MTB in Summer

Anthony Cree

2008-01-30

The pedalfest went away primarily because my brother and I moved out of the
area. It came back for two years after that when Chris Sandmel picked it
up, but then he moved as well. I think the first two years were both in
Sept, and turnouts were acceptable. There are actually even more trails in
the Mill City area now, but hardly anyone mtn biking them. Mtn bike use
would be great to even out the horse destruction.

Hoodoo was great, one of my favorite places. The original shredtopia on
flat mtn might be the best mtn bike course ever.

On Jan 29, 2008 12:40 PM, Chris Brandt wrote:

> I made a list of some of my favorite former Oregon MTB events that no
> longer exist. Note, these were all held between June 1 and
> mid-September. Interestingly, these were my favorite because the
> weather was nice! Was it because of the weather, or my easily garnered
> successes due to lack of competitors. Did they all burn out? Or was I
> just faster.
>
> Euphoria Ridge Rumble (Myrtle Point)
> Mt. Ashland Rendezvous (Ashland)
> Black Forest Rally (Hoodoo)
> Shredtopia (Corvallis/Starker)
> Flying M Ranch (Yamhill)
> Klamath Heat (Klamath Falls)
> Dustslinger (Bend)
> Gorge Games (Post Canyon Hood River)
> Santiam Pedalfest
> Oakridge Fat Tire Festival
>
> I've always wondered, in all my years racing MTB in Oregon, why there
> are so many early season races and why so few later ones. I know I am
> not alone here, and I share many of the same opinions as Evan Plews.
> (Link: http://tinyurl.com/33ejzq ) I could never understand why
> people chose to train and race when the weather is the worst, and the
> daylight is of short supply. Yes, in order to be successful at
> something, you have to put a lot of time and energy into it, and that
> isn't always pleasant. Starting to train in those cold/wet months is
> the correct time to do it, in order to be on peak form for those early
> races. But, if the races were later, you could apply that same exact
> training plan to a slightly later time frame and, more than likely,
> find more pleasure in doing it! It really IS miserable to try to put
> your long easy base miles in when it's dark and raining after work or
> on the trainer. Not if you live in Southern California, but in Oregon,
> yes.
>
> You don't have to stop racing mid summer to prepare for cyclocross.
> Maybe a couple light weeks as a break is nice. It doesn't require that
> much more specific training than necessary for other types of racing.
> Only some running, and shorter but harder workouts to mimic the nature
> of those sub-1 hour events. But, even still, if you start too early
> for CX, you'll end up w/ TOO MUCH intensity in your legs and become
> frazzled and burnt before CX season is over.
>
> Now that CX has become so popular, more and more racers are needing a
> break from the intensity of racing for 10-14 weekends straight,
> sometimes twice a wknd. It seems to me now that it makes even MORE
> sense to delay the start of spring/summer events. Especially as they
> start to consider extending CX into January. !?!? If not, will those
> early season promoters start to see diminished participation?
>
> Maybe a delay isn't the sole solution either. Maybe it is simply a
> matter of having no more than 2-3 weeks in a row, before a week or two
> off. Seems to me that would keep folks fresher and eager to race, yet
> also encourage continued recreational riding on the "free weekends"…
> ideally group rides that include newer/younger racers to learn the
> ropes, build friendships, and gain experience before jumping into an
> "epic muddy death march" out in the middle of nowhere. As an elite
> racer with a full time job, it is difficult to make the time to
> include new folks when I'm racing EVERY weekend!
>
> Looking forward to racing the MTB this year. Thanks again to all the
> promoters that make this happen, regardless of when you hold your
> race. Without you, we'd still be a bunch of complainers, only w/ fewer
> races to attend.
>
> Chris Brandt
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Randy Dreiling

2008-01-29

Yeah
My friend got jaridia(sp???) from that race.
That was a mud fest.
It was a really place.

There was talk about an endurance race there in the Summer at one point, by a fellow nameless for now OBRA member that just posted earlier...I'll let him address that if he wants.

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: "Todd.Dye@CH2M.com"
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:29:16 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] MTB in Summer

There was Big K (Elkton)

Though that was a spring race. I remember one of the last years was an
absolute downpour slopfest through sheep pasture. Had to ride with your
mouth shut on that course.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Dreiling
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:56 PM
To: Chris Brandt; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] MTB in Summer

WOW
I forgot 1/2 of those races, so between me and Chris's list that is over
15 races that are no longer around.

