Tony Pereira

I use the vacuum/thread trick and it works great.

-Tony

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Trispoke@aol.com wrote:
> I've heard good things about this technique:
> Tape a piece of string around the end of the cable, insert cable into
> tube, turn vacuum cleaner (hand piece) on and put against the cable
> exit and slowly withdraw. As thread appears, pull gently to bring it
> and the cable through.
> -Ian
>
> In a message dated 3/6/08 3:49:04 PM, lmcconn1@uoregon.edu writes:
>
>> Use an old cable to form a loop, which you will insert into the hole
>> from the outside. Use that loop to catch the cable you are running
>> through the tube and pull it through the hole.
>>
>> -Luke
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Joel Morrissette wrote:
>>
>>
>> Two ideas:
>> Grab a rare-earth magnet, hold over the hole (pad the frame with a
>> piece of paper or cloth so you don't crack the finish if it's a
>> ferrous frame), and the end of the cable should find its way right out.
>>
>> -Joel
>>
>>
>>
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Don Whitehead

Some great ideas here. I'm ready to tackle my Kleins now.

2008/3/7 Jay Rideout :

> Just tried the loop... it's the best one yet!!! thanx
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Luke McConnell
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 3:48:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Internally routed brake cables?
>
> Use an old cable to form a loop, which you will insert into the hole from
> the outside. Use that loop to catch the cable you are running through the
> tube and pull it through the hole.
> -Luke
>
> On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Joel Morrissette wrote:
>
> Two ideas:
> Grab a rare-earth magnet, hold over the hole (pad the frame with a piece
> of paper or cloth so you don't crack the finish if it's a ferrous frame),
> and the end of the cable should find its way right out.
>
> -Joel
>
> 2008/3/6 :
>
> > What kind of bike is it? On my Cervelo there is a cable stop that pops
> > out giving you a slightly larger opening to fish it out of. If the opening
> > is large enough, you can push a loop of wire in, feed the cable through it
> > and pull it out (the needle threader method). On another frame I was able to
> > remove the seatpost, and use my finger in the top tube to guide the cable
> > through the hole.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: spencer
> >
> > > i am building a tt rig, and it has internally routed cables. I cannot
> > figure
> > > out for the life of me how to coax that tiny guy back out into the
> > light. This
> > > is a huge pain in the ass.
> > > Any ideas before i shoot myself?
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Jay Rideout

Just tried the loop... it's the best one yet!!! thanx

----- Original Message ----
From: Luke McConnell
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Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 3:48:22 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Internally routed brake cables?

Use an old cable to form a loop, which you will insert into the hole from the outside. Use that loop to catch the cable you are running through the tube and pull it through the hole.

-Luke

On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Joel Morrissette wrote:

Two ideas:
Grab a rare-earth magnet, hold over the hole (pad the frame with a piece of paper or cloth so you don't crack the finish if it's a ferrous frame), and the end of the cable should find its way right out.

-Joel

2008/3/6 :

What kind of bike is it? On my Cervelo there is a cable stop that pops out giving you a slightly larger opening to fish it out of. If the opening is large enough, you can push a loop of wire in, feed the cable through it and pull it out (the needle threader method). On another frame I was able to remove the seatpost, and use my finger in the top tube to guide the cable through the hole.

Good luck!

-------------- Original message --------------
From: spencer

> i am building a tt rig, and it has internally routed cables. I cannot figure
> out for the life of me how to coax that tiny guy back out into the light. This
> is a huge pain in the ass.
> Any ideas before i shoot myself?
> thanks
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I've heard good things about this technique:
Tape a piece of string around the end of the cable, insert cable into tube,
turn vacuum cleaner (hand piece) on and put against the cable exit and slowly
withdraw. As thread appears, pull gently to bring it and the cable through.
-Ian

In a message dated 3/6/08 3:49:04 PM, lmcconn1@uoregon.edu writes:

> Use an old cable to form a loop, which you will insert into the hole from
> the outside.  Use that loop to catch the cable you are running through the
> tube and pull it through the hole.
>
> -Luke
>
> On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Joel Morrissette wrote:
>
>
> Two ideas:
> Grab a rare-earth magnet, hold over the hole (pad the frame with a piece of
> paper or cloth so you don't crack the finish if it's a ferrous frame), and
> the end of the cable should find its way right out.
>
> -Joel
>
>
>
>

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I painted my TT disc to look like a spoked wheel because it makes me chuckle when the birds and squirrels smash into it. I think that's what people mean by "that cool disc wheel sound."

Craig

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Sent: Thu 3/6/2008 4:29 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Internally routed brake cables?

a woodpecker finch? I think I just had one of those fly through my front tri-spoke unscathed!

Ginsberg

Ryan Storfa wrote:

I had to deal with that quite a bit with Klein frames a while back. You know those straws you get with a slushy that have the little spoon on the end (http://www.strawland.net/images/product4.jpg)? Stick one of those in the frame exit opening angled toward the cable and then poke around a bit with the cable. All you've got to do is hit the "spoon" part of the straw and the cable should ride right up the straw and out the frame.

The frame opening is probably a little too small for the straw (I'm assuming it's just big enough for cable housing?). If that's the case you might have to take an exacto knife and put a lengthwise slit in the straw so you can roll it on itself and make it smaller.

