Friendly Reminder

Tony Pereira

2007-11-05

Try giving the glass a final buffing with newspaper. Doesn't leave lint
behind and gets it extra clean. If you must drive, keep those windows
clean!

-Tony

Pereira Cycles
Portland, Oregon, USA
www.pereiracycles.com
503.333.5043

Phreadi wrote:
> typically using one more dry paper towel rubbed all over whatever
> glass surface you've just cleaned will remove any remaining streaks.
>
> On 11/5/07, *Long, Steve * > wrote:
>
> I hear tell that DSU Peterbuild & GMC on Swan Island carries GM
> Glass Cleaner too.
> I've never used the Invisaglass but have been using GM Glass
> Cleaner for yearssssss......
>
> Okay, enough product pushing for me today... :)
>
> g
>


Rick Johnson

2007-11-05

You really just need a new windshield. All the glare is from the pits
in the glass. There is no cure.

I know it's a tough nut to crack - in Bend we go through this a lot -
but just do what has to be done. Try to look at it this way, it's a lot
cheaper than wrecking your car. Or worse yet injuring someone.



Some insurance companies realize this too, you may look into whether
yours offers any incentives.



Rick





Devin Flynn wrote:

My windshield has lots of little tiny chips from highway
driving in sandy areas.  Any ideas for lessening the glare that results
from them.  At sundown and dawn it is pretty bad.  But I don't want to
buy a new windshield.  Cleaning the window doesn't help that much with
this problem. 



Erik Voldengen <erikv@erikv.com> wrote:
What
should you use to clean the inside of your windshield?  I've tried
windex, but it didn't work.  Very frustrating.  I'm about ready to try
kerosene.



-Erik




On 11/5/07, Rick C Johnson <RCJohnson1@attglobal.net>
wrote:

As
we are now officially into the time of year that the sun is often low

on the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to remind everyone to

clean your car windshield - particularly the inside.



How often have you heard that a collusion with a cyclist was because
the

driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my eyes"?



What many people overlook is that the material that almost every

dashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a plasticizer

<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer
>) reacts to the
sunlight and

heat of summer. This process (called "offgassing") produces a film on

the interior of the windshield reducing visibility. Because it is

uniform and develops slowly the effect is not readily apparent to many

people. But it will significantly affect your vision in low angle

sunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming headlights.



So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your family and friends.

The life you save could be your own.



Rick

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Evan Plews

2007-11-05

Most insurance companies/policies will allow one windshield replacement per year--check with yours. Reason: so you don't have an accident and kill yourself or somone else. At minimum any accident is going to cost the ins. much more than a windshield. Just replace it!

Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:43:28 -0800From: orbiker71@yahoo.comTo: Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Friendly ReminderMy windshield has lots of little tiny chips from highway driving in sandy areas. Any ideas for lessening the glare that results from them. At sundown and dawn it is pretty bad. But I don't want to buy a new windshield. Cleaning the window doesn't help that much with this problem. Erik Voldengen wrote:
What should you use to clean the inside of your windshield? I've tried windex, but it didn't work. Very frustrating. I'm about ready to try kerosene.-Erik
On 11/5/07, Rick C Johnson wrote:
As we are now officially into the time of year that the sun is often lowon the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to remind everyone toclean your car windshield - particularly the inside.How often have you heard that a collusion with a cyclist was because the driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my eyes"?What many people overlook is that the material that almost everydashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a plasticizer< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer>) reacts to the sunlight andheat of summer. This process (called "offgassing") produces a film onthe interior of the windshield reducing visibility. Because it is uniform and develops slowly the effect is not readily apparent to manypeople. But it will significantly affect your vision in low anglesunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming headlights.So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your family and friends. The life you save could be your own.Rick_______________________________________________OBRA mailing listobra@list.obra.orghttp://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obraUnsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org_______________________________________________OBRA mailing listobra@list.obra.orghttp://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obraUnsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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jeff edes

2007-11-05

Coming from an aviation background I learned a long
time ago that good old Lemon Pledge worked great on
plexiglass windscreens. I know it isn't plexiglass but
I also use it on my vehicles... works great! Inside
and out.