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: Chris Brandt
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:40:41 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] MTB in Summer

I made a list of some of my favorite former Oregon MTB events that no
longer exist. Note, these were all held between June 1 and
mid-September. Interestingly, these were my favorite because the weather
was nice! Was it because of the weather, or my easily garnered successes
due to lack of competitors. Did they all burn out? Or was I just faster.

Euphoria Ridge Rumble (Myrtle Point)
Mt. Ashland Rendezvous (Ashland)
Black Forest Rally (Hoodoo)
Shredtopia (Corvallis/Starker)
Flying M Ranch (Yamhill)
Klamath Heat (Klamath Falls)
Dustslinger (Bend)
Gorge Games (Post Canyon Hood River)
Santiam Pedalfest
Oakridge Fat Tire Festival

I've always wondered, in all my years racing MTB in Oregon, why there
are so many early season races and why so few later ones. I know I am
not alone here, and I share many of the same opinions as Evan Plews.
(Link: http://tinyurl.com/33ejzq ) I could never understand why people
chose to train and race when the weather is the worst, and the daylight
is of short supply. Yes, in order to be successful at something, you
have to put a lot of time and energy into it, and that isn't always
pleasant. Starting to train in those cold/wet months is the correct time
to do it, in order to be on peak form for those early races. But, if the
races were later, you could apply that same exact training plan to a
slightly later time frame and, more than likely, find more pleasure in
doing it! It really IS miserable to try to put your long easy base miles
in when it's dark and raining after work or on the trainer. Not if you
live in Southern California, but in Oregon, yes.

You don't have to stop racing mid summer to prepare for cyclocross.
Maybe a couple light weeks as a break is nice. It doesn't require that
much more specific training than necessary for other types of racing.
Only some running, and shorter but harder workouts to mimic the nature
of those sub-1 hour events. But, even still, if you start too early for
CX, you'll end up w/ TOO MUCH intensity in your legs and become frazzled
and burnt before CX season is over.

Now that CX has become so popular, more and more racers are needing a
break from the intensity of racing for 10-14 weekends straight,
sometimes twice a wknd. It seems to me now that it makes even MORE sense
to delay the start of spring/summer events. Especially as they start to
consider extending CX into January. !?!? If not, will those early season
promoters start to see diminished participation?

Maybe a delay isn't the sole solution either. Maybe it is simply a
matter of having no more than 2-3 weeks in a row, before a week or two
off. Seems to me that would keep folks fresher and eager to race, yet
also encourage continued recreational riding on the "free weekends"...
ideally group rides that include newer/younger racers to learn the
ropes, build friendships, and gain experience before jumping into an
"epic muddy death march" out in the middle of nowhere. As an elite racer
with a full time job, it is difficult to make the time to include new
folks when I'm racing EVERY weekend!

Looking forward to racing the MTB this year. Thanks again to all the
promoters that make this happen, regardless of when you hold your race.
Without you, we'd still be a bunch of complainers, only w/ fewer races
to attend.

Chris Brandt
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Todd.Dye@CH2M.com

2008-01-29

There was Big K (Elkton)

Though that was a spring race. I remember one of the last years was an
absolute downpour slopfest through sheep pasture. Had to ride with your
mouth shut on that course.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Dreiling
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:56 PM
To: Chris Brandt; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] MTB in Summer

WOW
I forgot 1/2 of those races, so between me and Chris's list that is over
15 races that are no longer around.

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: Chris Brandt
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:40:41 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] MTB in Summer

I made a list of some of my favorite former Oregon MTB events that no
longer exist. Note, these were all held between June 1 and
mid-September. Interestingly, these were my favorite because the weather
was nice! Was it because of the weather, or my easily garnered successes
due to lack of competitors. Did they all burn out? Or was I just faster.