If that doesn't work, maybe a Woodpecker Finch can help you out....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodpecker_Finch


> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:31:44 -0800
> From: skisattva@yahoo.com
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Internally routed brake cables?
>
> i am building a tt rig, and it has internally routed cables. I cannot figure out for the life of me how to coax that tiny guy back out into the light. This is a huge pain in the ass.
> Any ideas before i shoot myself?
> thanks
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a woodpecker finch? I think I just had one of those fly through my front tri-spoke unscathed!

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Ryan Storfa wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } I had to deal with that quite a bit with Klein frames a while back. You know those straws you get with a slushy that have the little spoon on the end (http://www.strawland.net/images/product4.jpg)? Stick one of those in the frame exit opening angled toward the cable and then poke around a bit with the cable. All you've got to do is hit the "spoon" part of the straw and the cable should ride right up the straw and out the frame.

The frame opening is probably a little too small for the straw (I'm assuming it's just big enough for cable housing?). If that's the case you might have to take an exacto knife and put a lengthwise slit in the straw so you can roll it on itself and make it smaller.

If that doesn't work, maybe a Woodpecker Finch can help you out....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodpecker_Finch

> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:31:44 -0800
> From: skisattva@yahoo.com
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Internally routed brake cables?
>
> i am building a tt rig, and it has internally routed cables. I cannot figure out for the life of me how to coax that tiny guy back out into the light. This is a huge pain in the ass.
> Any ideas before i shoot myself?
> thanks
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Use an old cable to form a loop, which you will insert into the hole
from the outside. Use that loop to catch the cable you are running
through the tube and pull it through the hole.

-Luke

On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Joel Morrissette wrote:

> Two ideas:
> Grab a rare-earth magnet, hold over the hole (pad the frame with a
> piece of paper or cloth so you don't crack the finish if it's a
> ferrous frame), and the end of the cable should find its way right
> out.
>
> -Joel
>
> 2008/3/6 :
> What kind of bike is it? On my Cervelo there is a cable stop that
> pops out giving you a slightly larger opening to fish it out of. If
> the opening is large enough, you can push a loop of wire in, feed
> the cable through it and pull it out (the needle threader method).
> On another frame I was able to remove the seatpost, and use my
> finger in the top tube to guide the cable through the hole.
>
> Good luck!
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: spencer
>
> > i am building a tt rig, and it has internally routed cables. I
> cannot figure
> > out for the life of me how to coax that tiny guy back out into
> the light. This
> > is a huge pain in the ass.
> > Any ideas before i shoot myself?
> > thanks
> > _______________________________________________
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Ryan Storfa

I had to deal with that quite a bit with Klein frames a while back. You know those straws you get with a slushy that have the little spoon on the end (http://www.strawland.net/images/product4.jpg)? Stick one of those in the frame exit opening angled toward the cable and then poke around a bit with the cable. All you've got to do is hit the "spoon" part of the straw and the cable should ride right up the straw and out the frame.

The frame opening is probably a little too small for the straw (I'm assuming it's just big enough for cable housing?). If that's the case you might have to take an exacto knife and put a lengthwise slit in the straw so you can roll it on itself and make it smaller.

If that doesn't work, maybe a Woodpecker Finch can help you out....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodpecker_Finch
> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:31:44 -0800> From: skisattva@yahoo.com> To: obra@list.obra.org> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Internally routed brake cables?> > i am building a tt rig, and it has internally routed cables. I cannot figure out for the life of me how to coax that tiny guy back out into the light. This is a huge pain in the ass. > Any ideas before i shoot myself?> thanks> _______________________________________________> OBRA mailing list> obra@list.obra.org> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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Two ideas:
Grab a rare-earth magnet, hold over the hole (pad the frame with a piece of
paper or cloth so you don't crack the finish if it's a ferrous frame), and
the end of the cable should find its way right out.

-Joel

2008/3/6 :

> What kind of bike is it? On my Cervelo there is a cable stop that pops out
> giving you a slightly larger opening to fish it out of. If the opening is
> large enough, you can push a loop of wire in, feed the cable through it and
> pull it out (the needle threader method). On another frame I was able to
> remove the seatpost, and use my finger in the top tube to guide the cable
> through the hole.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: spencer
>
> > i am building a tt rig, and it has internally routed cables. I cannot
> figure
> > out for the life of me how to coax that tiny guy back out into the
> light. This
> > is a huge pain in the ass.
> > Any ideas before i shoot myself?
> > thanks
> > _______________________________________________
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palm615@comcast.net

What kind of bike is it? On my Cervelo there is a cable stop that pops out giving you a slightly larger opening to fish it out of. If the opening is large enough, you can push a loop of wire in, feed the cable through it and pull it out (the needle threader method). On another frame I was able to remove the seatpost, and use my finger in the top tube to guide the cable through the hole.

Good luck!

-------------- Original message --------------
From: spencer

> i am building a tt rig, and it has internally routed cables. I cannot figure
> out for the life of me how to coax that tiny guy back out into the light. This
> is a huge pain in the ass.
> Any ideas before i shoot myself?
> thanks
> _______________________________________________
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spencer

i am building a tt rig, and it has internally routed cables. I cannot figure out for the life of me how to coax that tiny guy back out into the light. This is a huge pain in the ass.
Any ideas before i shoot myself?
thanks