Points Races

Luciano bailey

2007-05-25

Also consider that those events generally have longer formatted races as
well with the minimum points race at 50 laps, many will never have to worry
about races outside OR. I personally have no problem with the evolution of
our hybrid it has grown out of a fews years of trial and error to keep the
flow of races consistent at this unique venue.

>From: "Joseph A. Field"
>To: ,
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Points Races
>Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:15:53 -0700
>
>I would like to try the new rule proposal for one race so we can observe
>its effect on tactics and race flow. Afterwards, we would be better
>informed to decide whether or not to adapt the new rule.
>
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>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
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>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:33 PM
>To: cmurray@obra.org; obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Points Races
>
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>Candi
>
>I think keep the sprints every 5 laps to keep the racing moving and
>interesting, but maybe use the 20 points gained/lost for gaining/losing
>a lap. I also think keep the double in the middle for the same reason.
>
>I know it is a hybrid.
>
>Then if we wanted for districts or AVC we could follow the every 10 laps
>sprint rule so that our bigger races would follow the USAC rules.
>
>If you need someone to propose that rule, please consider this email
>that proposal, but I am of course alway open to suggestions from people
>more reasonable than I.
>
>Thank You,
>
>Mark Ginsberg
>
>Candi Murray wrote:
>
>For years I have been resistant to change the way we run points races at
>Alpenrose. The good old fashion way. Sprints every 5 laps, double points
>in
>the middle and end. People laps up and down
>USA Cycling now sprints every 10 laps and only awards double points at
>the
>end. They give 20 points for lapping the field and 20 points for those
>losing a lap.
>Should I step into the 21st century and start doing it their way?
>C
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Luciano bailey

2007-05-25

No no no the format works great with the every 5 lap sprints and the twenty
points has made the racing paced and exciting.

>From: "Candi Murray"
>Reply-To: cmurray@obra.org
>To:
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] Points Races
>Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:47:28 -0700
>
>For years I have been resistant to change the way we run points races at
>Alpenrose. The good old fashion way. Sprints every 5 laps, double points in
>the middle and end. People laps up and down
>USA Cycling now sprints every 10 laps and only awards double points at the
>end. They give 20 points for lapping the field and 20 points for those
>losing a lap.
>Should I step into the 21st century and start doing it their way?
>C
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Joseph A. Field

2007-05-24

I would like to try the new rule proposal for one race so we can observe
its effect on tactics and race flow. Afterwards, we would be better
informed to decide whether or not to adapt the new rule.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Joseph A. Field
Field Jerger LLP
Oregon National Building
610 SW Alder Street, Ste. 910
Portland, OR 97205
Tel. (503) 228 - 9115
Fax (503) 225- 0276
E mail: joe@fieldjerger.com

Visit us on the web at: www.fieldjerger.com

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Mark J. Ginsberg
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:33 PM
To: cmurray@obra.org; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Points Races

Candi

I think keep the sprints every 5 laps to keep the racing moving and
interesting, but maybe use the 20 points gained/lost for gaining/losing
a lap. I also think keep the double in the middle for the same reason.

I know it is a hybrid.

Then if we wanted for districts or AVC we could follow the every 10 laps
sprint rule so that our bigger races would follow the USAC rules.

If you need someone to propose that rule, please consider this email
that proposal, but I am of course alway open to suggestions from people
more reasonable than I.

Thank You,

Mark Ginsberg

Candi Murray wrote:

For years I have been resistant to change the way we run points races at
Alpenrose. The good old fashion way. Sprints every 5 laps, double points
in
the middle and end. People laps up and down
USA Cycling now sprints every 10 laps and only awards double points at
the
end. They give 20 points for lapping the field and 20 points for those
losing a lap.
Should I step into the 21st century and start doing it their way?
C

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Mark J. Ginsberg

2007-05-24

Candi

I think keep the sprints every 5 laps to keep the racing moving and interesting, but maybe use the 20 points gained/lost for gaining/losing a lap. I also think keep the double in the middle for the same reason.

I know it is a hybrid.

Then if we wanted for districts or AVC we could follow the every 10 laps sprint rule so that our bigger races would follow the USAC rules.

If you need someone to propose that rule, please consider this email that proposal, but I am of course alway open to suggestions from people more reasonable than I.

Thank You,

Mark Ginsberg

Candi Murray wrote: For years I have been resistant to change the way we run points races at
Alpenrose. The good old fashion way. Sprints every 5 laps, double points in
the middle and end. People laps up and down
USA Cycling now sprints every 10 laps and only awards double points at the
end. They give 20 points for lapping the field and 20 points for those
losing a lap.
Should I step into the 21st century and start doing it their way?
C

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Portland, OR 97204
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Candi Murray

2007-05-24

For years I have been resistant to change the way we run points races at
Alpenrose. The good old fashion way. Sprints every 5 laps, double points in
the middle and end. People laps up and down
USA Cycling now sprints every 10 laps and only awards double points at the
end. They give 20 points for lapping the field and 20 points for those
losing a lap.
Should I step into the 21st century and start doing it their way?
C