Karleta Reierson
Oh, we were just getting started.... I thought we were getting some where...
I was having fun...
>From: "Joe Cipale"
>Reply-To: joec@aracnet.com
>To: "Karleta Reierson"
>CC: gary@hawesfinancial.com, Eric.Kytola@kingrs.com, mikebene@gmail.com,
> obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: **** X-spasm **** Re: **** X-spasm **** Re: [OBRA Chat] vino =
>cheater
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:11:54 -0700
>
>Point still missed... that is fine.. I am killing this thread (at least for
>my eyes and fingers).
>
>I have better things to debate than this.
>
>Karleta Reierson wrote:
>
> > Haven't you heard of the movies "Overcoming" and "Road To Paris". They
>talk
> > about tactics, they plan, they train, then they listen to the director
>and
> > team mates when they need to make an attack or a major move. I know...
>You
> > know...
> >
> >
> > >From: "Joe Cipale"
> > >Reply-To: joec@aracnet.com
> > >To: "Karleta Reierson"
> > >CC: gary@hawesfinancial.com, Eric.Kytola@kingrs.com,
>mikebene@gmail.com,
> > > obra@list.obra.org
> > >Subject: Re: **** X-spasm **** Re: [OBRA Chat] vino = cheater
> > >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:56:35 -0700
> > >
> > >Riders have the choice on what they do/dont do.
> > >
> > >Otherwise, you are giving way too much control into the hands of the
> > >director sportifs. The team direcotr can suggest and/or coerce all they
> > >want, but it is the rider's ultimate decision to make.
> > >
> > >Havent you heard of 'personal responsibility'?
> > >
> > >We all have it... and we all need to take it when the situation arises.
> > >
> > >Karleta Reierson wrote:
> > >
> > > > What point exactly? That we all have way to much time on our
>hands.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Joe Cipale"
> > > > >Reply-To: joec@aracnet.com
> > > > >To: "Karleta Reierson"
> > > > >CC: gary@hawesfinancial.com, Eric.Kytola@kingrs.com,
> > >mikebene@gmail.com,
> > > > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] vino = cheater
> > > > >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:50:19 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >Wow... someone is missing the point here altogether.
> > > > >
> > > > >Time to ride the bike...
> > > > >
> > > > >Karleta Reierson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Are you guys all on crack out there? Seriously do some research
> > >before
> > > > >you
> > > > > > write into this. The directors tell the racers what to do, and
>the
> > > > >racers
> > > > > > do what the directors tell them to do. They put in a lot of
>extra
> > >junk
> > > > > > miles the first week. Most of their heart rates wern't even
>over
> > >130.
> > > > >Come
> > > > > > on you guys you can save a lot of energy drafting and waiting to
> > >attack
> > > > >when
> > > > > > you need to. That is exactly what Contrador did. I think they
>are
> > >all
> > > > > > amazing no matter what they are doing on the side it really
>doesn't
> > > > >matter.
> > > > > > They are all amazing to make it through a whole three weeks!
> > > > > > Karleta
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Malcolm, Gary"
> > > > > > >To: Eric Kytola , Mike Bene
> > > > > > >,obra@list.obra.org
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] vino = cheater
> > > > > > >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:23:56 -0700
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >E,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Dang it. I was LOVING this tour!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Then four sketchy Rasmussen training disappearances make the
>press,
> > >My
> > > > > > >beloved Vino mixes up blood bags (don't they label those
>things?),
> > >and
> > > > >now
> > > > > > >I'm thinking, "Why is Contador SOOOO much better than anyone
>else?"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Like the French riders have been saying all along: Les Deux
> > >Vitesses -
> > > > >"The
> > > > > > >Two Speeds" ... those who dope - and those who do not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I'm beginning to think they aren't just whiners. After
>confirmation
> > >ban
> > > > > > >them
> > > > > > >all, and forever.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Gary Malcolm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _____
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: Eric Kytola [mailto:Eric.Kytola@kingrs.com]
> > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:21 AM
> > > > > > >To: Mike Bene; obra@list.obra.org
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] vino = cheater
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >sad, but who cares?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >let's talk about how much of a stud Alberto Contador is!!! that
> > >guy's
> > > > > > >attack
> > > > > > >on the climbs is the best thing i have ever seen in the tour.
>the
> > > > >best!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _____
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> > >[mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > > > > > >Behalf Of Mike Bene
> > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:43 AM
> > > > > > >To: obra@list.obra.org
> > > > > > >Subject: [OBRA Chat] vino = cheater
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >news>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/news/?id=/news/2007/jul07/jul25n
> > > > > > >ews
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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