Jeff
--- Devin Flynn wrote:

> My windshield has lots of little tiny chips from
> highway driving in sandy areas. Any ideas for
> lessening the glare that results from them. At
> sundown and dawn it is pretty bad. But I don't want
> to buy a new windshield. Cleaning the window
> doesn't help that much with this problem.
>
> Erik Voldengen wrote: What should
> you use to clean the inside of your windshield?
> I've tried windex, but it didn't work. Very
> frustrating. I'm about ready to try kerosene.
>
> -Erik
>
> On 11/5/07, Rick C Johnson
> wrote: As we are now
> officially into the time of year that the sun is
> often low
> on the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to
> remind everyone to
> clean your car windshield - particularly the inside.
>
> How often have you heard that a collusion with a
> cyclist was because the
> driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my
> eyes"?
>
> What many people overlook is that the material that
> almost every
> dashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a
> plasticizer
> < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer>) reacts
> to the sunlight and
> heat of summer. This process (called "offgassing")
> produces a film on
> the interior of the windshield reducing visibility.
> Because it is
> uniform and develops slowly the effect is not
> readily apparent to many
> people. But it will significantly affect your vision
> in low angle
> sunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming
> headlights.
>
> So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your
> family and friends.
> The life you save could be your own.
>
> Rick
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Ike Kendrick

2007-11-05

Typically the blurring on the inside of the windshields is caused be the
toxic out gassing of the materials in the cabin of the car. That is why
normal glass cleaners will not work. I have had success with Clorox
Cleanup which is not quite as toxic.
-ike kendrick

Rick Johnson wrote:
> I use a quality multi-purpose cleaner such as Glass Plus. The cheaper
> glass cleaners are only ammonia and water, which doesn't work very well.
> Then I follow it up with a cleaning/treatment of RainX anti-fog. Not
> only will your windshield be sparkling clean but it will stay clean
> longer and not fog or frost as easily.
>
> Rick
>
>
> Erik Voldengen wrote:
>> What should you use to clean the inside of your windshield? I've
>> tried windex, but it didn't work. Very frustrating. I'm about ready
>> to try kerosene.
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On 11/5/07, *Rick C Johnson* > > wrote:
>>
>> As we are now officially into the time of year that the sun is
>> often low
>> on the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to remind everyone to
>> clean your car windshield - particularly the inside.
>>
>> How often have you heard that a collusion with a cyclist was
>> because the
>> driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my eyes"?
>>
>> What many people overlook is that the material that almost every
>> dashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a plasticizer
>> < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer>) reacts to the
>> sunlight and
>> heat of summer. This process (called "offgassing") produces a film on
>> the interior of the windshield reducing visibility. Because it is
>> uniform and develops slowly the effect is not readily apparent to
>> many
>> people. But it will significantly affect your vision in low angle
>> sunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming headlights.
>>
>> So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your family and
>> friends.
>> The life you save could be your own.
>>
>> Rick
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Devin Flynn

2007-11-05

My windshield has lots of little tiny chips from highway driving in sandy areas. Any ideas for lessening the glare that results from them. At sundown and dawn it is pretty bad. But I don't want to buy a new windshield. Cleaning the window doesn't help that much with this problem.

Erik Voldengen wrote: What should you use to clean the inside of your windshield? I've tried windex, but it didn't work. Very frustrating. I'm about ready to try kerosene.

-Erik

On 11/5/07, Rick C Johnson wrote: As we are now officially into the time of year that the sun is often low
on the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to remind everyone to
clean your car windshield - particularly the inside.

How often have you heard that a collusion with a cyclist was because the
driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my eyes"?

What many people overlook is that the material that almost every
dashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a plasticizer
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer>) reacts to the sunlight and
heat of summer. This process (called "offgassing") produces a film on
the interior of the windshield reducing visibility. Because it is
uniform and develops slowly the effect is not readily apparent to many
people. But it will significantly affect your vision in low angle
sunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming headlights.

So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your family and friends.
The life you save could be your own.

Rick
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Rick Johnson

2007-11-05


I use a quality multi-purpose cleaner such as Glass Plus. The cheaper
glass cleaners are only ammonia and water, which doesn't work very
well.

Then I follow it up with a cleaning/treatment of RainX anti-fog. Not
only will your windshield be sparkling clean but it will stay clean
longer and not fog or frost as easily.



Rick





Erik Voldengen wrote:

What should you use to clean the inside of your
windshield?  I've tried windex, but it didn't work.  Very frustrating. 
I'm about ready to try kerosene.