Euphoria Ridge Rumble (Myrtle Point)
Mt. Ashland Rendezvous (Ashland)
Black Forest Rally (Hoodoo)
Shredtopia (Corvallis/Starker)
Flying M Ranch (Yamhill)
Klamath Heat (Klamath Falls)
Dustslinger (Bend)
Gorge Games (Post Canyon Hood River)
Santiam Pedalfest
Oakridge Fat Tire Festival

I've always wondered, in all my years racing MTB in Oregon, why there
are so many early season races and why so few later ones. I know I am
not alone here, and I share many of the same opinions as Evan Plews.
(Link: http://tinyurl.com/33ejzq ) I could never understand why people
chose to train and race when the weather is the worst, and the daylight
is of short supply. Yes, in order to be successful at something, you
have to put a lot of time and energy into it, and that isn't always
pleasant. Starting to train in those cold/wet months is the correct time
to do it, in order to be on peak form for those early races. But, if the
races were later, you could apply that same exact training plan to a
slightly later time frame and, more than likely, find more pleasure in
doing it! It really IS miserable to try to put your long easy base miles
in when it's dark and raining after work or on the trainer. Not if you
live in Southern California, but in Oregon, yes.

You don't have to stop racing mid summer to prepare for cyclocross.
Maybe a couple light weeks as a break is nice. It doesn't require that
much more specific training than necessary for other types of racing.
Only some running, and shorter but harder workouts to mimic the nature
of those sub-1 hour events. But, even still, if you start too early for
CX, you'll end up w/ TOO MUCH intensity in your legs and become frazzled
and burnt before CX season is over.

Now that CX has become so popular, more and more racers are needing a
break from the intensity of racing for 10-14 weekends straight,
sometimes twice a wknd. It seems to me now that it makes even MORE sense
to delay the start of spring/summer events. Especially as they start to
consider extending CX into January. !?!? If not, will those early season
promoters start to see diminished participation?

Maybe a delay isn't the sole solution either. Maybe it is simply a
matter of having no more than 2-3 weeks in a row, before a week or two
off. Seems to me that would keep folks fresher and eager to race, yet
also encourage continued recreational riding on the "free weekends"...
ideally group rides that include newer/younger racers to learn the
ropes, build friendships, and gain experience before jumping into an
"epic muddy death march" out in the middle of nowhere. As an elite racer
with a full time job, it is difficult to make the time to include new
folks when I'm racing EVERY weekend!

Looking forward to racing the MTB this year. Thanks again to all the
promoters that make this happen, regardless of when you hold your race.
Without you, we'd still be a bunch of complainers, only w/ fewer races
to attend.

Chris Brandt
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Randy Dreiling

2008-01-29

WOW
I forgot 1/2 of those races, so between me and Chris's list that is over 15 races that are no longer around.

Randy Dreiling

----- Original Message ----
From: Chris Brandt
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:40:41 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] MTB in Summer

I made a list of some of my favorite former Oregon MTB events that no
longer exist. Note, these were all held between June 1 and
mid-September. Interestingly, these were my favorite because the
weather was nice! Was it because of the weather, or my easily garnered
successes due to lack of competitors. Did they all burn out? Or was I
just faster.

Euphoria Ridge Rumble (Myrtle Point)
Mt. Ashland Rendezvous (Ashland)
Black Forest Rally (Hoodoo)
Shredtopia (Corvallis/Starker)
Flying M Ranch (Yamhill)
Klamath Heat (Klamath Falls)
Dustslinger (Bend)
Gorge Games (Post Canyon Hood River)
Santiam Pedalfest
Oakridge Fat Tire Festival

I've always wondered, in all my years racing MTB in Oregon, why there
are so many early season races and why so few later ones. I know I am
not alone here, and I share many of the same opinions as Evan Plews.
(Link: http://tinyurl.com/33ejzq ) I could never understand why
people chose to train and race when the weather is the worst, and the
daylight is of short supply. Yes, in order to be successful at
something, you have to put a lot of time and energy into it, and that
isn't always pleasant. Starting to train in those cold/wet months is
the correct time to do it, in order to be on peak form for those early
races. But, if the races were later, you could apply that same exact
training plan to a slightly later time frame and, more than likely,
find more pleasure in doing it! It really IS miserable to try to put
your long easy base miles in when it's dark and raining after work or
on the trainer. Not if you live in Southern California, but in Oregon,
yes.

