operates a motor vehicle upon a
bicycle lane or a bicycle path.

(2) Exemptions to this section are provided under ORS 811.440.

(3) This section is not applicable to mopeds. ORS 811.440 and
814.210 control the operation and use of mopeds on bicycle lanes and paths.

(4) The offense described in this section, operation of a motor
vehicle on a bicycle trail, is a Class B traffic violation. [1983 c.338
§643]

*801.155 "Bicycle lane."* "Bicycle lane" means that part of the highway,
adjacent to the roadway, designated by official signs or markings for
use by persons riding bicycles except as otherwise specifically provided
by law. [1983 c.338 §23]

*
811.050 Failure to yield to rider on bicycle lane; penalty*. (1) A
person commits the offense of failure of a motor vehicle operator to
yield to a rider on a bicycle lane if the person is operating a motor
vehicle and the person does not yield the right of way to a person
operating a bicycle, electric assisted bicycle, electric personal
assistive mobility device, moped, motor assisted scooter or motorized
wheelchair upon a bicycle lane.

(2) This section does not require a person operating a moped to
yield the right of way to a bicycle or a motor assisted scooter if the
moped is operated on a bicycle lane in the manner permitted under ORS
811.440.

(3) The offense described in this section, failure of a motor
vehicle operator to yield to a rider on a bicycle lane, is a Class B
traffic violation. [1983 c.338 §698; 1985 c.16 §336; 1991 c.417 §4; 1997
c.400 §8; 2001 c.749 §23; 2003 c.341 §7]

Quenton Conant wrote:

>I have a question. it seemsI get cut off quite a few times by cars passing on the right to go aroudn cars turning left. They pass into the bike and/or parking lane. sometimes rolling from as far back as 6 car lengths. I'm pretty used to it, but it really irritates me. Are there any laws that pertain to this type of driving?
>
>This not only disrupts the flow of traffic, but has caused several accident, some right in front of me, from cars in the oncomming lane turning left who don't see these drivers comming around.
>
>don't get me wrong. I'm all for sharing the road, and do it as respectively as possible on all occasions.
>
>I remember something similar but contradictory while reading the drivers manual years ago.
>
>Is the bike lane considered a viable route for an automobile?
>
>
>how would one go about requesting "stings" at certain intersections? I can think of a dozen where this happens regularly.
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Brian Engelen

Beaverton and Hillsboro Police will ticket you for using the Bike Lane to go
around stopped cars. Also, if you enter a striped turn lane too early.
Also, if you go over the fog line to get around a stopped car.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of david baker
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:39 AM
To: Quenton Conant; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] bike/road laws

I live in Bend so this is biased towards having less traffic but..

I use that passing method a lot while driving, so I would have to come out
in support of it. Of course one should visually confirm the lane is not
being used at the time, but I think cars should be allowed to enter the bike

lane the same way bikes can enter the car lane. If everyone understands that

there should not be a problem. If by "cut off "you mean they nearly hit you
that is wrong. If you mean that you had to slow down because cars were in
the bike lane, we are all sharing the same road, you are traffic so you have

to wait too. I do not know if there is a law against it.
Those accidents you talk about sound suspiciously like darwin's effect at
work.

Maybe in really bad spots they should put barriers or other special methods
in place.

---- Original Message -----
From: "Quenton Conant"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:56 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] bike/road laws

>I have a question. it seemsI get cut off quite a few times by cars passing
>on the right to go aroudn cars turning left. They pass into the bike and/or

>parking lane. sometimes rolling from as far back as 6 car lengths. I'm
>pretty used to it, but it really irritates me. Are there any laws that
>pertain to this type of driving?
>
> This not only disrupts the flow of traffic, but has caused several
> accident, some right in front of me, from cars in the oncomming lane
> turning left who don't see these drivers comming around.
>
> don't get me wrong. I'm all for sharing the road, and do it as
> respectively as possible on all occasions.
>
> I remember something similar but contradictory while reading the drivers
> manual years ago.
>
> Is the bike lane considered a viable route for an automobile?
>
>
> how would one go about requesting "stings" at certain intersections? I can

> think of a dozen where this happens regularly.
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David Auker

It's kind of a dilemma: motor traffic creates a "sweep" effect to clean
the shoulder/bike lane of debris. (Kind of a symbiotic
relationship...they sweep our lanes, and we...hmm, what do we do for
them? Ah, traffic-calming!) Barriers hinder this. We just don't want
the metal monsters there at the same time as the cyclist.

david baker wrote:
> (...) I think cars should be allowed to enter the bike
> lane the same way bikes can enter the car lane. If everyone understands that
> there should not be a problem. If by "cut off "you mean they nearly hit you
> that is wrong. If you mean that you had to slow down because cars were in
> the bike lane, we are all sharing the same road, you are traffic so you have
> to wait too. I do not know if there is a law against it.
> Those accidents you talk about sound suspiciously like darwin's effect at
> work.
>
> Maybe in really bad spots they should put barriers or other special methods
> in place.
>
>
>
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Quenton Conant"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:56 AM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] bike/road laws
>
>
>
>> (...)
>>
>> Is the bike lane considered a viable route for an automobile?
>>
>>
>> how would one go about requesting "stings" at certain intersections? I can
>> think of a dozen where this happens regularly.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

david baker

I live in Bend so this is biased towards having less traffic but..

I use that passing method a lot while driving, so I would have to come out
in support of it. Of course one should visually confirm the lane is not
being used at the time, but I think cars should be allowed to enter the bike
lane the same way bikes can enter the car lane. If everyone understands that
there should not be a problem. If by "cut off "you mean they nearly hit you
that is wrong. If you mean that you had to slow down because cars were in
the bike lane, we are all sharing the same road, you are traffic so you have
to wait too. I do not know if there is a law against it.
Those accidents you talk about sound suspiciously like darwin's effect at
work.

Maybe in really bad spots they should put barriers or other special methods
in place.

---- Original Message -----
From: "Quenton Conant"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:56 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] bike/road laws

>I have a question. it seemsI get cut off quite a few times by cars passing
>on the right to go aroudn cars turning left. They pass into the bike and/or
>parking lane. sometimes rolling from as far back as 6 car lengths. I'm
>pretty used to it, but it really irritates me. Are there any laws that
>pertain to this type of driving?
>
> This not only disrupts the flow of traffic, but has caused several
> accident, some right in front of me, from cars in the oncomming lane
> turning left who don't see these drivers comming around.
>
> don't get me wrong. I'm all for sharing the road, and do it as
> respectively as possible on all occasions.
>
> I remember something similar but contradictory while reading the drivers
> manual years ago.
>
> Is the bike lane considered a viable route for an automobile?
>
>
> how would one go about requesting "stings" at certain intersections? I can
> think of a dozen where this happens regularly.
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Quenton Conant

I have a question. it seemsI get cut off quite a few times by cars passing on the right to go aroudn cars turning left. They pass into the bike and/or parking lane. sometimes rolling from as far back as 6 car lengths. I'm pretty used to it, but it really irritates me. Are there any laws that pertain to this type of driving?

This not only disrupts the flow of traffic, but has caused several accident, some right in front of me, from cars in the oncomming lane turning left who don't see these drivers comming around.

don't get me wrong. I'm all for sharing the road, and do it as respectively as possible on all occasions.

I remember something similar but contradictory while reading the drivers manual years ago.

Is the bike lane considered a viable route for an automobile?

how would one go about requesting "stings" at certain intersections? I can think of a dozen where this happens regularly.