-Erik




On 11/5/07, Rick C Johnson <RCJohnson1@attglobal.net>
wrote:

As
we are now officially into the time of year that the sun is often low

on the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to remind everyone to

clean your car windshield - particularly the inside.



How often have you heard that a collusion with a cyclist was because
the


driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my eyes"?



What many people overlook is that the material that almost every

dashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a plasticizer

<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer
>) reacts to the
sunlight and

heat of summer. This process (called "offgassing") produces a film on

the interior of the windshield reducing visibility. Because it is


uniform and develops slowly the effect is not readily apparent to many

people. But it will significantly affect your vision in low angle

sunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming headlights.



So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your family and friends.


The life you save could be your own.



Rick

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Phreadi

2007-11-05

typically using one more dry paper towel rubbed all over whatever glass
surface you've just cleaned will remove any remaining streaks.

On 11/5/07, Long, Steve wrote:
>
> I hear tell that DSU Peterbuild & GMC on Swan Island carries GM Glass
> Cleaner too.
> I've never used the Invisaglass but have been using GM Glass Cleaner for
> yearssssss......
>
> Okay, enough product pushing for me today... :)
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Francis Bruening
> *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 10:22 AM
> *To:* Erik Voldengen
> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Friendly Reminder
>
> Don't try kerosene, it doesn't work well... :-)
>
> Go to Mike's Autoparts (corner of Cornell & Salzman), buy something called
> Invisaglass.
>
> Best window cleaner I've found for cars...
>
> Regards,
>
> btw - Erik, I've got 46cm belllaps waiting for you, but they don't fit in
> my jersey pocket to ride down to your new place... :-)
>
> On 11/5/07, Erik Voldengen wrote:
> >
> > What should you use to clean the inside of your windshield? I've tried
> > windex, but it didn't work. Very frustrating. I'm about ready to try
> > kerosene.
> >
> > -Erik
> >
> > On 11/5/07, Rick C Johnson wrote:
> > >
> > > As we are now officially into the time of year that the sun is often
> > > low
> > > on the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to remind everyone to
> > > clean your car windshield - particularly the inside.
> > >
> > > How often have you heard that a collusion with a cyclist was because
> > > the
> > > driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my eyes"?
> > >
> > > What many people overlook is that the material that almost every
> > > dashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a plasticizer
> > > < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer>) reacts to the sunlight
> > > and
> > > heat of summer. This process (called "offgassing") produces a film on
> > > the interior of the windshield reducing visibility. Because it is
> > > uniform and develops slowly the effect is not readily apparent to many
> > > people. But it will significantly affect your vision in low angle
> > > sunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming headlights.
> > >
> > > So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your family and friends.
> > >
> > > The life you save could be your own.
> > >
> > > Rick
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Long, Steve

2007-11-05

I hear tell that DSU Peterbuild & GMC on Swan Island carries GM Glass
Cleaner too.
I've never used the Invisaglass but have been using GM Glass Cleaner for
yearssssss......

Okay, enough product pushing for me today... :)

________________________________

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Francis Bruening
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:22 AM
To: Erik Voldengen
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Friendly Reminder

Don't try kerosene, it doesn't work well... :-)

Go to Mike's Autoparts (corner of Cornell & Salzman), buy something
called Invisaglass.

Best window cleaner I've found for cars...

Regards,

btw - Erik, I've got 46cm belllaps waiting for you, but they don't fit
in my jersey pocket to ride down to your new place... :-)

On 11/5/07, Erik Voldengen wrote:

What should you use to clean the inside of your windshield?
I've tried windex, but it didn't work. Very frustrating. I'm about
ready to try kerosene.

-Erik



On 11/5/07, Rick C Johnson wrote:

As we are now officially into the time of year that the
sun is often low
on the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to
remind everyone to
clean your car windshield - particularly the inside.

How often have you heard that a collusion with a cyclist
was because the
driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my
eyes"?

What many people overlook is that the material that
almost every
dashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a plasticizer
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer
>) reacts to the sunlight and
heat of summer. This process (called "offgassing")
produces a film on
the interior of the windshield reducing visibility.
Because it is
uniform and develops slowly the effect is not readily
apparent to many
people. But it will significantly affect your vision in
low angle
sunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming
headlights.

