Robert Anderson
I once hacked paypal. Come out to a Team-O ride and I'll tell you the story.
-Rob A
On 1/14/08, George de Randich wrote:
>
> Report this to the Security Department of your telephone company!
> George de Randich,
> Ex- Private Investigator!
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Randy Dreiling
> *To:* markjginsberg@yahoo.com ; Tom Perilloux ; G
> Magnus
> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org ; Mike Hanada
> *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2008 10:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] fraudulent activity on EBAY
>
>
> Some one used our phone number for an ebay fraud. I got some ticked off
> calls from people wanting the $1,500 they paid for a rare fishing reel, one
> called like 25 times. The phone was in my wives name and he tracked her
> life and rambled off everywhere she had lived while threating to drive from
> S. Cali to Oakridge to get his money. After about 45 minutes on the phone
> he finally believed me that it was not us. Real screwed up deal.
>
> Randy Dreiling
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark J. Ginsberg
> To: Tom Perilloux ; G Magnus
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org; Mike Hanada
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:38:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] fraudulent activity on EBAY
>
> not to mention my two stolen bikes that surfaced on ebay!
>
> Mark Ginsberg
>
> *Tom Perilloux * wrote:
>
> This has been going on for years and years and Ebay hasn't done much to
> prevent it (not sure they can do much). I bid on a bike back in 2000 very
> similar to your situation.
>
> If you are going to buy an expensive item from ebay, better do the due
> diligence or you might be in for a surprise. One thing I've found that
> works well is asking if you can test ride the bike no matter where the
> seller lives. If it's not possible, obviously a fraud. Also always paypal
> only, paypal has its problems, but any other way (there are some other
> payment providers to use also - escrow.com for example) and you are asking
> for problems.
>
> 2008/1/14 G Magnus :
>
> > Hey OBRA land-
> >
> > I was looking at TT bikes on ebay, saw one that looked nice really good
> > price. As I was looking at the body of the of the posting the alledged
> > seller instructs the potential buyer to contact them via an email account
> > not via ebay. I was suspicious of this so I contacted the listing name via
> > ebay and found that the auction was not his, nor had he authorized it or
> > anything. I did some more looking and found that apparently frauders have
> > found a way of accessing peoples ebay accounts and creating fraudulent
> > auctions. The fraud will work if the buyer contacts the seller seperate of
> > ebay and arranges for payment. Make sure that if you are buying on ebay
> > only contact the seller through ebay itself not via a provided email
> > address. I have sent am email to ebay about this and I know that the person
> > whose account was used has as well. Here are the two ebay listings I have
> > seen so for clarification. Be safe out there and be cautious of potential
> > frauds.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/TT-Triathlon-Cervelo-P3-Carbon-COMPLETE-BIKE_W0QQitemZ260201091337QQihZ016QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBTOX:IT&item=140198606324&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI
> >
> >
> > Gregg Magnus
> >
> >
> > Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista(R) + Windows Live. Start
> > now!
> >
> >
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