You don't have to stop racing mid summer to prepare for cyclocross.
Maybe a couple light weeks as a break is nice. It doesn't require that
much more specific training than necessary for other types of racing.
Only some running, and shorter but harder workouts to mimic the nature
of those sub-1 hour events. But, even still, if you start too early
for CX, you'll end up w/ TOO MUCH intensity in your legs and become
frazzled and burnt before CX season is over.

Now that CX has become so popular, more and more racers are needing a
break from the intensity of racing for 10-14 weekends straight,
sometimes twice a wknd. It seems to me now that it makes even MORE
sense to delay the start of spring/summer events. Especially as they
start to consider extending CX into January. !?!? If not, will those
early season promoters start to see diminished participation?

Maybe a delay isn't the sole solution either. Maybe it is simply a
matter of having no more than 2-3 weeks in a row, before a week or two
off. Seems to me that would keep folks fresher and eager to race, yet
also encourage continued recreational riding on the "free weekends"…
ideally group rides that include newer/younger racers to learn the
ropes, build friendships, and gain experience before jumping into an
"epic muddy death march" out in the middle of nowhere. As an elite
racer with a full time job, it is difficult to make the time to
include new folks when I'm racing EVERY weekend!

Looking forward to racing the MTB this year. Thanks again to all the
promoters that make this happen, regardless of when you hold your
race. Without you, we'd still be a bunch of complainers, only w/ fewer
races to attend.

Chris Brandt
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Chris Brandt

2008-01-29

I made a list of some of my favorite former Oregon MTB events that no
longer exist. Note, these were all held between June 1 and
mid-September. Interestingly, these were my favorite because the
weather was nice! Was it because of the weather, or my easily garnered
successes due to lack of competitors. Did they all burn out? Or was I
just faster.

Euphoria Ridge Rumble (Myrtle Point)
Mt. Ashland Rendezvous (Ashland)
Black Forest Rally (Hoodoo)
Shredtopia (Corvallis/Starker)
Flying M Ranch (Yamhill)
Klamath Heat (Klamath Falls)
Dustslinger (Bend)
Gorge Games (Post Canyon Hood River)
Santiam Pedalfest
Oakridge Fat Tire Festival

I've always wondered, in all my years racing MTB in Oregon, why there
are so many early season races and why so few later ones. I know I am
not alone here, and I share many of the same opinions as Evan Plews.
(Link: http://tinyurl.com/33ejzq ) I could never understand why
people chose to train and race when the weather is the worst, and the
daylight is of short supply. Yes, in order to be successful at
something, you have to put a lot of time and energy into it, and that
isn't always pleasant. Starting to train in those cold/wet months is
the correct time to do it, in order to be on peak form for those early
races. But, if the races were later, you could apply that same exact
training plan to a slightly later time frame and, more than likely,
find more pleasure in doing it! It really IS miserable to try to put
your long easy base miles in when it's dark and raining after work or
on the trainer. Not if you live in Southern California, but in Oregon,
yes.

You don't have to stop racing mid summer to prepare for cyclocross.
Maybe a couple light weeks as a break is nice. It doesn't require that
much more specific training than necessary for other types of racing.
Only some running, and shorter but harder workouts to mimic the nature
of those sub-1 hour events. But, even still, if you start too early
for CX, you'll end up w/ TOO MUCH intensity in your legs and become
frazzled and burnt before CX season is over.

Now that CX has become so popular, more and more racers are needing a
break from the intensity of racing for 10-14 weekends straight,
sometimes twice a wknd. It seems to me now that it makes even MORE
sense to delay the start of spring/summer events. Especially as they
start to consider extending CX into January. !?!? If not, will those
early season promoters start to see diminished participation?

Maybe a delay isn't the sole solution either. Maybe it is simply a
matter of having no more than 2-3 weeks in a row, before a week or two
off. Seems to me that would keep folks fresher and eager to race, yet
also encourage continued recreational riding on the "free weekends"…
ideally group rides that include newer/younger racers to learn the
ropes, build friendships, and gain experience before jumping into an
"epic muddy death march" out in the middle of nowhere. As an elite
racer with a full time job, it is difficult to make the time to
include new folks when I'm racing EVERY weekend!

Looking forward to racing the MTB this year. Thanks again to all the
promoters that make this happen, regardless of when you hold your
race. Without you, we'd still be a bunch of complainers, only w/ fewer
races to attend.

Chris Brandt