So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your
family and friends.
The life you save could be your own.

Rick
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Francis Bruening

2007-11-05

Don't try kerosene, it doesn't work well... :-)

Go to Mike's Autoparts (corner of Cornell & Salzman), buy something called
Invisaglass.

Best window cleaner I've found for cars...

Regards,

btw - Erik, I've got 46cm belllaps waiting for you, but they don't fit in
my jersey pocket to ride down to your new place... :-)

On 11/5/07, Erik Voldengen wrote:
>
> What should you use to clean the inside of your windshield? I've tried
> windex, but it didn't work. Very frustrating. I'm about ready to try
> kerosene.
>
> -Erik
>
> On 11/5/07, Rick C Johnson wrote:
> >
> > As we are now officially into the time of year that the sun is often low
> > on the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to remind everyone to
> > clean your car windshield - particularly the inside.
> >
> > How often have you heard that a collusion with a cyclist was because the
> >
> > driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my eyes"?
> >
> > What many people overlook is that the material that almost every
> > dashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a plasticizer
> > < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer>) reacts to the sunlight and
> > heat of summer. This process (called "offgassing") produces a film on
> > the interior of the windshield reducing visibility. Because it is
> > uniform and develops slowly the effect is not readily apparent to many
> > people. But it will significantly affect your vision in low angle
> > sunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming headlights.
> >
> > So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your family and friends.
> > The life you save could be your own.
> >
> > Rick
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Long, Steve

2007-11-05

Okay, I really hate to do this, endorse a product, but, GM glass
cleaner, you can get it in the part department of a GM car dealership,
will take care of this chore wonderfully. It's five bucks but it cleans
that stuff off really well. I don't know what they put in it, (kerosene
maybe???), but try it.

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik Voldengen
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:16 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Friendly Reminder

What should you use to clean the inside of your windshield? I've tried
windex, but it didn't work. Very frustrating. I'm about ready to try
kerosene.

-Erik

On 11/5/07, Rick C Johnson wrote:

As we are now officially into the time of year that the sun is
often low
on the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to remind
everyone to
clean your car windshield - particularly the inside.

How often have you heard that a collusion with a cyclist was
because the
driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my eyes"?

What many people overlook is that the material that almost every
dashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a plasticizer
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer
>) reacts to the sunlight and
heat of summer. This process (called "offgassing") produces a
film on
the interior of the windshield reducing visibility. Because it
is
uniform and develops slowly the effect is not readily apparent
to many
people. But it will significantly affect your vision in low
angle
sunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming headlights.

So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your family and
friends.
The life you save could be your own.

Rick
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Erik Voldengen

2007-11-05

What should you use to clean the inside of your windshield? I've tried
windex, but it didn't work. Very frustrating. I'm about ready to try
kerosene.

-Erik

On 11/5/07, Rick C Johnson wrote:
>
> As we are now officially into the time of year that the sun is often low
> on the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to remind everyone to
> clean your car windshield - particularly the inside.
>
> How often have you heard that a collusion with a cyclist was because the
> driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my eyes"?
>
> What many people overlook is that the material that almost every
> dashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a plasticizer
> ) reacts to the sunlight and
> heat of summer. This process (called "offgassing") produces a film on
> the interior of the windshield reducing visibility. Because it is
> uniform and develops slowly the effect is not readily apparent to many
> people. But it will significantly affect your vision in low angle
> sunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming headlights.
>
> So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your family and friends.
> The life you save could be your own.
>
> Rick
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Rick C Johnson

2007-11-05

As we are now officially into the time of year that the sun is often low
on the horizon and evening comes early I'd like to remind everyone to
clean your car windshield - particularly the inside.

How often have you heard that a collusion with a cyclist was because the
driver didn't see them? Or that "the sun got in my eyes"?

What many people overlook is that the material that almost every
dashboard is made out of (PVC, softened by a plasticizer
) reacts to the sunlight and
heat of summer. This process (called "offgassing") produces a film on
the interior of the windshield reducing visibility. Because it is
uniform and develops slowly the effect is not readily apparent to many
people. But it will significantly affect your vision in low angle
sunlight and it also increases the glare of oncoming headlights.

So, clean your windshield. Pass this along to your family and friends.
The life you save could be your own.

Rick