what starting Cat for ex-racers?

T. Kenji Sugahara

2008-04-30

A copy of your old USAC, FIAC or OBRA license will suffice. USAC also
maintains records that you can ask them for.

If you don't have either, a race resume.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

On Apr 30, 2008, at 6:14 PM, Vicki Schroeder wrote:

> Kenji
>
> I assume you can't simply just fill out the Cat of your choice when
> you
> apply for your OBRA license so what evidence must you provide if you
> want to return to, say, Cat 3? And what if it was in another state and
> many years ago?
>
> Vicki
>
> T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
>> You may elect to downgrade. However, if you do you have to earn your
>> upgrades to get back up.
>>
>> "A rider who wishes to downgrade may request a downgrade. Such
>> requests will be evaluated individually. In no case will a rider be
>> allowed to downgrade to category 5."
>>
>> Thus, men can only downgrade to Cat 4. Women can downgrade to Cat 4.
>>
>> Cat 1's must maintain their Cat 1 status year to year.
>>
>> Anything below you can return to the category you last raced in.
>>
>> T. Kenji Sugahara
>> Executive Director
>> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
>> 503-302-4935
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Vicki Schroeder wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> OK so this whole sandbagging debate has raised a question: Someone
>>> raced
>>> for several years (say at Cat 3 level) but has not raced in a few
>>> years - what category should they begin racing in?
>>>
>>> As far as I have understood it they must start over again at Cat 5
>>> (Cat
>>> 4 for women, bottom Cat for Masters) in which case an experienced
>>> racer
>>> is bound to be accused of sandbagging. Is this the case? Or can you
>>> elect to start in a higher Cat? If so what evidence would you need
>>> to
>>> prove your case?
>>>
>>> What is the protocol here?
>>> Vicki
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>
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Vicki Schroeder

2008-04-30

Kenji

I assume you can't simply just fill out the Cat of your choice when you
apply for your OBRA license so what evidence must you provide if you
want to return to, say, Cat 3? And what if it was in another state and
many years ago?

Vicki

T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
> You may elect to downgrade. However, if you do you have to earn your
> upgrades to get back up.
>
> "A rider who wishes to downgrade may request a downgrade. Such
> requests will be evaluated individually. In no case will a rider be
> allowed to downgrade to category 5."
>
> Thus, men can only downgrade to Cat 4. Women can downgrade to Cat 4.
>
> Cat 1's must maintain their Cat 1 status year to year.
>
> Anything below you can return to the category you last raced in.
>
> T. Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> 503-302-4935
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Vicki Schroeder wrote:
>
>>
>> OK so this whole sandbagging debate has raised a question: Someone raced
>> for several years (say at Cat 3 level) but has not raced in a few
>> years - what category should they begin racing in?
>>
>> As far as I have understood it they must start over again at Cat 5 (Cat
>> 4 for women, bottom Cat for Masters) in which case an experienced racer
>> is bound to be accused of sandbagging. Is this the case? Or can you
>> elect to start in a higher Cat? If so what evidence would you need to
>> prove your case?
>>
>> What is the protocol here?
>> Vicki
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
>> obra@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>

T. Kenji Sugahara

2008-04-30

You may elect to downgrade. However, if you do you have to earn your
upgrades to get back up.

"A rider who wishes to downgrade may request a downgrade. Such
requests will be evaluated individually. In no case will a rider be
allowed to downgrade to category 5."

Thus, men can only downgrade to Cat 4. Women can downgrade to Cat 4.

Cat 1's must maintain their Cat 1 status year to year.

Anything below you can return to the category you last raced in.

T. Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
503-302-4935

On Apr 30, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Vicki Schroeder wrote:

>
> OK so this whole sandbagging debate has raised a question: Someone
> raced
> for several years (say at Cat 3 level) but has not raced in a few
> years - what category should they begin racing in?
>
> As far as I have understood it they must start over again at Cat 5
> (Cat
> 4 for women, bottom Cat for Masters) in which case an experienced
> racer
> is bound to be accused of sandbagging. Is this the case? Or can you
> elect to start in a higher Cat? If so what evidence would you need to
> prove your case?
>
> What is the protocol here?
> Vicki
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org

Vicki Schroeder

2008-04-30

OK so this whole sandbagging debate has raised a question: Someone raced
for several years (say at Cat 3 level) but has not raced in a few
years - what category should they begin racing in?

As far as I have understood it they must start over again at Cat 5 (Cat
4 for women, bottom Cat for Masters) in which case an experienced racer
is bound to be accused of sandbagging. Is this the case? Or can you
elect to start in a higher Cat? If so what evidence would you need to
prove your case?

What is the protocol here?
Vicki

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