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As much as I sympathize with cyclists, being one, as a driver of an automobile, I constantly am amazed at how many stupid cyclists I see out there. Last night in NW Portland, as I was driving home as it was geting dark, a woman on a cruiser bike ran the stop sign and cut right accross me. Had I been going any faster, she would have been a hood ornament. Of course, no helmet or light and wearing all black. Also, as I was riding my bicycle to PIR, it seemed many of the cyclists on NE Williams also were running red lights while all the drivers were sitting there waiting. That said, it looked like most of there were not of the bike racing persuasion, and I doubt many of them read these posts. I am not saying that we are above the occasional infraction, but it does seem that much of the issue involves cyclists who may not intersect with OBRA to any great degree. How you get the message to them remains a problem. The few times I suggested they wait at the light as I was doing
to avo
id annoying the drivers all around us, their response indicated that theor behavior will not be easy to change absent some law enforecment. The fact is that jerky behavior is to reserved for the four wheel petrol crowd.
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George Schreck
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From: G Magnus
I don't know if its the good weather again, or if motorists are just angry because they are stuck in their cars or what. I was working a safety fair last week and had several people come up and ask me when we (I'm a police officer) are going to start writing cyclists tickets. The first person that said this to me I figured was just a grumpy motorist who had a bad experience or something...but after hearing from several people throughout the day it was starting to bother me. I always asked them what they saw or were concerned about...the major complaint was cyclists cutting across roads riding the wrong way to avoid traffic lights and or just running lights or stop signs....If you ride around Murray Blvd and Jenkins in Beaverton this was a major bitch by folks...well I know that couldn't be any of my spandex clad friends as we all stop at lights/signs to practice our track stands and then work on our jumps when the light turns green....right?!?!?!? So I asked them of all t
he cyc
lists they saw committing infractions how many motorists did they see do the same....Always it was more motorists...So I follow that up with the number of cyclists versus motorists on the road would you agree that percentage wise the infractions observed are roughly the same in relation to the numbers on the roadway....the answer in generally a slow yeah.
That being said....cars see us when we do something illegal like running a light or riding the wrong way....for some reason if we cyclists do something wrong we are all a bunch of non tax paying, traffic law breaking hoodlums whose sole purpose is to wreak havoc on the streets....of course the 10 other motorist that also commit an infraction aren't an issue just the bikes....my thoughts on this be safe out there some of people are just plain a**holes and it doesn't matter who is on the bike.
~Gregg
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:20:15 -0700
From: rickemartin@gmail.com
To: cobrakai43@gmail.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] bullsh&t
first of all "cobra" it'sd not a frickin strip club,second of all i'll eat whatever the ef i want when i want!
try again.........silver dollar is across the sauce box on broadway next to outdoor store.......get a map sensei!
On 5/19/08, Cobra Kai wrote:
Cobra Kai also had experience with angry pickup driver this weekend. Cobra Kai and friend were racing for yellow sign at 15mph only to be buzzed by hillbilly. Cobra Kai practiced great karate patience and made no moves of anger. At stop sign Cobra Kai saw hand extend out of cab with middle finger raised. What did Cobra Kai do to deserve this treatment? Cobra Kai loves his spandex but knows that hillbilly did not enjoy the sight of Kai's finely toned calves and clean shaven legs. Cobra Kai urges other members of OBRA community to get "Share the Road" license plates and perhaps make a petition to change the drivers test to include more safety features for bicyclists.
Cobra Kai also wonders when Silver Dollar nightclub started serving sandwiches?? Cobra Kai also wonders why someone would meet their wife at a strip club for drinks? Cobra Kai finds THAT situation hilarious.
No one touches the prima donna until the tournament. Is that understood? YES, SENSEI.
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